rudy giuliani was brought down by rudy giuliani. he dies in a few years, they would name high schools after him. they would rename laguardia airport after him. he would go down as a complex, weird, funny, strange, highly accomplished guy, who at two key inflection points in history, stood up and offered powerful leadership. that man's gone, unfortunately. it's tragic. >>> tonight, television takes a look at itself. >> what's onhe

rudy giuliani was brought down by rudy giuliani. piano music] ♪ ♪ - if rudy had left public life either after 9/11 or after 2008, when he dies in a few years, they would name high schools after him. they would rename laguardia airport after him. he would go down as a complex, weird, funny, strange, highly accomplished guy, who at two key inflection points in history, stood up and offered powerful leadership. that man's gone, unfortunately. it's tragic. >>> we have to ask ourselves, when was the last time we talked about race with somebody of another race? and if the answer is never, we're part of the problem.

this is giuliani talking.n, we're meddling in an investigation." - there's nothing illegal about it. - what giuliani and trump want to happen here is an investigation into hunter biden. both of them view an investigation as politically advantageous. it doesn't really matter what the outcome is, as long as they can use that as a as a political cudgel against the son of joe biden, who at this point, is clearly the biggest threat to a second term for president trump. - he's running around representing himself as sort of an arm of the state department, a representative of the president. - giuliani and the people who are trying to help him started building relationships with the people they thought would be in power. - in the meantime, ukraine elects a new president. - volodymyr zelenskyy, an actor best known for playing the president of ukraine, was elected to lead that country. - i think at this time, president zelenskyy was a relatively unknown player on the world stage. he had won this election in ukraine, but

it's not what giuliani feels. take one. - the night when amadou was killed, i was across the ocean in guinea. that night, my daughter woke me up around 2:00 a.m. this cousin called from new york. and i said to him... [sighs] "is amadou okay?" he said, "why you ask?" i said, "it's not even daybreak in new york." i said, "something is wrong. is my child sick? is amadou sick?" he kept silent. so i said, "amadou--did amadou die?" and he said, "yes." amadou loved everything about the usa. he always dreamt about coming to the u.s. "setté" in my native tongue is the explorer, someone who goes away from their families to go and discover new things. people that are left back home, their loved ones, their brothers, their sisters, will expect magnificent return. but amadou returned as a silent body with a story untold. and... [sighs] i could have given anything, anything for amadou not to be the one. but, yet, he was the chosen one to be an agent for change. get ready to say those five little words. no, not “let me get the p

now he's king giuliani. - giuliani was just starting to wear on the public of new york. - the city was ready to move on, was ready to turn the page from the giuliani years. [soft acoustic music] ♪ ♪ [dreamy piano music] ♪ ♪ - manhattan is like no place else in the world. ♪ ♪ in new york, what you see is-- first of all, you see a natural wonder of buildings. you know, it's like the pyramids. ♪ ♪ the buildings dwarf you. the buildings remind you of how unimportant you are, because you're so tiny. ♪ ♪ in this big, incredible city, when you see it, it makes you want to come and see it. it makes you curious about it. it makes it something bigger than life. ♪ ♪ i have strong feelings about new york, everything that makes up new york. we're the crossroads of the world. this is the center of the universe. i mean, there is no place that gets more people from more different places. you sort of get, like, a view of the whole world by just standing there and walking around. it's really my deep passion, the love for the people of this city, and the love of this city. ♪ ♪ when you look back on it, y

>> no that has been -- he is king giuliani. >> was re giuliani was startir on the public of new york.acoustere is noic peace you know. >> the city was ready to move on was ready to turn the page fromi the giuliani years . ♪ ♪ ♪ >> manhattan is like no place else in the world. in new york, what you see isds first of all. wonder of buildings. you know, it's like the picture pyramids. . the buildings dwarf you. the buildings remind you of how unimportant you are. because you're so tiny. it so >>me big incredible city when yu see it. it makes you want to come andver seone it. seone it. it makes you curious about it. it makes it something bigger than life. >> i have strong feelings about new york. everything that makes up newom york.ound people fro.m more different places sort of get like a viewle places sort of get like a viewle of the of th whole world by just standing there walking around. it's really my deep passion. the love for the people of this city. and the love of this city. >> when you look back on it, you keep thinking, well maybe it didn't really happen. you keep wishing it away. >>

and as giuliani came onto the scene and then became mayor, he said very aptly that giuliani was a belovedame around to a real sense of endearment with him because he got some things done that were important and that substantially changed the city for the better. - he's an extraordinarily complex individual, smart, smart, smart, hard-, hard-, hardworking. - he had a little bit of-- not a little bit. he had a lot of kind of a superman complex, that, you know, he could do anything. - my real ambition was someday to be united states attorney in the southern district of new york, which i finally attained. - the u.s. attorney's office of the southern district is the most prestigious in the country. and rudy giuliani made a major mark in new york city shortly after he arrived in the role. - i was very fortunate to find something that i can do that i have some natural talent for and that engages my interests and that i enjoy. i enjoy working as a lawyer. - there's probably nothing more challenging to a up-and-coming litigator than trying cases. you are constantly on display. you are constantly me

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to understand the rudy giuliani of today in my opinion, you have to look at the rudy giuliani historicallyew york city. a republican in an overwhelmingly democratic city. rudy giuliani is used to swimming upstream constantly and with the political noise, the critics, he takes them on. he takes them on. he does not know how to back down. he's full speed ahead, no matter what. and if you understand that about rudy giuliani, then -- and he's been quite successful, no denying when you look at his record as mayor of new york city, kate, he was quite successful at turning new york city around. i contend as someone who was a severe critic to begin with and now all these years later that history as far as mayor will judge him as perhaps the best mayor of new york city ever, but that's just as mayor. >> that's just one chapter of rudy giuliani's life. >> one chapter. >> and legacy. you still speak to him fairly regularly. does he believe the lies and conspiracies that he has pushed, that he has told on behalf of donald trump about the election? does he think he has done the right thing in sticking

ladies and gentlemen, rudy giuliani!ship, resilience -- >> put your mask on -- >> reporter: leading new york city and the country through one of its darkest times -- >> today is obviously one of the most difficult days in the history of the city. >> reporter: rudy giuliani now facing -- >> legal jeopardy. i not he's going to be in and out of courtrooms, in and out of grand jury. >> reporter: america's mayor has become a punch line. >> bad to the bone, bad -- >> reporter: using his voice to spread conspiracies and lies about the 2020 election being stolen -- >> i know crimes, i can smell them. >> reporter: as former president donald trump's personal attorney and mouthpiece. >> i do not think that rudy giuliani understands that there has been a tremendous erosion of his reputation, that he has caused at all. he looks in the mirror, and he sees the hero of 9/11. [ cheers ] >> let's have trial by combat! >> reporter: some lawmakers argued his words on january 6th played a part in inciting the violence that followed at the ca

ladies and gentlemen, rudy giuliani!york city and the country through one of its darkest times. >> today is obviously one of the most difficult days in the history of the city. >> rudy giuliani now facing -- >> legal jeopardy. i think he's going to be in and out of courtrooms, in and out of grand juries. >> america's mayor has become a punch line. ♪ bad to the bone ♪ >> using his voice to spread conspiracies and lies about the 2020 election being stolen. >> i know crimes, i can smell them. >> as former president trump's personal attorney and mouthpiece. >> i do not think that rudy giuliani understands that there has been a tremendous>> he look sees the hero of 9/11. >> let's have trial by combat! >> some lawmakers argued his words on january 6th played a part in inciting the violence that followed at the capitol. >> if the faith is broken, so is our democracy. >> the house select committee says giuliani fueled the former president's inclination to declare victory. >> president trump rejected the advice of his campaign ex

now, any prosecutor probing people like giuliani or trump lawyer john eastman or trump himself faces these extra hurdles. i want to be clear and spell out the reason we hear about the hurdles. prosecutors work for the government. they mostly prosecute civil yanls. those are people out of government. when the facts suggest they have to turn and investigate their own -- government leaders, their own bosses, the police who are their government teammates in investigations -- that is harder. now, let me level with you. some prosecutors just basically won't do it unless they are dragged to it. that's one reason some jurisdictions in the unite, and you can count had up, have over years at a time, no charges for the officials or police who work there, no matter what they do. and that brings us to an old case that is new again, the one that brought shame on rudy giuliani and new york, which many argued was one of the signs that giuliani cared more about order and power than any equal administration of the law, back when he was america's mayor, and more popular in many ways. giuliani was pushi

>>> rudy giuliani, several of which giuliani's correspondence mr. meadows.us attempts to subvert american democracy was law professor and trip attorney john eastman. >> the entire executive branch is headed by one guy. >> trump saw him on fox news an shortly after that he was in th oval office. >> fraudulent elect doors were just that one in eastman's plan for which he outlined in these memos, and justified with false claims of, "illegal actions by state and local election officials." step two of his plan would have to be executed by vice presiden mike pence on january 6th, whil visiting over the opening and counting out electoral ballots. >> what you can do is you can say, "due to these disputes in the seven states we are going t send this back to the states, and the states would then be able to help donald trump wins the election." >> it was a lie. in fact, december 19th, 2020, just four days before dr dr. eastman set this memo, dr dr. eastman himself admitted, i an e-mail, that the fake electors had no legal weight. referring to the fake electors as, "dea

of 9/11 became the rudy giuliani of january 6th.breaking down this operatic american life. and to really four acts. he's introduced to the american people and certainly new yorkers as a crusading u.s. attorney. then becomes mayor of new york. and that record as mayor before 9/11 is extraordinary. he cuts crime and welfare in half, focuses on quality of life, businesses come back, people come back to the city. so, it's a very effective tenure. then there's america's mayor. he's rising to the moment, the man meeting the moment after 9/11. and then there's this descent, this tragic fall, when he falls in with donald trump and becomes the number one emissary in the court of public opinion trying to defend donald trump's election lie. and it's a tragic fall. but the challenge always is to see life in context and perspective. and that's what this documentary really attempts to do. >> i'm curious, do you think giuliani believes the lies he has told about the election and think he's done the right thing in his support of trump through all o

to just claim he won. >> reporter: giuliani's spokesperson denies the allegations.deral prosecutors in new york, an office giuliani once led, raided his apartment in connection with his business dealings in ukraine. that case fizzled. >> the feds didn't bring charges. it has to encourage him. >> reporter: he may not be as lucky in georgia where prosecutors say he is a target of an ongoing criminal probe examining efforts to overturn the 2020 election. >> what do you expect me to talk about today? >> they ask the questions. we will see. >> reporter: he was ordered to testify before a special grand jury this past summer. >> the man who used the rico statute to put away the five heads of the mafia is now potentially the subject of a rico action in georgia. >> reporter: more, giuliani is suspended from practicing law in new york and facing disbarment in washington, d.c. for pushing election lies. how do you see rudy's legacy? >> a mixed bag at best. that's a shame. >> thanks. the cnn original series "what happened to america's mayor" airs sunday night at 9:00 p.m. easte

did giuliani get paid throughout all of this? >> i know that you r reporting t the time was that trump was hemming and hawing about how he didn't want to pay rudy giuliani for any of the legal work he was doing after the election. giuliani actually asked the campaign to be paid $20,000 a day to do this work. they said no. that has come out in the house select committee investigation. but the records we've found show he made about $140,000 in two different companies for travel reimbursements, both of those coming from the trump campaign and related super pac. >>> and this morning an update on what could have possibly happened to a missing massachusetts mother, her name is ana walshe. and prosecutors are revealing new clues including a bloody knife that they found in the basement of the home that she shares with her husband and three young children. and sources tell cnn investigators are going through her husband's internet history and when they did that, they found a search for, quote, how to dispose of a 115 pound woman's body. h

this series shows giuliani in all of his complexity.s remember about him, as they watch these final two episodes? >> well, pamela, these final two episodes trace his arc from 9/11, from that pinnacle of international leadership, to his fall, falling in with donald trump and spreading election lies around january 6th. before the attacks of 9/11, rudy giuliani was an enormously successful mayor, a great mayor by any subjective standard, cutting crime more than 50%, cutting welfare in half, turning multibillion dollar deficits into surpluses, cutting taxes, restoring the quality of life, setting a model for urban america that showed cities were not, indeed, ungovernable. and that is a success in governing. and it's in stark contrast, in some ways, to how he is seen today. but it shouldn't be forgotten. the man needs to be remembered in all his complexities in his successes that threaten to be overwhelmed in the last chapter of his career. >> giuliani's actions during and after the trump era will have a big impact on his legacy. what do you

we don't know exactly how this is going to work out with giuliani.s tried to decline to answer questions. but now his attorney declined to comment to us today, as did the special counsel's office. >> katelyn, thank you very much for that exclusive reporting. let's go to ryan goodman, the co-editor in chief of just security, former special counsel at the defense department. and andy mccabe is back with me. katelyn's exclusive reporting is about the efforts to overturn the 2020 election, separate from the mar-a-lago documents that we were talking about a moment ago. but, as she said, this pertains to a broader conspiracy and financial crimes. how significant is this? >> so, i do think it's significant in your description of it as a major escalation is right on in the sense that it means that the justice department is going after the former president's top personal attorney. we can remember in the russian investigation when michael cohen was the target, everybody understood they've just crossed a major line. and this seems to be a major line. you would

>> what happened to rudy giuliani?s almost unthinkable. >> a theme that runs through his life is that he's got to be at the center of the action. >> rudy's got to be the star. >> rudy really wanted to make big cases. >> we sure can deliver a message, which is you're going to go to prison. >> new york has five organized crime families and they have been permitted to grow and grow and grow. >> giuliani was taking on the mafia. >> i heard a plane, it had crashed into one of the twin towers. >> there's a terrible tragedy. the best way we're going to get through this is if we remain calm. >> the number of casualties will be more than any of us can wear ultimately. >> those of us who are hear have to go about our lives aun grade. >> that was the man meeting the moment. fast forward to giuliani becomes the story of rise and fall. >> we're going to fight to the very end to make sure they don't take away our free and fair vote! >> rudy giuliani arguing that he wasn't literally advocating for insurrection. >> to understand the a

i read his cues. >> no, because listen, i covered rudy giuliani's first day as mayor. >> you did?cer at wnyw fox 5 and part of my job as a field producer that day was to cover his first day on the job. i remember going from deacons to rudy giuliani, we have been the last ten years, so d.c., even more. i think since obama, so d.c. focused, but we forget the influence that new york city and rudy giuliani had on our politics in this country. >> that's right, and look, one of the things this documentary does is i think it deals with the different chapters of rudy's life. the first chapter, u.s. attorney. the italian american who breaks the back of the mob. the second act, the mayor of new york city, and the record is extraordinary. when he came in, new york city averages 2,000 murders a year. they fell almost 70% under his watch, almost 60% reduction in crime, welfare cut in half. >> i totally reject that. i think that's nonsense. and i think there's a lot of lessons that frankly are from the policies put in place at that time which were adopted by mayors across the country which coul

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what could they be looking for and get from giuliani?know, big picture, kate, financial records don't lie and that is why they are so valuable to prosecutors. you could see who was sending money, number two who was in receipt of it and number three what that means to put a picture behind everything. you need testimony to round out some of that information, but this -- but it is critical to always, quote, and this is kaitlan's reporting, go after the money. so certainly you could help put together the puzzle in an investigation with records and i think that is what prosecutors are trying to do here. >> it is good to see you both. thank you very much. >>> so a first grade teacher is shot in her classroom. what do you do when the alleged shooter is 6 years old? a former prosecutor who faced that very question is our guest. . uhhhh... here, , i'll take that. [woo h hoo!] ensure max protein, withth 30 grams of protein, one gram of sugar and nutrients for immune health. there's nothing like volunteering at the fire department. there's nothing

and new york. >> i'm a new yorker and i grew up with giuliani with the d.a.ty for that. folks have said if he had retired years ago, he would have airports named after him. what is his legacy for new york city now? >> his -- well his obituary unfortunately have this donald trump in the lead. whereas it won't have before he became his attorney. it's not the legacy that he should have. but he doesn't care about his legacy. he said said to the new yorker a few years ago. i'll be dead. and that is what triggered my publishing of that column. i said, he may not care about his league but i care about my legacy having worked for him and i know that everyone else who worked for him cares about their legacy. >> it is fascinating. good to have you with us this morning and looking forward to seeing it all again. the new cnn original series "giuliani, what happens to america's mayor" premiers on sunday night with back-to-back episodes at 9:00 eastern and pacific on cnn. >>> and we just have into cnn, bryan kohberger, will make his first court appearance at 12:30 eastern

now the history, rudy giuliani.ad apple cops and a violent wave across britain in recent weeks has sparked growing calls from left to defund our police forces. the theory is largely anna—maria and concept fuelled by far agitators like blm antifa, but it now appears to be gaining traction here in the uk. but as mayor of crime ridden new york city for eight years until 2001, giuliani says the answer is not to defund our police , but to instead take our police, but to instead take a zero tolerance approach to crime no matter how small with tough leadership. he transformed new york from a criminal cesspit into a crime fighting haven that saw robberies plunge 67% and murder dropped by two thirds. i'm delighted to say he joins me now. mr. giuliani . great to have now. mr. giuliani. great to have you. how can britain , from your you. how can britain, from your zero tolerance approach that brought so success to new york dunng brought so success to new york during your time in charge. when the lefties overhear us saying hang

now the history, rudy giuliani.ad apple cops and a violent wave across britain in recent weeks has sparked growing calls from left to defund our police forces. the theory is largely anna—maria and concept fuelled by far agitators like blm antifa, but it now appears to be gaining traction here in the uk. but as mayor of crime ridden new york city for eight years until 2001, giuliani says the answer is not to defund our police , but to instead take our police, but to instead take a zero tolerance approach to crime no matter how small with tough leadership. he transformed new york from a criminal cesspit into a crime fighting haven that saw robberies plunge 67% and murder dropped by two thirds. i'm delighted to say he joins me now. mr. giuliani . great to have now. mr. giuliani. great to have you. how can britain , from your you. how can britain, from your zero tolerance approach that brought so success to new york dunng brought so success to new york during your time in charge. when the lefties overhear us saying hang

(gentle piano music) >>> former new york city mayor rudy giuliani was hailed a hero after leading thery after the 9/11 attacks, and now he is facing a litany of legal charges. tonight a revealing look at giuliani's rise and fall. >> there was a time when he got emotional but i never heard him say i'm scared, you know. >> put your mask on. >> some guys get in a position and they step up, and i think that's how he was. >> what's the situation right now? >> the situation is that two airplanes have attacked apparently -- what? all right, let's go north then. >> they might be afraid, but they overcome it because they're trying to help other people. >> joining us now the director of the series, so good to see you, john. >> thanks for having me. >> so what happened to rudy giuliani? that's a question a lot of people have been asking over the past several years. at what point did you decide to dive in and turn this into a series? >> well, i had watched giuliani's trajectory over the years and had always been fascinated in kind of what had become of him and the choices he made. and when i got

to one man, that was rudy giuliani.nt of everybody working to contain the rudy influence and keep him away from the president and yet, the president keeps seeking him out. >> rudy giuliani is not a guy that backs down. rudy doubles down. >> whenever giuliani was on the defensive when he was mayor, his response was to attack. >> i don't remember him ever apologizing saying i shouldn't have said that or i over reacted. >> and you see that throughout the impeachment process. >> catch the cnn original series "giuliani what happened to america's mayor" tonight at 9:00 here on cnn and i will be back with more "newsroom" at 8:00 p.m. eastern. "whose talking to chris wallace" up next. ♪ ♪ >>> welcome back to "whose

this isn't against giuliani. uses his lies as -- you might imagine someone like sean hannity trying to duck here, and say his job is to interview the president's lawyer, and maybe he doesn't know what's true. you can only dodge so much under oath, and let me tell you this in your special report tonight. hannity has come out on this and thrown trump people turned bus, reportedly admitting when it comes to the trump claims on the election lie, i did not believe it for one second. that very newsworthy admission and headline is from this case. hannity forced into that under oath under the same process mr. murdoch is now facing. looks damning. how do we tie this all together tonight? this matters. there might not be one solution or lyric to slum it all up, although in "sly fox", nas warned, what's the fox characteristic? fox relies on the idiot box when this ignorant ish gon stop? end devote. bars. so when sit going to stop? i'll tell you when -- when there are consequences. that's the only way to stop the powerful fr

cnn is looking into how rudy giuliani went from being called america's mayor to now facing a litany ofl troubles surrounding election conspiracies. here's a preview. >> forget paris and forget london and forget everything else. new york city is where it's at. >> i don't know how close giuliani and trump were personally in the 1980s, but i do know they occupied similar spaces. >> they're out of borough guys. one thing they have inherited from their fathers is a certain kind of awe and resentment of manhattan and those rich people. >> giuliani represented every guy that came from the boroughs and came to new york and made it big. >> if you or a person that's looking at a snow globe, if you will, from the outside, even if you end up inside the snow globe, you always feel like an outsider. >> giuliani didn't come from the upper crust establishment. that may have fueled his ambition. did it also contribute to some deep sense of insecurity that he was an outsider? in that maybe he does identify with trump. >> you can watch the new series called giuliani, what happened to america's mayor when

to testify before the grand jury, in august. >> president trump's former lawyer rudy giuliani facedg for six hours before a grand jury in atlanta yesterday. giuliani testifying as a target of the criminal probe looking into possible 2020 election interference there >> we do know that it very likely centered around statements that giuliani made to georgia lawmakers back in 2020, just on the heels of the presidential election, where he came forth and made a number of false claims, and really conspiracy theories about the election here in georgia >> what kind of charges potentially would that mean? >> you know, the da here in fulton county has indicated that this could lead to possible charges ranging from racketeering to possible conspiracy charges >> seth: racketeering makes sense. conspiracy does too, but it might be a harder sell to a jury, because rudy is so bad at conspiracy he literally holds up incriminating texts on tv. [ light laughter ] he meets with shady characters in cigar bars and then takes pictures "remember, fellas, we never had this conversation. now, how about a qui

well, not all of us had 'em. [ laughter ] so much for my resolution to make less fun of rudy giulianill deserve this, especially mccarthy, who was so desperate for power he infamously flew down to mar-a-lago for that embarrassing photo op with donald trump just weeks after the january 6th insurrection remember that? mccarthy did everything he could to cozy up to trump and the maga circus in the house, and he's still facing a revolt from the looniest members of the gop. >> he's, of course, gotten very close to donald trump. he rehabilitated donald trump. i think all of these things were in an effort to be able to, when the moment came to tell these people you can trust me, i'm a conservative, i'm on your side, i'm with the team. >> i think all of those things were explained by him wanting to be able to get the gavel on the first ballot today and if he doesn't, and it's looking increasingly like he won't, this will be the first time we've seen this in our lifetimes. this has only happened once since the civil war, and i think it will badly, badly weaken him. >> seth: did mccarthy think

s office that they are targets, including rudy giuliani, mr. trump's former personal lawyer. . this is fairly mature but also assurance process here that this report exists and it seems like the jury itself voted to release it? >> yes, that was something that was new. judgment bernie said that the grand jurors told him in some form, we're not exactly clear, that they wanted release of the report, and i should point out, everybody's been focused on the raffensperger phone call, and that was clearly are grabbing to a lot of people. trump talks about how raffensperger could face criminal penalties if he does not find votes that trump needs, but it's not just the raffensperger phone call. there is the giuliani testimony where he goes before the state legislator committees and makes all these outrageous crimes about the fulton county, the suitcases of ballots being brought in by the two biden men, and a daughter passed along like drug dealers, none of which has ever been substantiated. the fbi looked at it, they found nothing to it. so false testimony from judy to -- rudy giuliani a

something rudy giuliani denied but a former trump campaign attorney told this to the committee.knowing that if he were lying to the committee that would be a crime and said the campaign's reaction was essentially, wow, a lot of money. we don't know if we are willing to pay that and also learned more from the transcript interview with the committee basically taking the fifth the entire time. someone an architect of the fake elector's scheme and asked, are you listed on a number of emails, took the fifth when it came to that question. last thing learning a little more what the president was unto in days leading up to january 6th. trump called head of the rnc asking what her relationship was like with vice president mike pence. said essentially didn't know him that way. said they didn't recall trump talking to her about this sort of fake electorate scheme then but after the attack on the capitol trump talked to her again, essentially mike pence had authority to intervene that day. >> appreciate the report. bring the conversation back in the room with our great reporters. we see tra

giuliani even backed off some of the plots he thought were too far.that, trump makes the call to the rnc chief, pushing eastman on the line. you don't have to personally link the call. donald trump had already gathered there were people who didn't want to go near john eastman or his coup, so he had to force the call. think about that. the president of the united states, you tell two people to talk to each other. one of them you installed at the rnc. you don't need to link the call. this ain't like the iphone ad caller. it would be funny if it wasn't so serious. he had to do that, because he found people running from eastman. and then remember, again, there's more. eastman tries to get a pardon from trump. why? he's a lawyer. a supreme court clerk. because he knew he did enough that he would need a pardon. this is what the special counsel has on his desk, plus more stuff that might not be public, evidence, intent, the call. what more do you need? we have a federal prosecutor who has built these complex cases. to finish out what we started here, joyce v

>> yeah, it's yet another step in the continuing fall of rudy giuliani.s now been subpoenaed by the special counsel, jack smith, part of the justice department, looking for records related to payments that rudy giuliani received from trump-affiliated political entities. this tells us that the special counsel's investigation is expanding, is getting into financial details. and of course we remember that detail from the january 6th committee that rudy giuliani at one point requested $20,000 per day for his legal services. and so alisyn, i've decided i need to start charging a little bit more. >> yeah, you really do. i don't know what you get but you're worth so much. >> not 20k. >> it ain't 20k. >> elie thank you, for explaining all that. >>> new to n. to cnn, the husband of a missing woman actually searched the internet for "how to dispose of a 115-pound woman's body." how that is reshaping of course the investigation. >> and some encourage news on inflation. online prices are dropping. what this means for you, ahead. i love the confidence. i love that i c

giuliani's associates, mr.dows, umm, members of congress, although it's difficult to distinguish if the members i'm thinking of were involved as we progressed through december. >> the committee learned that the white house counsel's office thought the plan was potentially illegal. >> to be clear, did you hear the white house counsel's office say that this plan to have alternate electors meet and cast votes for donald trump in states that he lost was not legally sound? >> yes, sir. >> and who was present for that meeting, that you remember? >> it was in the office of mr. meadows, mr. giuliani, and a few of giuliani's associates. >> the select committee interviewed several of the fake electors. >> we were just kind of useful idiots at that point. a strong part of me really feels it's just as the road continued, as this failure, failure, failure that that formulated is what do we have on the table. let's just do it. >> we were just useful idiots. that was testimony from robert sinners, testifying in front of the s

federal prosecutors have issued former president trump's personal attorney rudy giuliani a grand juryubpoena as part of an investigation into trump's fundraising efforts after the 2020 election. that's according to multiple news reports citing an unnamed person familiar with the matter. the save america pac raised over $250 million off trump supporters on the false claim the 2020 election results were fraudulent. it's not clear how much of the money trump's lawyers received, but one witness told the house january 6 committee that giuliani ask to be paid $20,000 a day. in georgia, a special grand jury has wrapped up its probe of efforts by former president trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 election. the decision whether to seek an indictment is now in the hands of fulton county district attorney fani willis. since june, the grand jury has heard testimony from dozens of witnesses, including rudy giuliani and south carolina republican senator lindsey graham. in january 2021, trump told george secretary of state brad raffensperger, "i just want to find 11,780 votes" -- the margin

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here's a preview. >>> rudy giuliani is somebody who's talked a great deal about the straight and narrowre. >> rudy needs nurturing. constant nurturing from the women in his life. ♪ >> i think rudy's choice of women shows an interesting paradox in his character. it must be said he really has always gone for smart, accomplished, relatively hard-driving women, but they then have to make their life all about rudy. i think in his personal life as in his professional life, he is the king, and if you don't want to be a courtier, don't let the scepter hit you on the way out. >> and you can catch "giuliani: what happens to america's mayor" when it premieres here tonight right here on cnn. >>> today marks 100 years since the violence at rosewood. what descendants of survivors want the world to know. that's next. the other day...and forgot where she was. you can always spot a first timer. gain flings s with oxi boost and febreze. with fidelity income planning, a dedicated advisor can help you grow and protect your wealth. they'll help you create a flexible strategy designed to balance growth angua

giuliani's highs and lows, including his current legal troubles to his response to september 11th. >t emotional, but i never heard him say he's scared, you know. some guys get in a position, and they step up, and i think that's how he was. >> what's the situation right now? >> the situation is that two airplanes have attacked apparently -- what? let's go north then. >> they might be afraid but they overcome it because they're trying to help other people. >> "giuliani, what happened to america's mayor" airs tonight at 9:00 p.m. and 10:00 p.m. right here on cnn. there's a different way to treat hiv. it's every-other-month, injectable cabenuva. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete, long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month. cabenuva helps keep me undetectable. it's two injections, given by my healthcare provider, every other month. it's one less thing to think about while traveling. hiv pills aren't on my mind. a quick change in my plans is no big deal. don't receive cabenuva if you're allergic to its ingredients or taking certain medicines, which

eastman and giuliani, whatever they once were, they are citizens today. they are human beings in our society. and if they don't face any consequences whatsoever, none of them, then team coup might learn the lesson that, sure, there were some consequences. i don't want to minimize them, because those prosecutions are real. we've reported on them. the sedition trial is a big deal. but what i am telling you here is the bloodless part of the coup, if they learn that's maybe not a big deal because this time it failed, but nobody on that screen went to jail, then that risks turning the failed coup into a practice session. the committee's finishing its work with this exhaustive, meticulous pile of evidence and handing it to the attorney general, literally, the doj has started taking in these files, and we know they asked for them. the committee's basically saying, to attorney general garland, don't you see what's here? yes. lady justice is supposed to be blind, as i've told you, because she personifies a kind of a judge weighing the evidence on the scale without

. >> rudy giuliani is not a guy that backs down. rudy doubles down. >> whenever giuliani was on the defensive when he was mayor, his response was to attack. >> i don't remember him ever apologizing saying i shouldn't have said that or i over reacted. >> and you see that throughout the impeachment process. >> catch the cnn original series "giuliani what happened to america's mayor" tonight at 9:00 here on cnn and i will be back with more "newsroom" at 8:00 p.m. eastern. "whose talking to chris wallace" up next. ♪ ♪ >>> welcome back to "whose talking." my guests tonight both turned opportunities into tv empires starting with a so-called ring master of pop culture, andy cohen. you don't want to miss his hot take on prince harry and why discussing the "real housewives" got him hot under the collar. >> what do you want to say to me about that, chris? >> talk about defensive. >> i am defensive. >> and barefoot contessa herself. how she almost passed on the biggest break of her life. >> i said lose my number. i didn't think anybody would w

. >>> rudy giuliani has been subpoenaed as part of a grand jury investigation into the former u.s. president's fundraising right after he lost the 2020 election, that's according to a source familiar with the investigation. the special counsel has asked giuliani to turn over records about payments he received around that time when he filed numerous lawsuits on trump's behalf. this shows that prosecutors are following the money as part of their sweeping sfleegs trump's efforts to overturn his election loss. and that's not the only grand jury trump has to worry about. another in the atlanta area has finished investigating whether the former president and his allies broke the law when they medaled with georgia's election results. sara murray has the story. >> reporter: a special grand jury investigating donald trump and his allies to overturn the investigation has wrapped up its worth as of monday. the judge signed an order dissolving a special grand jury that convened for over a year. what set all of this off is trump's call to brad raffensperger asking him to just find the votes for

where they go up higher to eastman, giuliani, trump himself, really depends on her appetite for takingorts of complications, attorney/client, first amendment rights, and we could end up disappointed, if you will, in a low-level indictment, or we could be interested to see he takes this all the way up to eastman, perhaps even trump. >> now, of course, there's a pending decision on whether the judge releases the report from the special grand jury. i should note news organizations are arguing there's public interest in knowing this. you, as a lawyer, argue that could damage a case. >> in a case like this, you want to keep pretrial publicity as limited as you can. it affects things like venue u. where will the trial take place? if there's too much publicity in fulton county, the lawyer will try to move it. you don't want indicted co-conspirators smeared by the report. if they're named in the report, but not indicted, they have no way the protecting their reputation, and we just want this case to proceed without any possible interference with the early release of a report where there's no n

since june, the grand jury has heard testimony from dozens of witnesses, including rudy giuliani andouth carolina republican senator lindsey graham. in january 2021, trump told george secretary of state brad raffensperger, "i just want to find 11,780 votes" -- the margin he would have needed to defeat joe biden in georgia. meanwhile, a federal judge in new york has delayed the unsealing of a deposition given by trump in a lawsuit accusing him of defamation. former magazine columnist e. jean carroll has accused trump of raping her in the 1990's. which the former has denied. the lawsuit will be heard today by the u.s. court of appeals for the district of columbia, where trump's lawyers will argue presidents can't be personally sued for statements made while in office. in california, community advocates are demanding justice keenan anderson, a black father and high school english teacher, who was killed by los angeles police on january 3. anderson was tased, tackled to the pavement, held down and restraint at the ankles. anderson was then taken to the hospital where he died of a cardiac