so boris, what does giuliani have to say about that?y the most puzzling portion of the interview. giuliani sort of makes an accusation about senator romney suggesting that on one of his previous campaign, romney had asked someone perhaps to do something unethical. jake asked him to specify. giuliani wouldn't, sort of not really giving any evidence to support his claim. kind of a bizarre thing to say, but obviously senator romney, being a former presidential candidate had a lot to say about president trump during his campaign back in 2016. >> and because of his previous campaign, a lot of people are listening to what romney has to say. boris sanchez down in florida, thanks very much. so now that the mueller report sought, what's next for democrats? among the 2020 candidates, elizabeth warren and julian castro are the only ones right now calling for the president's impeachment. others like congressman tim ryan are taking a more cautious approach. so you do not support impeachment as of right now, but you want the process to begin? is that

giuliani here making a curious argument.lly saying that no one on the trump campaign did anything illegal. the president didn't know about anything unethical that may have happened though he acknowledged that certain actions were taken that may be deemed unethical, and yet he says he believes unethical things happen in haul political campaigns. on top of that, giuliani went after the former white house counsel don mcgahn. you'll recall in a portion of the mueller report mcgahn told reporters that president trump effectively told him to get rid of robert mueller as special counsel, the president citing certain conflicts of interest that the department of justice did not take seriously. mcgahn at that point threatened to resign. in this interview, giuliani effectively says that mcgwyn's recollection is wrong. he cites different rec leksz that mcgahn had. mcgahn cleared it up saying he stands by that recollection that he basically threatened to quit if -- if president trump wanted him to carry out that order to fire robert muel

it's a tortured analysis that giuliani engages in. don mcgahn was a white house counsel, understood exactly what the president wanted, further crop rated by the fact that donald trump did 80 other things that suggested he wanted bob mueller gone, suggested he wanted jeff sessions to change the focus of the investigation, even telling someone who is outside of the white house, c y corey lewandowski to jeff sessions saying change the focus of the investigation and get it off me. the evidence is overabundant that donald trump wanted bob mueller gone and he told mcgahn to take care of it. >> lastly, the question of whether president trump will be in legal jeopardy after his presidency is over, whether that's in 2021 or 2025. rudy giuliani suggested he's not worried at all, they got their shot and they missed. what do you think? is there exposure for president trump, legal exposure? mueller alluded to the fact that presidents are not immune from prosecution after the presidency is over. >> the mueller review, it seems to me, if you look at

dig into rudy giuliani's comments from over the weekend. the president's lawyer thinks taking information from russia during a campaign is not wrong. speaking of russia, last night, john oliver outlined some of the most ridiculous details in the mueller report, including michael cohen's struggle with email. >> from the very beginning, he was inept. he reached out to putin's spokesperson but couldn't get out. he actually emailed dot gof instead, which takes dwrou "game of thrones" where families fight for control of the seven sandbars. it starts in june. this network is [ bleep ]. june. this network is [ bleep ]. we need a solution. introducing... smartdogs. the first dogs trained to train humans. stopping drivers from: liking. selfie-ing. and whatever this is. available to the public... never. smartdogs are not the answer. but geico has a simple tip. turn on "do not disturb while driving" mode. brought to you by geico. when didwhen i needed ton? jumpstart sales. build attendance for an event. help people find their way. fastsigns designed n

so, you know, rudy giuliani in a shocking development is wrong again. mcghan didn't save the president from committing obstruction of justice. mcghan saved the president from completing the crime of obstruction of justice. but an endeavor is sufficient. so it's absolutely obstruction. frankly, the mueller report lays out a compelling case for obstruction. not just that instant, but many more. asking people to lie and directing firings and asking for the unrecusal of other officials. so it's adaming report. >> let me ask you something, i think the rest of us have a clear understanding of how don mcghan functioned inside the white house, but none of us understand how don mcghan functioned as essentially an informant for robert mueller. >> mcghan was cited many times in the report and spent as we know 30 hours with investiga investigators. i was thinking about this. the president historically used his lawyers to commit crimes, roy cohn, michael cohen, the president sees lawyers as a conduit to criminal conduct. maybe not surprising that he would turn to do

rudy giuliani is here. >>> plus the "i" word. as democratic leaders push for more information -- >> still want the mueller report in its entirety and we want other evidence, too. >> some already see a road map to impeachment. >> it's my responsibility to >> i'm my responsibility to speak out. >> how will other presidential contenders respond? 2020 candidate congressman tim ryan, in moments. hello. happy easter and happy passover. i'm jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is praying for sri lanka. we have a lot of politics to get to this morning, including an interview with president trump's attorney rudy giuliani, but i want to begin with horrific breaking news out of sri lanka, an island nation off the coast of india. hundreds of people are injured or dead this morning, after eight coordinated bombings across the country this easter sunday. explosions occurred at churches as worshippers attended easter mass. there were bombings at three hotels popular with foreign tourists and dozens of foreigners among the dead

so what's giuliani talking about? >> giuliani really needs to keep his mouth shut.onestly, you know, don mcgahn, i disagree with him on many issues but he's a very serious lawyer. i don't think anyone would seriously question the fact he took, as you point ourkt, he to contemporaneous notes. he told the fbi the truth of what happened. he stuck by that. his lawyer made that crystal clear. i don't know what giuliani is doing but, frankly, it's not helpful at all. and you know, the president needs to seek more advice from lawyers like don mcgahn than lawyers like rudy giuliani. >> guys, giuliani had talked about preparing rebuttal report to the mueller report. here's what giuliani had to say about that. >> we were ready to go if we thought that a lot of the issues were left open, too open. right now they seem to be okay. but we're ready to put it out when we have to. >> you'll not necessarily put it out? >> i think the odds are it will get out at some point. for example, you have testimony coming up. i know that the attorney general is going to testify. i know that mue

you heard rudy giuliani there. of the message and what he's doing and what do you understand of that? >> i think that the consistent strategy from trump and his team has been to throw every possible argument at the wall at the same time and hope that something sticks or hope to simply confuse everyone, and when challenged on any part of the argument go to another argument so giuliani saying there's nothing wrong with this. well, i wouldn't have done it. well, it's not about immorality, and so i think to a lot of people that this is confusing or unconvincing? but i think, of course, a lot of americans agree with him, that the investigation was centered upon the idea of a conspiracy between trump and russia. mueller did not find sufficient evidence to establish such a conspiracy, and so the details are more or less irrelevant. >> and, liz, what do you make of the message from giuliani, you know, that it's not an issue of immorality, that there are a host of other reasons why the president was a victim in all of this?

>> i agree with rudy giuliani.th taking information from a foreign government. as americans we should never tolerate a foreign nation having influence over our democracy. having influence over the way we make our decisions, deciding who becomes president of the united states. we should not tolerate it. if it's not legal we should make it illegal. this is where we need to go when it comes to oversight >> how about something less than impeachment? are you and your colleagues considering, say, a formal censu censure, something that sends a message to americans that you won't stand for what you have seen in the mueller report but doesn't go as far as the all-consuming impeachment? >> to me, all of the options are on the table. at the end of the day, i will make my decision as to how i vote based on the facts that i will see. based on the facts the american public are going to see on television as we address these issues in committee. >> congressman, while we have you, i want to ask about the terror attack in sri lanka.

in "the washington post," rudy giuliani asked this.ght any of those things were crimes, why did he stay there? a lawyer for mcgahn responded, it's a mystery why rudy giuliani feels the need to re-litigate incidents the attorney general and deputy attorney general have concluded were not obstruction. on "meet the press," giuliani went further. >> why isn't the president -- why isn't the president angry at the russians? why is he so angry at bob mb mcgahn? the russians tried to show his campaign wasn't legitimate. >> why wouldn't you be upset with someone that tried to accuse you of treason. >> what a weekend, everybody. nadler says he will call don mcgahn to testify. also president trump's claims of total exoneration are ringing hollow with the public as a poll finds. in the wake of the mueller report's release, his rating dropped to a new low this year. conducted friday after the redacted report's release shows the approval rate has sunk to 37%. down six points from where it was just after a.g. barr released his letter. that's his wors

now, giuliani even went as far as to text a reporter from "politico" at 2:54 a.m.tuesday about.m the size of the president's counterreport, saying it was at least 34 or 35 pages long, adding, quote, the more concise the better. 400 pages is a novel. nbc news has also learned that house intelligence committee chair adam schiff and ranking member devin nunes sent a joint letter last month asking for a briefing from special counsel bob mueller. according to the letter which was obtained by nbc news they also asked for access to all materials obtained or produced by the special counsel's office. and once the mueller report becomes public the document will be med i will available to the public and free to read, but that's not stopping a rush to capitalize on it. this, the daily beast is pointing out that the "washington post" is selling the text ofto mueller's report with analysis from threere reporterst the end of the month. audible an audio book company is currently taking preorders for an audio version of the 300-plus page report. and forpa more than a month attorney

but rudy giuliani is playing the spin cycle., i mean, the notre dame fire was less tha a week ago, that feels it was in the kcrut o o us era, they want to move on and i think he's opening a huge can of worms going forward that we're now legitimizing hacking in and of itself. >> so that if a campaign in 2020, 2024 gets information from a foreign adversary, that accord to giuliani was trg , as l what was hacked by a foreign government and given to you was true it's usable. >> neeveryo going to have their own suwallenpaupacpac pa s interference? >> iteration just signal the russians, rey, help us find. go found emails.te buttigieg >> are we financing this -- none of us are, rudy giuliani is trying to.hy that's w it is incumbent on lawmakers on, presidential candidates, people in the political sphere to make sure that does not become acceptable to amy's point. >> d buttigieg's emails will be in norwegian so it's not a problem. >> jerrold nadler said he does think the offenses are impeachable. then heap said the caveat -- assuming th

and rudy giuliani makes the distinction in his comment there.ything illegal about it or is anything wrong about it? those are two different distinctions you can talk about ethics and what the law is. look, rudy giuliani is either just being extremely quaint, or what he's doing is he's supporting his employers in the white house. i'll leave that to viewers to figure out. if anybody came to me and said i'm a candidate for office or i'm a politician hear in the united states, or i'm considering running or even if i'm a rich businessman, i would argue very -- they need to be very thoughtful and careful about who they deal with talking about the russian government or any other adversarial nation. the russians are poised to take advantage of this. >> when you watch the interview with rudy giuliani being asked if he would take money from a foreign source. he said he wouldn't and would have advised against it out of an abundance of caution. so why advise someone not to do something is there is, quote, nothing wrong. >> there's clearly from a counterinte

not only did giuliani say there's anything wrong with taking information from russians.of sorts to the mueller report. what's going on with that. >> yeah, alex, we heard the white house was working on this rebuttal for quite some time, in that interview with jake tapper on state of the union, they don't feel they have to put that report out. he told jake it wouldn't be coming out tomorrow. he did leave the possibility open of that rebuttal from the president's league el team if ultimately comes congressional testimony, they feel they need to rebut. mueller mayor make statements through that rebuttal. giuliani stated during the interview, that there were several falsehoods in the report. listen to this exchange. >> a lot of what cohen -- they recite what cohen said as if it's the truth. we dangled a pardon in front of cohen. we did not. it was not a fair report. it wasn't like the normal prosecutor, when you find that a person didn't commit the crime, you then go look at the high poth sifrs of how did it come about? how did it start, how could the fbi have started an inve

rudy giuliani is playing a spin cycle. feels like it was in the cretaceous si cretaceous cycle. they think they can punt it i think he's opening a huge can of worms going forward that we're legitimizing hacking in and of itself. >> so that if a campaign in 2020, 2024 gets information from a foreign adversary, that according to giuliani was true, as long as what was hacked by a foreign government and given to you was true, then it's usable. >> so, everybody's going to have they super pack with foreign intelligence. >> that is clear as long as -- who am i to say? who am i to say? >> did rudy giuliani just signal the russians to help us now? >> he may have. but the question you asked before the break, are we normalizing this idea of foreign interference in the elections. no, none of us do. this is incumbent on lawmakers to make sure that does not become acceptable. >> also buttigieg emails would be norwegian, so not a problem. >> jarld nadler thinks he's offenses are impeachable and said the caveat assuming we prove obstructi

what do you make of this messaging from rudy giuliani. get information, to describing how he sees this report as fairly complimentary of the president. >> i assume that rudy would say it's okay for the government to get the steele dossier. the more significant issue is pretty straightforward, so he's telling us that it's okay to steal information like they stole emails during the last election, and give it to a campaign because they want to favor one candidate over another. we want to encourage foreign intelligence services to steal and give it to a campaign, because that's what will happen. we saw it during the last campaign, i don't know what he's talking about, i don't know what he's thinking. >> we shouldn't take this as relevant because the document is not credible. >> no, no, look at it this way, people who were unfair to him, people who wrote an unfair report -- how about having manafort -- >> wait, came close to torture? >> how about having manafort in solitary confinement and questioning him -- >> do you put people in solitary co

>> giuliani, the president's personal lawyer will be here. the media deeply divided over joe biden, women accusing of touching them. >> i'm sorry i didn't understand you. i'm not sorry for any of my intentions. i'm not sorry for anything i had ever done to a man or a woman. >> he's a nice guy, he's not a predator, you're eating your young. >> commentators on the left find former insufficient liberal along with conservatives critical of his conduct. >> i'm not sure that somebody who is so out of step where this sort of energy in the democratic party is needs to get into this race and sort of swim against the tide, right, if he were pushing policies, more progressive than where the democratic party is or more progressive end, that would be one thing. this was a republican he would be called groping. >> creepy, crazy uncle joe biden. he's facing serious backlash, you guessed it, being creepy. >> plus, journalists accusing the president of reversing himself on health care and closing the borders, he dismisses that, who is right here, i'm howard k

i think other people in the administration would disagree with giuliani's point of view there.e broadly, first of all it is certainly top of mind for the president. this is easter sunday, and he has been tweeting all day long about the mueller investigation and the witch hunt and so on. but this impeach for the democrats, the challenge is it's not a motivating issue, and we saw that the midterms in 2018. they won back the house not because of impeachment, but because of issues like health care. >> i guess the question is what do they decide based on the new information they have. we finally have the mueller report. ken dilanian and susan page, thank you so much for your insights. >> thanks. >>> when we continue, what the mueller report told us about seth rich and months of false claims from julian assange. that's next. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ at a comfort inn with a glow taround them, so people watching will be like, "wow, maybe i'll glow too if i book direct at choicehotels.com." w

>> people have been saying for weeks that rudy giuliani maybe lost it. some people say he's crazy like a fox. this might be one of the examples where rudy giuliani is doing what he's done for the president for the last year and change which is basically moving the goal posts in the public sphere. changing the debate about what's wrong and what's right. on pen and paper, what he's saying in the clip is it is not illegal. as a result of that it's permissib permissible. you can't criticize president trump for that. that's a political argument aimed at undermining the talk about impeachment we have been talking about. i wouldn't be surprised if you hear the president's allies echoing that. at the same time there are people who are president trump's allies who have been saying for a long time. this is obviously inappropriate. it was clearly something they should not have been open to. you can't get around it. they are trying to change the public narrative to tamp down criticism leading to the impeachment debate, particularly in the house >> but on pen and pap

giuliani. there is a lot wrong with taking information from an adversary, foreign adversary foreign government. >> reporter: another major development in the investigation, the trump organization is now suing house oversight committee chairman elijah cummings to block demps from obtaining the president's financial statements for the last eight years, saying in a statement, it's ununprecedented overreach of congressional authority. cummings fired back saying the president has a long history of trying to use baseless lawsuits to attack his adversaries, but there is simile month valid basis to fight with the duly authorized subpoena from congress. herman kane has decided against seeking a spot on the federal reserve. but the president was having trouble communicating the facts on the terrorist attacks in sri lanka. at one point tweeting that 138 million people had died. mr. trump also tweeted he had spoken with the president of a sri lanka. turns out it was that country's prime minister. >>> as fo

jane harmon, what rudy giuliani said was surprising. what he's ceased to surprise most americans. >> yeah, it was. his argument is that if money didn't transfer from the russians to the trump campaign, there was no violation of the election laws. therefore, no problem. any other information can transfer on any other basis. well, whoops, a couple thoughts. counterintelligence. there's an investigation going on right now wit itingly or unwittingly or members of his election campaign or after that could have become agents of a foreign power. number two, fake news. if fake news transfers and is propagated here, that's an influence operation, which is totally unfair if not illegal. point three, compromise. that's information about public officials in compromising situations. something the russians are good at and having that stuff out is not only embarrassing to these public officials. but so muy view is that rudy giuliani is putting his flag up too early. . >> he said a lot of his time. any presidential candidate would have taken it. >> he'

his people were upset what giuliani was saying. >> kevin, your read on mcgahn? is that who the president's tweet is referencing by saying statements made about me by certainly people are fabricated? probablycgahn. who else? >> the sub tweet of all sub tweets. i agree with jeff of where the president's frustration is lying with don mcgahn. the question for the administration officials will have to come out of reading this. in particular the president's mood as shannon and bloomberg reported. will he turn against those folks in the report who were going against him to the mueller investigation? now the white house has said no, of course, but behind-the-scenes, that could be painted a different picture. in the coming weeks ahead, the next data points on the story line where bob mueller testifies before congress and republicans have called on the special counsel to do. with senator warren's cries for impeachment, that puts a new type of shadow over this entire conversation that is being had. it also places a lot of pressure on speaker nancy pelosi because senator wa

rudy giuliani says, "testify if you want. not a problem." the politics -- which is obviously super interesting. i'm really interested in how bill barr started his press conference this morning. the attorney general going through the initial reason that we have this investigation in the first place, that russia tried to interfere in our election. he goes through and talks about how they tried to manipulate the media using wikileaks also -- even though it conspiracy, this was all in this report. and then to get to the part about paul manafort sharing information about the trump campaign during the election, in the summer before november of 2016. sharing information, internal information that "the wall street journal" actually reported on earlier on. some of the reporting was obviously way off in the last two years. but some of it was spot on. >> bill: that statement is now that the collusion of instruction in conspiracy theories have been exposed, as they always were. the obama-era doj and fbi must answer for their misdeeds and the skin that t

what's your response to what rudy giuliani said? >> i think it's shocking and destructive. because it is now going to be the new norm, right? as i gather, as you said earlier, there's a reason the resident himself and the campaign denied having these contacts, because it was once viewed, not so long in american politics, as damaging, illegitimate, wrong to have these kinds of contacts, including secret contacts with an adversary -- with agents of an adversarial power, including not just providing information, but providing stolen information and being encouraged to get more stolen information, et cetera. so what rudy's comment to you shows is what -- what it means for me, and what trump's tweet, while they didn't interview, means to me that the house has to go ahead with hearings. and they have to be serious about those hearings. if donald junior wants to talk so much and if he did not talk to special prosecutor, special counsel mueller, i'm sure the house judiciary committee would be happy to have him talk. and if rudy giuliani and if the house leaves this alone now, what

meantime, the president's attorney, rudy giuliani was on the sunday morning talk shows. he spoke with jake tapper on state of the union, and jake asked about some of the behavior outlined in the report, specifically whether it was ethical or moral. listen to giuliani's response. >> any candidate in america would take information -- >> from a hostile foreign source. >> there's nothing wrong with taking information from russians. >> it depends on where it came from. it depends on where it came from. you're assuming that the giving of information as a campaign contribution. read the report carefully. the report says we can't conclude that because the law is pretty much against that. >> the strategy here from the president's legal team is one that we have seen before. they're now just questioning the credibility of people cited in the mueller report even as they accept the report's general findings. house speaker nancy pelosi is scheduled to hold a conference call with the democratic caucus at 5:00 p.m. on monday to talk about the possibility of pursuing improvement. dave a

one thing that rudy giuliani is talking about is the idea and i'm paraphrasing. it's okay if other countries interfere if the information that they give is accurate. here he is saying that. >> there is nothing wrong with taking information from russians. depends on where it came from. >> it is okay for political campaigns to work with material stolen by foreign adversaries. >> it depends on the stolen material. >> cynthia, if you're sitting in the kremlin and you're in china right now and beijing, how are you hearing that and should americans be worried about that kind of language? >> americans should be very worried about that language. it means it's open season to interfere in the american election. whatever was left of rudy giuliani's reputation has now just swirled down the last bit of the drain. that's just a shocking thing for a law enforcement person to say. i mean, he had a great reputation as a law enforcement officer and now he's just a pathetic excuse. >> cynthia, i don't know where to go on that piece as you vividly put it. i mean, it's so depressing

i'm not talking about attorney general william barr although that's a valid giuliani.>> is there anybody that believes michael cohen and would he even get past ten minutes of cross-examination? i could point to all sorts of things about michael dhooen should have been pointed out that he's lying about, some of it they know and they're withholding. > i have never heard him one time say this is the end of my candidacy. this is the end of my presidency. i'm never heard him utter those words. we've been in pretty impossible situations together. that is not the way he speaks. >> i've been next to donald trump dozens, hundreds, thousands of times and never heard him be debbie downer. anybody who says he was debbie downer, my presidency is over is buttigieg absolute liar. >> good time on the sunday talk shows no doubt. as i was saying what better way to break down all of this and the former watergate prosecutor who is with me right now, nick akerman joining the panel, as well. welcome to you. >> thank you. >> and thank you all for being here. trump's inner circle last night a

giuliani this morning and stunned he would have said that. look.hing out of this report which is no evidence to support the idea of collusion or coordination. that's a good thing and no reason now to go out and talk about how it was right and proper when i think the vast amount of americans believe it's not a good idea. i think the wikileaks people, assange, the russians, folk that is tried to hack into and meddle in the democracy need to be held accountable by the government because they obviously weren't held accountable by the previous one either. i don't want them talking about this moving on into the future because i think it's going to prolong what's been a frankly painful couple of years for the republican party and donald trump can try to have a normal presidency and if the democrats don't move to impeach him then perhaps he can get two years of normalcy here. >> the comments of rudy giuliani this morning to jake were all part of a rebuttal to senator mitt romney who's among the very few republicans not cheering for the president after the

meantime, the president's attorney, rudy giuliani was on the sunday morning talk shows.poke with jake tapper on state of the union. jake asked him about behavior outlined in the mueller report, specifically whether it was ethical or moral. >> any candidate in the whole world in america would take information. >> from a hostile foreign source? >> there's nothing wrong with taking information from russians. it depends on where it came from. you're assuming that the giving of the information is a campaign contribution. the report says we can't conclude that because the law is pretty much against that. >> the strategy from the president's legal team is one we have seen before. they are questioning the credibility of people cited in mueller's report as they accept the report's general findings. we should point out house speaker nancy pelosi is scheduled to hold a conference call with the democratic caucus at 5:00 p.m. on monday to talk about the possibility of pursuing impeachment. david and michelle. >> thank you so much, boris. >>> a former u.s. attorney in manhattan says t

giuliani is saying that legality is the only thing that should matter. >> i like all of the words youed, ali, it's wrong, illegal, immoral, unethical, boiled down to its essence, there is a crime called receipt of stolen property, that's criminal justice 101. you cannot take something that was stolen by somebody else and appropriate it for your own use. i have to tell you, as former career law enforcement officers, we sit here and we can't believe what we hear tumbling out of rudy giuliani's mouth. when he says something like, it's okay to use information that russia hacked into u.s. databases to acquire, weaponized that information and use it against our political opponents, you know, that's virtually rudy giuliani announcing russia, if you're listening, keep it up. >> here's the thing, glen. that's what president trump said on the campaign trail and it worked for him. unless it's illegal, rudy giuliani is laughing all the way back to his cherry pie at the white house. where does wrongdoing actually count? don mcgahn is a perfect example. the chief white house counsel, people are say

rudy giuliani. he helped convince our president not to testify and to give answers that were lawyered and that would insulate him. that was a smart move. he joins us now. mr. mayor, can you hear us. >> yes. >> i'll make sure to give you space to answer. there's no need to argue. we know all the facts. first question for you, sir. do you guys have your rebutal report. is that coming out any time soon? >> we do. it's basically done and the question is when do we put it out? you're flooded with so much material and frankly right now the discussion seems to be pretty clear. we'll put it out. we'll put it out maybe -- probably not until after the weekend. >> okay. >> it's about 30 pages and two sections. so probably more like 45. >> why weren't you ready to go? >> we were. >> why not put it out at the same time? >> we decided we would rather have it play out without our arguments being out there and see how it developed. >> very tactical. what about transparency and getting it all out. >> i'm a lawyer, r

. >> president trump's lawyer, rudy giuliani, said on cnn's state of the union there was nothing wronga presidential candidate excepting information from roster -- from russia. the stray shark rebuke -- a sharp rebuke from another guest on the program. >> any candidate in the whole world and america would take information -- >> from a hostile foreign source? it is legal? did the information cannot be false? the information it was clean and disseminated, every newspaper printed it. post andhe washington the information it came from a foreign source when they knew it was hacked? for doingust as wrong that as the campaign wanted to use that? >> why did you call mitt romney a hypocrite. >> there is nothing wrong with taking information from russians it depends where it came from. >> on the question of whether or not it is ok to take the russians, i pressure that will be -- that rudy giuliani's role is to use -- to stick up for the present but he should pause and think about what he is saying as advocate for a president who he claims is exonerated. that we that it is ok, should be telling f

. >>> president trump's personal attorney rudy giuliani on the attack over the mueller report on this easter sunday. you think it would be easy for trump's legal team to control the public narrative after mueller cleared the president on conspiracy but watch as giuliani ramped up the rhetoric while taking a victory lap for his boss. >> any candidate in the whole world in america would take information, negative -- >> from a foreign source? from a hostile foreign source? >> who says it's illegal? there's nothing wrong with taking information from russians. it depends on where it came from. they didn't make things up. they shouldn't have stolen it. the american people given more information of how deceptive, how manipulative her people and her campaign were. when did mueller become god? he said the injury to the justice system is great. we are talking about a crime. we're talking about something to that didn't happen. there was no obstruction. nothing was denied him. nobody crushed cell phones like hillary did. nobody deleted 33,000 e-mails like hillary's people did. nobody bleached a s

. >> mike: back with me, rudy giuliani. i want to bring in joseph digenova, former u.s. attorney as well as robert ray, former whitewater independent counsel. joe, let me start with you. bob woodward was no trump fan for sure and certainly not a card-carrying member of the republican national committee. basically he was saying, this was the work of john brennan. >> there is no doubt, this is pretty simple stuff for career prosecutors like rudy and myself. it has been evident from day one that there was a brazen plot to exonerate hillary clinton illegally and then if she lost the election to frame

but the same thing with rudy giuliani.him things and he was saying things that were objectively false. if you're going to interview him, why don't you call him out on every lie as they're moving forward? i don't understand. that's not even-handed journalism. that's just allowing a propagandist to come on and tell knowable lies. >> yeah. i was thinking about that this weekend, too. there was a publisher out in colorado i think the denver post name palmer hoyt, who during the mccarthy era raised the question of why should newspapers, the central vernacular of the time, why should newspapers simply report what a united states senator says if there is no evidence for it and if there's a plausible case this wasn't true. and mccarthy, mayor jewel an gis doing his best to do his roy cohn impress yesterday, mccarthy understood when afternoon and morning papers went to press, he would make outlandish no isish announcements and pronouncements before nip had a chance to check them. this guy hoyt in denver said perhaps we need to do f

. >> rudy giuliani texted me this was "a knockout blow" for the president when it comes to his criticsafter 22 months and $25 million, the story did not really change much today. attorney general william barr made it clear yet again, just as he did in his letter to congress last month, the special counsel found no collusion by any americans with russia, including trump aids. barr declaring while yes, russia tried to interfere in the last election, they did not get help from kendra trump or his aides. democrats claiming they had evidence of collusion, robert mueller never found it. despite democrats and pundits repeatedly hinting that donald trump jr. was going to be indicted over the trump tower meeting, the bottom line is it was not criminal. that's part of volume two of the mueller report which is more damaging to the president. special counsel detail ten instances where the president acted in a way that raised questions at least about obstruction of justice. mueller declaring in his report "while this report is not concluded the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerat

don mcgahn was attacked by rudy giuliani in some of rudy giuliani's public comments because don mcgahness against donald trump in the mueller report. don mcgahn, white house counsel taking notes in virtually all of his conversations with the president, don mcgahn was given the orders to fire the special prosecutor. he wouldn't do it. don mcgahn is possibly as i said the the most important source in the mueller report. of course, rudy giuliani starred attacking him. and tonight, don mcgahn's lawyer william burck issued a statement saying it's a mystery why rudy giuliani feels the need to relitigate what the attorney general and deputy attorney general have concluded were not obstruction but they are accurately described in the report. don nevertheless appreciates that the president gave him the opportunity to be as white house counsel and assist him with his signature accomplishments. and so here we have now the first public crack in the mcgahn wall. >> well, what you see there is him trying to have it both ways in a way. i actually think don mcgahn came out of the report looking very c

and he said it, my old boss rudy giuliani said it.ne to take stolen material brought to you by russian spies to use in a campaign. it's fine to use in wisconsin, michigan, ohio, pennsylvania. it's all good. they've decided they're just completely nihilistic about it, and they're going to have a clear path ahead in their minds. as long as donald trump is happy they're going to be happy. >> for viewers just tuning in, who've been maybe in a drug induced coma for two years we're talking about russia and republican party attitudes towards russia. does that ever blow your mind still? >> i grew up in the cold war. and as the last generation of people who -- while there was still a soviet union, it was always clear this was a country that was our global adversary. we tried really hard for a while to pretend it wasn't, but everything they've done in crimea, in georgia, in ukraine, across europe and around the world they've acted as a global foe to our country. donald trump acts when he's with vladimir putin like a star struck schoolgirl. he m

where giuliani isn't under oath. sarah sanders not just this incident. another incident which hasn't gotten as much coverage is that which was newly learned in the report. the press office at the white house wanted to put out a statement claiming that rod rosenstein was the one who wanted mueller fired and he's the one behind it all. that was just not true. rosenstein had to say it them i will tell truth. if asked. >> that episode was sort of comedy of inside the white house. trump is going to fire him. and learns rosenstein didn't like comey and write a memo. they use that as cover. and tried to get rosenstein to be the face of it and he said no way. trump says his team messed up all of this and he was going to do the interview and straighten it out. and the statement in that interview that he did it fired comey because of russia. was highly incriminating. i think if you take a step back, we learned this white house lies like they breathe. and the only way to pin them down is when you have the force of law enforcement there. and the threat of criminal p

joining me now, the president's lead lawyer, rudy giuliani., happy easter, sir. >> happy easter, happy passover and good to be with you. chris: you were planning, we were told, to release a counterreport to the mueller report, about 45 pages. why haven't you done so, and are you still planning to? >> number one, we haven't done so because we planned to do it if we needed to. so far we don't think we need to. that may become necessary. there is -- whether they go ahead with the hearings or not, whether other issues are raised by different people. there's probably a point at which we'll use it. right now we think the public debate is playing out about as well as it can. it raises a lot of issues that maybe we didn't have to respond to. chris: you have said if the you were going to release the counter-report, it was going to focus on obstruction. here's what the president had to say about that after the mueller report was released. >> right. >> they're having a good day, i'm having a good day too. it was called -- [laughter] no collusion, no obst

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and dana, you just spoke to rudy giuliani, one of the president's attorneys. what did he tell you about how the president's team prepared -- is preparing to respond to the report? >> well, we have been hearing from him and from jay sekulow and other members of the legal team for months and months and months that they were preparing their own rebuttal report. so what giuliani told me earlier is that they are now refining that rebuttal. not because they claim to know any specifics of what's in it, but just based on the guide post that they got from barr's letter a couple of weeks ago. so they're doing that. one of the things that he told me and you all talked to your sources at the white house and justice department so i'd be curious to see what you think of this. what he said is that barr, as far as they know, has not been in touch with and in consultation with, that's a better word. barr has not been in consultation with white house counsel about the possibility of executive privilege, meaning any of those redactions that we expect to come because of executive

giuliani and schiff, live, only on "fox news sunday." a plus. >> you build america, we build america. >> chris: joe biden is set to announce his candidacy for president this week. we will ask our senate panel how his formal entry will change the 2020 democratic race. and a power player classic. on this easter sunday we would revisit the pens family's pet bunny. >> chris: all right now on "fox news sunday." hello again and happy easter and passover from fox news in washington. we begin with breaking news. in sri lanka, several coordinated explosions have killed more than 200 people. there have been eight bombings, three churches, where worshipers gathered for easter services. others at luxury hotels. no one has claimed responsibility for the attacks. back here at home, president trump is at his florida retreat for the holidays, but he's not taking a break from both celebrating what he calls exoneration by the mueller report, while at the same time attacking former aides who he said misled the special counsel. meanwhile, democrats are spli

to me from rudy giuliani from the entire legal team.iuliani, sekulow and the other two. oil he read you a little bit. the results of the investigation are a total victory for the president. the report underscores what we've argued from the very begin. there was no collusion or obstruction. but they aren't so charitable about the mueller report itself. it says the report itself is nothing more than an attempt to rehash old allegations despite the fact that it is reiterated by the department of justice, inspector general. neither the f.b.i. or department prosecutors are per misted to -- basically they are oef saying anything that is negative in this report goes against justice department guidelines. a big argument with the case of james comey and hillary clinton in july of 2016. you either decide you will prosecute or you won't prosecute. you don't put out a lot of dirt on somebody you aren't going to prosecute. this report is just going to be something we pour over for a long period of time. one of the interesting issues in here has alwa

whether giuliani supports it or not, that doesn't change.ink we are heading towards a court battle. nadler and other democrats say they are not looking for less redacted version but want full redactions gone and rejected barr's version of a another redacted version. they are not making the ultimate decision here. >> what is the impact of the 2020 candidates on impeachment? we know senator warren said the house should start impeachments. does that ratchet up any pressure for house leadership who said thus far we are not going there? >> i think it does because we are talking about this morning, right? nancy pelosi has been able to keep the talk of impeachment down. i interviewed her last month. she told me impeachment would be a gift to republicans if republicans were not on board. they think the mueller report cleared the president or at least of them do at least. what it did do, elizabeth warren and other democrats and house democrats are saying impeachment proceedings should start so the conversation is back. pelosi and hoyer and other lead