rudy giuliani was so excited for this moment. bill and i were about to go on live tv and saucer calls for the viewer's choice award. was the biggest award of the night. bill and i were going to resent that later on. as we were standing there, roseanne, the host started making fun of me and she called me out of the republican and said she'd seen me backstage doing something with an mouth to rush limbaugh and i've never met rush limbaugh. the crowd started booing and it freaked me out. so when bill and the mayor and i came on, they were booing loudly. i thought to myself, i have to get them back to i'm standing here with the mayor. so i did that thing with my mouth on the microphone but she said i did with rush limbaugh and the crowd started laughing. i said this is great, this is fantastic. but what didn't occur to my brain and my 15 seconds of impulsivity is this could have severe ramifications not only for me and my job and mtv and their relationship with new york city. said judy mcgrath, president of mtv network, the owner viac

then rudy giuliani took over and new policing strategy was put in place under police commissioner bill bratton. essentially the cops flooded the high crime zones, arresting known thugs for just about anything. the plan worked. last year there were just 419 murders in new york. a city of more than 8 million people. one of the tactics police used to discourage thugs from carrying illegal guns is stop and frisk. whereby officers search people they believe may be loitering or look suspicious. most of those frisks are minorities. and that is causing deep anger. >> you can't give people authority where there civilian or police officer the right to just stop somebody because of the color of their skin. >> bill: that was trayvon martin's mother. a federal judge agrees with her. ruling that the nypd must modify its stop and frisk program. liberals are overjoyed but not so fast. the unintended consequence of a slowdown in stop and frisk could be death the

different fertility clinics the last for two fertility clinic we went to they made it mandatory that giuliani get a mammogram all their patients and she was thirty six years old that i'm you know well below the age of supposed to get a mammogram and that was when they detected the breast cancer so in hindsight this little baby saved her life and the baby is no and. yes i mean i know he is he is and that was something we obviously discussed at length but what it is larry is that you know for so many seasons people have been watching our show through infertility through breast cancer and they've been praying for us they support us they tweet us you know one thousand times a day they e-mail us they facebook us you know and we get so much support from people that if to say now you know what you can see our baby and put a blanket over his head and not introduce him to this and you see what i mean and you know a lot of people do that i just put them in the babies and yeah hundred percent meaning anything just what it means meaning just what it means you know a lot of people when i throw the life ra

in a way, rudy giuliani is no holds barred.giuliani, what he did for the city of new york, he cleaned it up. he didn't care who he ticked off, he did the right thing. this is like a chris christie. i think nationally you're going to see chris christie is going to appeal to a lot more people, especially people we need votes from, which is the moderates. neil, the republicans and democrats, they're not going to decide the vote in the 2016 election. it is going to be the moderates, independents. >> the conservatives first within the party, and they are still angry about how he handled his relationship with president obama during hurricane sandy, and even angrier about how he goes back and forth with the likes of rand paul and libertarians that have a different view on privacy, surveillance, that kind of thing. is this going to be a civil war? >> no, i don't think so. it depends who enters into the 2016 presidential primary. >> they all are, at this point, it is everybody. >> right, yeah, but look at who some of the fundraising, li

we've had 12 years of leadership under giuliani and bloomberg. running for the first term of loda. >> let me ask you this, what's a major policy difference you have with bloomberg? >> one of the major differences i have is in the health area. i believe in many of the things that mike's done but i actually believe we should be educating the public before we ban things. the soda ban for example. while it may seem small, to hme the role of government is not to tell you what to do or not to do but educate you on what's the best thing to do. >> where are you on stop and frisk? >> i am the son of a new york city cop, the brother of a new york city cop. i believe stop, question and frisk is a tool that was given to police officers all around the united states by the supreme court in 1968. when properly used, it can proactively be used to reduce crime. i am a firm believer in continuing the use of stop, question and frisk. we need to educate the public more about what's allowed. we also need to make sure our police officers are trained and retrained as t

current president rudy giuliani? (laughter) you remember the formidable contender in the 2008 election who won in the primaries only one more delegate than i did. (laughter) but look, let's be fair. that was a whole presidential election ago. everyone is allowed a mulligan and matthews made up for that by completely nailing his prediction for who would win the republican primaries in 2012. >> you watch bachmann. she's got the action this time. she stands for something -- she's going all the way. she's going to win this thing. >> really? >> i tell you right now. i predict she beats trump. >> john: it's what he does for a living. (laughter) is he a psychic or a time traveler? either way, we must burn him as a witch. chris matthews doesn't just routinely have egg on his face, he has a chicken cop ago squat over his face, laying an egg between his eyes, (bleep)ing on that egg, punting the egg and then rubbing it all over his face. (applause) look, america, america, look at me. our elections do not need to take as long as

current president rudy giuliani?er) you remember the formidable contender in the 2008 election who won in the primaries only one more delegate than i did. (laughter) but look, let's be fair. that was a whole presidential election ago. everyone is allowed a mulligan and matthews made up for that by completely nailing his prediction for who would win the republican primaries in 2012. >> you watch bachmann. she's got the action this time. she stands for something -- she's going all the way. she's going to win this thing. >> really? >> i tell you right now. i predict

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new york candidate for mayor joe lota saved as deputy mayor under rudy giuliani. back to the program. up got no contracts, over 300,000 municipal workers and virtually all of them on health benefits pay nothing out of pocket, nothing out of pocket. that's the worst i've ever heard. >> all 153 collective bargaining units are without a contract. what i'll do, the day after i'm elected, i'll sit down with the unions and begin the negotiations. i did it in the giuliani administration, i'll do it now as mayor and make sure we have fair wages going forward. all the unions want retroactive pay. that's not going to happen when i'm mayor. >> what about the cadillac tax? can you use that as a club? they're going to get hit by it, 2018. >> you could use it as a club. the health care cost, everybody should pay for their health care. it really should be part of the package that goes in. >> a lot of other cities, the co-pays are like 20%, 20%. new york is about zero. >> it's about zero. those who do pay, they pay about 1%. we need to make it the number one issue on the table th

also want to thank my friends and i want to say if it wasn't for tom at the foundation and stan and giuliani our with work i want to thank my husband the artist. there were folks traveling around the country we we've done this. the reason we do the work we do in art i preserve memories and history and you pass down the love of your grandparents to your children and your children's children and it's this love that makes the people strong and when we're strong in love we can all make a better place. in the the reason why all the arts do the work we do thank you for honoring not just me but art. thank you (clapping) >> congratulations briand next is the community award - okay. i, do this. which have achieved through the performing arts and providing opportunities to artists that have successfully helped with the mainstream to perform outside their own ethics communities. please welcome lisa stevens >> thank you i'm very honored to be here. we have probably more asian american students than any other art university in the united states were when people say wow, you have so many asian students th

. >> join meganow is the former new york city mayor rudy giuliani.t a unique perspective on some of the big issues we've been talking about, not only the scandal surrounding anthony weiner but the split on foreign policy in the gop, of course the new york yankees and a-rod, which we'll get to in just a moment. mr. mayor, welcome. >> glad to talk to you as always. >> let me start on what's -- this discussion, what makes politicians think they can keep working through this in public life. you've had to face personal questions about your own life when you were mayor of new york city. how do you think this is reflecting on the city, if at all? >> oh, i guess it creates a lot of interest in the race. hopefully at some point that's going to focus on real issues. i think maybe some of this, when i'm listening to it, we have too little confidence in the e electorate. they get all these issues. they get to evaluate it. in the sanford race in south carolina, everybody knew what happened with sanford. they knew all the details about it. turned out to be a much

most people, this is true when you ask, most say rudy giuliani. that's actually, in my opinion, here, not right. rudy giuliani is significantly more of a centrist, liberal, however you want to describe him, than chris christie. he's from the northeast a tough talking guy with a prosecutor background. both giuliani and christie, former u.s. attorney. it's a fascinating case. he is in the northeast, tough and more conservative i think than many think she. -- he is. the thing that will keep limb in the top tier all wait through, he knows thousand ta s how to average people. we saw it with mitt romney. he just could not communicate with people. couldn't empathize. chris christie innately understands how to do that. >> you think christie is the person that's going to be running? do you think he's got the best chance out there, chris, and weigh in on this as well. >> quickly, kathleen. my top tier at the moment, people say it's too early. look who's going to iowa and new hampshire. it's never too early. christie in the top tier. rand paul in the top tie

different fertility clinics the last for two fertility clinic we went to they made it mandatory that giuliani get a mammogram all their patients and she was thirty six years old that i'm you know well below the age are supposed to get a mammogram and that was when they detected the breast cancer so in hindsight this little baby saved her life and the baby. yes i mean i know it is he is and that was something we obviously discussed at length but what it is larry is that you know for so many seasons people have been watching our show through infertility through breast cancer and they've been praying for us they support us they tweet us you know one thousand times a day they e-mail us they facebook us you know and we get so much support from people that if to say now you know what you can see our baby and put a blanket over his head and not introduce him to that if you see what i mean and you know a lot of people do that i just put them in the babies and yeah hundred percent meaning anything just what it means meaning just what it means you know a lot of people when i throw the life raft to him.

non-oil and the colombo squad in to he taught at quantico in the case agent that propelled rudy giuliani. so you get an idea just how powerful defect year was a year and he was his contact scarpa had a complicated life as his informant but his personal white the first wife is still alive a great shot of senior a and junior he buried, deforested had four children he started to be crimes a 16 and seniors shipped him off you will hear how much money he made he could produce a thoroughbred horses so he shipped them up there and visited them on weekends. then he got a incredibly gorgeous woman named linda diana she had been dating the mob guys since she was 50 in he had to kids by her bet she married a guy so that the kids would feel legitimate with the guy did not know they were not his kids so she would leave in the morning and visit gregory scarpa but then he divorced her it was not very aggressive considering either she was hanging out with. [laughter] but while he was doing, law with linda and commuting to new jersey with his wife thought he would go to las vegas to bury former miss isra

rudy giuliani cleaned up times square and the crime went down.nomy was better and crime went down. which -- is it the dog chasing the tail? >> it goes hand in hand. if you have a bad economy people aren't employed and therefore they are busy doing other thgs than working. if you have a good -- i think you have to bolster areas so people can come in and work. if you don't clean up the areas even in a good economy people won't want to be there. the bottom line in this case, we are talking about teenagers here, not talk about adults. this is teenagers under the age of 18. this starts at home. you can revach areas in new york city all that you want to. you can have the leaders from the civil rights era come in and talk to the young people. if you don't have parents at home, one of the young men charged with the murder in this case, his mother is in prison. >> for murder. >> da for duncan county said they are raising themselves. >> juan, the reverend al sharpton of the world, the jess key jackson take victory laps when it's going well in the economy.

in the new york city of 1993, that was just enough to get giuliani the votes he needed.the new york city of 1993 any more. a much more progressive and united city. >> also a city where the crime rate dropped dramatically from 1993 and in that time i read, my reading of the results from 1993 on has been that people had complicated feelings about giuliani and complicated feelings of bloomberg but overall they say the city is a lot safer and better to live in than 20 years ago. we talk about this question of stop and frisk. i recognize that in the democratic primary, if you poll this question, very unpopular in your position and very popular. a "new york times" poll that came out and asked about stop and frisk among general election voters. 50% to 47% favor, i look at you and look at your message on this and talk about you represent a clean break from bloomberg and i wonder if those same voters who have been so happy with the decline in crime and continue to elect nondemocrats for 20 years in a general election will look at that and say, i don't want to turn the city back t

he's too old for the waiting list, since giuliani left it's gotten tougher to harvest hobo organs.o it's up to me, and i don't want to be a match. it's too much. does that make me a bad person? >> of course not. >> this is really hard. i need your help. >> ♪ the brain helps you make decisions ♪ >> okay. >> ♪ and your colon pushes out-- ♪ >> okay, that's not helpful. >> sorry. [exciting jazz music] ♪

they were supportive and giuliani at least on paper was supported and then what happened is burlingame's group.hillary clinton and everyone is -- so politics is a big part of this. they convince her in a rather happenstance effort to say -- they write a press release and they publicize that hillary clinton is against end giuliani becomes against it. so i think your were right in some sense. as soon as it becomes a controversy that politically is not sustainable is gone. you do have to look at something like the debate over the islamic center which is another major controversy at ground zero that was following the same footsteps. you had people getting really emotional and lots of protests on the streets. the op-ed pages and the blogs. it stayed and certain politicians said it should be moved but others called for it called for it to stay one of whom is mayor bloomberg who said this would be a mistake. so they kind of rode out the controversy. >> host: let's take another example of that battle that falls within your overall battle for ground zero. we are talking with set to the author of

than any of the other democrats and i'm terrified of what will happen when the crime policies of giulianit bloomberg has ended by any of those democrats. he is not as crazy as they are. >> can you say anything remotely interesting that applies to the topic? >> yes, i played in a charity softball became with alec baldwin and he hit the ball and i caught it and he was out. >> you know what? no, that does not qualify. andy? >> the name will have to be called 7 second delay with alec baldwin. can you not let him go live. >> 7 second delay is a great name. >> why give that stuff up, we should rename red eye. >> i give stuff to the world. >> i want to point out an example, great character actor, charles grodin, i loved every show he was in. and he got a show and he turned into a bitter crank. he was so good on letterman -- >> you are right. >> and he did that tv show and he believed that that is what he was suited and he never got back. >> that's a great point. you are right. >> i'm full of great points. i'm going to a derma the ampde >> alec baldwin thinks he is better at politics than being a

and former new york city mayor giuliani will host a fund-raiser for the governor later this month. >>> more controversy surrounding edward snowden's nsa leaks. late yesterday, the partner of glenn greenwaddle, the guardian reporter who broke the snowden story. his partner was detained for nine hours at heathrow. they detained him under antiterrorism legislation. hold and question people for possible ties for terrorism. greenwald expressed his outrage -- it's a total abuse of the law. this is only a serious, radical escalation of what they are doing. he's my partner, he's not even a journalist. >> a spokesman for the british foreign ministry said that the episode was quote a police matter and would not provide any further comment. >>> the recall effort against san diego mayor bob filner has become in earnest. filner has been accused by at least 16 women by unwanted sexual advances. now trying to get him out of office has a month to get 197,000 signatures. they took events across the city to get out the message. despite his admitting his behavior was quote wrong early on he has resisted

. >> at one time, we were talking about hillary clinton and rudy giuliani. it never really worked out. find thepossible to republican in town that is downright morose about the result in 2013. and you to start winning the votes back. your reaction? >> i am not morose, i am rather serene. all of this gnashing of teeth, enough. a one-year autopsy is enough. i think the prospects in the midterm elections are excellent. the democrats are scared to death about the implementation of obamacare and how that will hurt them. 2016, who has any idea what it will look like? hillary clinton was inevitable in 2008 as well, wasn't she? >> what if they shut down the government? >> republican will have a big problem. they have a real difficult problem ahead of them. what will they do with this question? they cannot come together on issues that are important to them, like immigration. --is important, successively substantively for the country, but also for their party. >> you do not have to be following the news daily to figure this out. it is not good for the party, they are

giuliani on paper was supportive. then what happens is the group gets to hillary clinton and this is, you know, everyone is planning on running for president. all of this group. it's very politics is a big part of this. they convince her and rather happenstance effort to say she's against the museum. they write a press release that hillary clinton is again it. giuliani becomes against it. it's like boom, boom, boom. i think you right in some sense. as soon as it being -- becomes a controversy. you have to look at something like the debate over the islamic center which is another major controversy at ground zero which was following the same footstep. you had people getting really emotional. lot of protest on the street. ht result. >> guest: it stays and certain politicians said it should be moved. overs call for it to stay. one was mayor bloomberg who said it would be a mistake. and they road out the controversy. >> host: let's talk another example of a battle that falls within your overall battle for ground zero, we'r

those are not qualifications of ed koch or rudy giuliani. the only mayor in recent memory married through his term. >> you asked about huma and her role in the campaign. take a look. >> is huma still working on the campaign. >> he's helping out every day. >> is -- do you know what her role in hillary's 2016 role is going to be? >> i do. >> what will it be? >> i'm not telling you. >> do you feel like you've damaged her place in that world? >> i feel that what i have done has hurt her, yeah. it's hurt her professionally, it's hurt her personally. you know, we made a decision that these things werep behind us and we made a calculated gamble on the question of whether or not citizens would be more interested in their family's future than in my personal failings that are behind me and she's gotten roughed up and it's been completely unfair in my view. >> weiner also spoke about "the new york times" editorial board, calling on him to drop out of the race. >> "the new york times," wait for it, doesn't want me to win. >> why do you think that is? >>

but yeah, he doesn't come across in person the same way obviously giuliani did.han giuliani in the ways. >> yeah, i think that a lot of his -- he actually hired a very capable group of commissioners. and he more or less led them think on their own two feet. bloomberg didn't say build 200 miles bike lanes. the commissioner came in and did that. that's changed the streets. bloomberg didn't say necessarily i want to ban smoking in every restaurant and bar in new york city. when his health commissioner came to him and said, let's do this, bloomberg was on board with it. >> and about the impossible mayor of the possible. mayors rarely leave office in new york on affectionate terms. in the case of mr. bloomberg, a relationship that was always fraught and frayed. yet as he enters the final months, the full arc of his era is coming into view. mayors are forced to play the hands dealt them by history, the economy, the public, their allies, campaign contributors. as much as any mayor of modern new york, mr. bloomberg has been a transformative figure, a shaper, of his time.

under giuliani, we saw about 80,000 per year, stop and frisks, this racial profiling program.der bloomberg, in 2011, we have about 680,000, 90% innocent, 90% people of color, and get this, 99.9% don't have a gun. about 700 guns seized. >> the wider point, sybrina fulton, i welcome you to the program. just your reaction as a mother who's lost her son so tragically and as now someone who's trying to create something positive out of that searing loss by talking about stand your ground laws. you've heard the commissioner of new york say, look, what happened to trayvon martin, even though it was referenced in the judge's ruling, is quite different. that was civilian on civilian. this is about civilians interacting with the police department. do you see that distinction or not? >> i think it's all about laws, and i think you have to give not only civilians, but you have to give the police officers the right direction. you can't give people the authority, police officers the right to stop somebody because of the color of their skin. >> let me get benjamin crump in here as well. how d

katie pointed out, rudy giuliani came in here and cleaned up times square and the crime went down. katie, which is it? the dog chasing its tail. which one is the dog and which one is the tail? >> when you have a bad economy, people, obviously, aren't employed and therefore doing other things than working. i think you have to bolster areas so that people can come in and work. if you don't clean up in the areas, even in a good economy, people aren't going to want to be there. the bottom line in this case, since we're talking about teenagers here, we're not atalking about adults. teenagers under the age of 18. it starts at home. revamp areas of new york city all you want to and leaders from the civil rights era come in and talk to young people. but if you don't have parents at home, one of the young men charged with the murder in this case, the mother is in prison and the d.a. for duncan county said these kids are basically raising themselves. >> juan, just address -- let me get to juan. very quickly, the reverend al sharptons of the world, jesse jackson, they all take victory laps wh