we had giuliani voters and supporters in the room. critical of what rudy had said and what he had done in the days and weeks after the shooting, and he was furious. he starts yelling at me and pointing to me telling me that this was a waste of his time. that it taught him nothing, that these people are misinformed. they don't understand this is what's wrong with the press. and then he stops and says i just need you to understand. i've seen cops accused mistakenly. i've seen cops, careers destroyed. but these cops risk their life every day and someone needs to understand them to rudy giuliani basically asked the city to shut up and go away. >> he his whole political strategy was us against them. >> and the city exploded the rest of mark rutte it enrages the black leaders of the city. >> now giuliani is rocked on his heels because he has no relationship with any of them. >> this is outright slaughter. if he was facing a firing squad, he would not have been shot at 41 times, mark emmert sharpton was an albatross around giuliani's neck, a

, our next mayor. >> come on over and say hi to rudy giuliani. give me a gift all right? >> i believe him. and i'm all for him. >> i like the way he's talking rudy was an attleboro guy not too handsome, not too tall, a little crabby maybe sometimes a little loopy in what he said. >> that was good. >> done right. mistakes have been made. sure i'm a democrat who has. i'm a laguardia republican. i get a lot of criticism for my haircut. >> why do you want to be mayor? >> well, this is a great city. it's a city i love. i was born here. i've grown up here, gone to school here. i think the city is in terrible trouble. more murders last year than ever before. the drug problem out of control. >> rudy giuliani is presenting himself as the guy who can get things done, who's proven that he can get things done as a prosecutor, as a figure around new york who wants to turn the city around, i'm going to be running against the acknowledged past of new york city, and i represent the future of new york city. >> who can reduce crime better? who can get the drug pro

giuliani launched into an outburst, and he told the judge, and i'm quoting rudy giuliani now, "the implicationot been diligent about it is totally incorrect. everything i have is tied up. i don't have a car. i don't have a credit card. i don't have cash. i can't get my bank account that would truly be mine because they have put stop orders on, for example, my social security account, which they have no right to do. they put stop orders on my business account. i can't pay my bills. >> seth: so, it sounds like it's going pretty good. [ laughter ] "i don't have a car, i don't have a credit card, i don't have cash, i dot even have bottom teeth." these sketches are incredible. he looks like the third guy who got cut from the "the creation of adam." [ laughter ] like he's in an animated kids movie, and he's about to eat hansel and gretel. >> i'm looking at you and i'm gonna get you! [ laughter ] >> seth: it's a turbulent time in our politics. the country is narrowly divided, both parties are fighting amongst themselves, and there's going to be a lot of stress to come. but for now, i hope your thanks

can we get someone like giuliani?d not happen in new york today. >> i would love to not smell pot -- >> tom: every town, usa. >> jessica: no, he wasn't. >> dr. saphier: this proposition 36 was passed overwhelming majority, gavin newsom didn't want it. do you think this speaks to any sort of the future of gavin newsom in california? because he seems out of touch with what californians are wanting right now. >> jessica: my understanding of why governor newsom didn't end up backing prop 36 as he had some proposals he had put through, put out himself, and there were a couple poison pills in prop 36 that he didn't want to sign up for around the prison system. now that -- he should've come out and explained that to the public that that was the reasoning for it. this was something that was overwhelmingly popular. my sister lives out in the los angeles area, has a lot of friends who are not political at all, and they knew everything about this race. they knew about nathan hoffman, the new d.a. out there, who is a conservative

new york city set with rudy giuliani and now people look oh, we aren't going to talk about him. was running around with my head shots, it was a dangerous people. people said it's unworkable, we can't get our subways back, or have safe streets. got to go home when the sun sets. giuliani came in and they called him a nazi, they called him a fascist, and he had, his police commissioner, bratton, and they were putting him on the cover of magazines and everyone was protesting. it's terrible and they brought crime down and then everybody in all of the neighborhoods, the high tone neighborhoods, the tough neighborhoods, they all said, this works. you can control a city and they made fun of the squeegee thing. you're going to arrest squeegee men, your broken windows theory? it all worked. when you commit to it and you enforce crime, then you have a livable city and people are going to have to start learning that again. can we go back to someone like giuliani because politically, it couldn't happen in new york today but maybe we're getting there. >> i would like to not smell pot everywhe

so they're rudy giuliani famously so, you're more likely to get mercy of the president if you're close to the president, you have money and you have power meanwhile, as i talk about in the book, the exoneration by judges of people that have miscarriages of justice are disproportionately for people of color. i mean, we have all these other myths, miscarriages of justice within, our criminal system, the pardons not fixing them at all. if we have issues with that, it's really about mercy. we should reforming the system, you know, the rules, the standard, the appeals, habeas, things like that. not assume the president is going to somehow like the king make sure that know you're not it's not trial by fire. and if you die. then you know, you die in a in a dispute, a before there was a jury trial, for example, king might have to come in and i talk about a case in the 13th century where a little girl a year old girl by mistake, pushed her into boiling water and the brother died. and without the pardon, she would have had some pretty harsh punishment. we have a system now that it didn't improve

i think rudy giuliani is in for a lot of trouble.sbarred from the practice of law in two states. i don't see him ever stepping foot into a courtroom anytime soon other than as a defendant. >> to that end, about how the enablers are being held accountable, joyce, we know that fani willis has been taken off of the case she was prosecuting against trump down in georgia but it is not just trump, it is trump and 14 allies and she is appealing that woman that has taken her off the case. what do you think is going to happen there, joyce? it is a vast criminal conspiracy case and it involves a number of people. how do you see the road ahead for fani willis in the state of georgia? >> this is a case that is proceeding in georgia state courts, not federal court. the dynamics are a little bit different. it is very likely the georgia supreme court will affirm the ruling removing willis from the case. if that happens, this case will then be reassigned to another georgia prosecutor. there's a little bit of a precedent for this. early on in the cas

rudy giuliani can't practice law in new york.appen and what message does it send to other potential trump allies and stooges who may want to carry out more of his unlawful plans? >> as you said, i think there is a real fear for the enablers. the supreme court did nothing to protect them and factor in oral arguments you had several justices talking about the fact we can give immunity to the president because there are other people who would be helping him and they don't have any consequences. that would be a way of deterring presidents from acting. i don't think the argument holds any water, but that's one they seem to be drawing some kind of bright line at least in arguments about the fact these enablers could be held accountable. i think you're going to see it. there are other actions in arizona, michigan, wisconsin with respect to the fake electors. you have rudy giuliani who defamed election workers in georgia and is being held accountable for that despite the fact in many courts he's continue to act what seems to me incomplet

giuliani in that moment, probably stood -- still had a scintilla of rationality left and said i don't donald trump wants us to go. and that's the problem that the rest of us have to contend with it's the fact that these people are now being offered up positions of power and authority, over our government, to use our institutions of justice and the rule of law against those who only did their job, as constitutionally ordered with respect to january 21st, january 6th in 2021 and of course the election of 2020 itself. so, you know, i don't know how else we cut this. this is like a brown paper wrapping, it is so plain, it is so obvious what it is and yet, we still have people out here thinking that pam bondi is going to be the best kind of attorney general for us, and kash patel is going to be a great fbi director and so forth, no, they are not there for us, they are there for donald trump, period, and we need to understand that and know the consequences that come from it. >> rick. >> i agree with everything that's been said. week leaders price loyalty, strong leaders want diversity, stro

you can be sued civilly for any actions, as we know rudy giuliani was successfully was and so was donaldy e. jean carroll and letitia james. so all of that could take place. pardon for federal criminal law does not protect you from any civil liability, also doesn't protect you from state criminal charges. so again, there still are guardrails even if the president was to be so bold as to say destroy all evidence and i'll just pardon you for any of those crimes. there still are various levers that would help protect the rule of law in that scenario. >> i want to read what adam kinzinger, another republican member of the january 6th committee, said about donald trump's comments in that interview. he said, "our hearings laid bare the reality this was no spontaneous protest. it was an assault on the foundations of our democracy, encouragement embedded by the former president himself. history will remember the january 6th committee as defenders of democracy and you as a man who betrayed it. you may fool some of the people some of the time, but the tide is turning. it just may take a bit. i'm c

you mentioned giuliani. brandon johnson is the mayor now who took over for lori lightfoot. crime taken care of. maria: let's take a break and come rights back. the buy sense assassination is s shrugging off concerns over mysterious drones flying over the northeast. house foreign affairs committee chairman michael mccall says it's other biggest adversary who is behind them, china. tommy tuberville will weigh in when we come back. you're watching "mornings with maria." stay with us. ♪ when you're in the military you're really close with your brothers and your sisters that are in the military with you. and when you get out of the military, you kind of lose that until you find a new family. we can talk about our struggles and the things that we did overseas and not everybody can do that. adam! how's it going, brother? we live pretty close to each other. so he's always coming over. when i go to jack's house, we watch a lot of football, hang out. we go outside the friendship has kind of grown into a family i was overseas on a deployment. i got separated from my marines and i got

this is exactly what giuliani is offering and what he's been doing for the last six years. will he hold to that? i don't know, but he has held to that for the last six years. he has not conducted any international attacks. and while he's on our list, believe me, we are extremely assiduous in taking out terrorists all around the middle east. we haven't touched anybody in his movement for many years and that shows you how we really think about it and you know when you served as u.s. >> special representative for syria and as special envoy as well, i believe it was from 2018 to 2020. um correct me if i'm wrong there, but but can you characterize the difference between where we are right now and sort of what the picture was back in 2018? because some might be looking at this and say, well, this seems like a major stalemate that's been broken. and in a week the rebel forces have advanced and taken all these cities. and here we are at the at the beginning of a potential new chapter in this country. but obviously, the civil war spans back over a decade at this point to just after

there's no immunity for rudy giuliani, boris epshteyn, the sidney powells, all of these other, you knownt, what they did was terrible, and they should be held to account, and even though doj isn't going to do it, the state prosecutors can. we have ongoing state prosecutions in arizona, and in georgia. there are based on my reading of the indictment, the federal prosecutors could be referring out to states in michigan and pennsylvania, potential charges against rudy giuliani. i mean, it's laid out very clearly here that there is more that could come, and i'm sure they've built their own cases but jack smith built an airtight case here. he had a lot of evidence that we don't even know, you know, scratch the surface and seen in the indictment. share it. there's a way you can get orders federally to share the evidence with the state. let them use it and go after these coconspirators with appropriate charges. >> we need to see it. absolutely. share it. two words. share it. kristy greenberg, thank you so much as always for being with us. >>> don't go anywhere, folks, there's another hour of t

i don't know if giuliani is completely sincere. i do believe that we as a people, syrians, and syrians in the diaspora as well, have come to know each other in a way that we didn't necessarily know each other before, and that might allow for the protection of that pluralism to, not from above, but actually from a society itself. >> to arias point, let me ask you, if i can, about the remnants of the regime. yes, assad and his family ruled syria, but it was a system in place. how do you began to hold that system accountable or are you going to need some of that system in order to preserve the state's ability to function, just in the immediate short term? and to pick up on another point, are you confident that somebody like giuliani can lead a transition in syria or would you want to see somebody else emerge? >> yeah, i mean, first part of your question comes to accountability. as arianna mentioned, a lot of organizations have worked on documentation of violations in syria, so, there is a lot of work that has been done already, and i

look at rudy giuliani, the lives that rudy giuliani destroyed and the cost of it to those women. and now the financial cost to rudy giuliani. the lies, repeated, over and over again. and one of those lies lies at the center of the guy that wants to be the next director of the fbi. and what are you hearing on the hill from senate republicans? are there four senate republicans that will say, maybe it's not a good idea that we put a guy in charge of the fbi who says he's going to shut, building on day one he's going to arrest journalists and reporters that didn't follow lies in conspiracy theories about the 2020 election. and he has an enemies list and has promised to persecute those on his enemies list. >> first, the 2000 mules has been debunked now. the book version had to be detracted and reedited. the publisher has apologized and halted distributional of the book. he himself apologized and said the film is based on inaccuracies. it's wrong, every way about it, from the start. and you're right, there are real consequences here for innocent people. but cash patel, at least so far,

giuliani that he will come to that but he will come to that later because he has to feed his people. get security. he has to disarm armed groups. there are so many different things are the two most important things for him are the ending -- the ending of sanctions and receiving some legitimacy. hts is a prescribed terror group by most of the world. it associated in the past with al qaeda and for some time the islamic state group. it broke with those ties a long time ago and has since about 2016 and onwards has been building a ministate in the north of the country at has run that fairly effectively. it is an islamist state. it is very conservative. that has many people here and elsewhere in syria worried about what his vision for the new syrian state would be so there are many different factors at play but the key issue looking from damascus would be the ending of sanctions and some legitimacy being conferred on this regime so they can get on with the business of rebuilding syria and welcoming people home. >> a quick final one. in that interview pettersen has given to the bbc does men

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while giuliani tries and pull the government together. as i said the other day, you know, whenever you mention the two words, regime change, you're going to have a lot of chaos right after the the statues are pulled down and people are firing celebratory gunfire in the streets. that's what we're seeing right now. >> and often as we see that chaos, you see the attempts by foreign governments, perhaps to influence what happens and to and to seek opportunity to that point. do you think that recep erdogan sees this moment as a chance to hurt those kurdish rebels in the north? should we expect more from turkey and its fighters in the region, and more aggression towards the kurds yeah, all all of that is happening. >> plus, you add to that the israeli strikes that have occurred over the last two days, 350 strikes by israel against key ammunition and naval targets of syria to ensure that they don't come back. but getting back to the turkish piece, yeah, i think you're going to see that having spent a little bit of time in northern iraq and see h

i would note, it's not a federal case, but rui giuliani rudy giuliani will be held in court today.sn't turned over his assets. he can't practice law in new york. what do you think will happen there and what message does this send to other potential trump allies and stooges he might want to carry more out of his unlawful plans? >> as you said, i think there's real fear for the enablers because the supreme court did nothing to protect them in factoring in oral arguments that had several justices talking about, well, we could give immunity to the president because there's these other presidents, they would be helping him. there wouldn't be consequences so that would be a way to deter presidents from acting. i don't think that the argument holds any water but it's when they seem to be drawing some kind of line in their arguments about the fact that these enablers could be held accountability. yes, i don't think we will see this in georgia but there are other actions. in arizona, michigan, wisconsin with respect to the fake electors. you do have really giuliani who defamed election work

would we still be talking about him today if he looked like rudy giuliani? i don't think so.is, america is obsessed with image, and images in our society can dictate public opinion. and while we wait to hear about the suspect's motive, people are mentioning his history of health issues which -- >> michael: hey, stop! stop laughing at this! why am i in that photo? why am i 400 pounds and covered in chili? that sucks. >> michael, it's not personal. it's just a comparison. it makes me look hotter. but like i was saying, there was a manifesto and mangione does seem to have a serious problem with the healthcare system. >> michael: no, ronny -- dude! what! ronny! why do i have a thought bubble that says "i pee sitting down?" and you're not even in that photo! this sucks! >> of course i'm not in the photo! why would i associate myself with a loser who pees sitting down? >> michael: get out of here, ronny. ronny chieng, everyone. [cheers and applause] when we come back, we find out who won awards season. so don't go away. [cheers and applause] the polar vortex is bringing a lot of sn

giuliani did not have a political position in idlib. he was leading from behind.is political role a bit more now that he's in damascus.— bit more now that he's in damascus. . , ., damascus. that is the other ma'or damascus. that is the other major challenge, _ damascus. that is the other major challenge, that - damascus. that is the other major challenge, that it's i damascus. that is the other l major challenge, that it's now a patchwork of different rebel forces, some of them controlling territory. how hard is not going to be to meld them together in a cohesive force? is not going to be to meld them together in a col it's ie force? is not going to be to meld them together in a col it's what :e? is not going to be to meld them together in a col it's what he behind. perhaps it's what he wanted to do, although i suspect he would have to formalise this political role a bit more now that he's in damascus.— bit more now that he's in damascus. . , ., damascus. that is the other ma'or damascus. that is the other major challenge, _ damascus. that is the other major chall

who could have seen that coming, other than matt gaetz, mike pence, rudy giuliani, michael cohen, and trump has ever come into contact with. hey, anyone heard from herman cain lately? he's dead. google it. and maybe one of the reasons why pete hegseth can't seem to extinguish this dumpster fire of his nomination is because more people keep throwing garbage into the dumpster. >> yesterday, new allegations of excessive drinking also emerging about the decorated combat veteran. nbc news spoke with ten current and former fox news employees who worked with hegseth on one of the network's morning shows and say the former cohost drank in ways that concerned them. two saying on more than a dozen occasions, they smelt alcohol on hegseth before he went on air. >> ronny: okay, before you judge, yes, his show starts at 6:00 in the morning. but he was still drinking from the night before, okay? so it's not sad, it's awesome. i will say, it's weird that we're arguing about the drinking. because even if he was stone cold sober, he's a tv host who ran two veterans organizations into the ground. he's

so the pressure to do something, was there on the other hand, and giuliani, who's the leader of the infamous group. i have to have, these are some h t s called the liberation front for, for, for syria. and as long as group that was running, controlling the m a read was still controlling the internet. and ad lib felt that they might be thrown on the bus by rapprochement between turkey and to syria. so in order to make sure that they still have a ball in the game, they want it to be tracked if they wanted to show the military strength instance and show that then they haven't become irrelevant. and also, of course, they wanted to show to his own fights as that they have still as a powerful military group. and if you, if you are a military group, you have to wait wage will every now and then every couple of years. and so they were quite, i think, impressed by their own success. now the question is, to what extent did the turkish government allow this to happen, or to what extent was it itself a bit surprised by the success of the a box? that's right, because of the atx group, which you're talkin

. >> do you think you should pardon giuliani for going goblin mode 24 sevenths?ode? >> just looks like a goblin. >> i think he is really disgusting. he shouldn't be pardon of anything. >> the crime is actually disgusting. it is heinous. murder varied 100 people. the conversation about how love is actually conditional -- >> really? >> let's play [bleep], marry, pardon be as big of nonshaman? >> oof. >> oof. >> and you can't [bleep] them all. >> eric adams. >> he could watch this, you could have a chance. >> you could put your finger and make him squirm. >> okay, i will marry donald trump. you know what, i think i would live a good life. >> i'm going to marry eric adams. >> interesting choice. >> just so that i can play mind games with him. >> love it. >> gaslight, gatekeeper, girl boss. >> being in the city of new york, i guess i will pardon adams? >> congratulation. youyou are [bleep] the qanon shaman. >> i forgot about that. >> no, you didn't. >> if you get it pardon for one crime, what would it be? >> arson. >> that was a really quick answer. >> i like fire. >>

the group is fairly new, so it was formed or re branded in 2017 by album, harmonic giuliani. but it's an off spring of a more radical group of which existed since 2011. the beginning of the syrian civil war is your part that most right. and that group did have ties to al qaeda. it is a very interesting concoction here because um, on the one hand, this group is preaching. and so offi is why i'm so that that's a sony branch of his when the radical is some of the other hand, according to the gilani himself, he wants to unite all the opposition and he doesn't want any secretary. and while it's in or the to challenge the assad government, that being said, the screw has been put on the foreign terrorist organizational list by the united states in 2018 because they are the things it cover. it really works with the old guy that even if it's over at lee denounced the whole kind and the rest at some of the fighters and it was in the blue link to kind of in the united states. you as president joe biden has pardoned his son, spearing him a possible prison term under bite and was facing s

and where, where is a guarantee that giuliani and his affiliates will be able to keep that in control where it guarantees that there will be no insight between all of these groups. uh how we can be sure that the uh, you know, the new government tradition, government will not get back to a secretary. it's like they're in politics and practices. how to make sure that israel not advancing because now it's not on the air strikes as a back, like we mentioned him and tanks and the ground forces moving. i mean, they're already in the way to probably ins, parts of the province, which was my minorities living. and they are advancing and they being destroyed and not only military sites, but even besides with information with an electrical centers. me personally, i have no uh, kind of a positive uh, happiness you know, for, for what lies ahead. that means a very hard road with a lot of its, with a lot of, uh, possible scenarios, uh and with a high degree of us. so the disposition in kaos was the, are glad that aside regime is gone, but of course we will see now what comes next then. uh, 2 things

states and britain, they're very anxious about because they don't think that of them or how much the giuliani has changed his skin or these ideology or his views. but at the same time here is the, the united states is also the live that, that what has happened in the past few days is a major setback quote, you wrong ad for rush. and that's exactly what anthony blinked and said the few days ago, it does a great deal about the use that these acropolis and the research on trauma trump smote to about you. yeah, he made it very clear which tells you a great deal about these races. and you said there was nothing in c a except that's and dust the desk and dust. and he pushed a huh. to pull out the $500.00 american forces from syria and it was an asia basically in fighting between himself and his defense minister, which he resigned as a result of that. so i don't expect any major role of the americans because they americans have so much on that plate as you know, in gaza at your, on a china of ukraine. what have you really at the end of the day, what we're going to see is here in the next few days, n

as far rudy and rudy giuliani and trump kind of like michael cohen and trump, there were there some confusion around which parts of that relationship were covered and not covered by the attorney client privilege. but that's basically the test that if you jot it down and go back to those questions, those factual questions you're wondering about, you could noodle through whether the privilege would apply or not. dennis in ohio, line for independence. good morning, dennis. good morning, everyone. you know, it's sad that the whole system has been perverted and corrupted, turned upside down inside and out. the presidency of donald trump showed americans that anything can be corrupted when it's not fair, balanced and equal across the board for everyone. just want to leave this question with those who are listening. if barack obama had it done and committed to same acts and crimes that donald trump committed and we know he committed would democrats, independents and republicans feel the same way about the system? would it be this or we overlook this? i truly believe that he would have been dealt wit

all he, he went and asked for a rudy giuliani to intercede with donald trump for a pardon and julia on a $1.00 to $2000000.00. it's illegal, but you know, so that gives you an idea that, you know, the united states likes to point the finger at rushes at all. your corrupt a man. we do look at the mirror, the, the crux it over on the side of the wall. the ocean is, is, is, uh, okay, you know, equals anything in other countries that we try to accuse others of doing. people have shown that already started i during the presidential race, mr. trump as directed to take legal action against he's the critics. do you think that's something that he might actually follow through? well well, yeah, i know he should not. well, if, if, if he goes after critics, then, then he's being as bad as that, which of what was done to him up the, i think there are legitimate cases to be brought against people for abuse of the judicial process and frivolous prosecutions. you know, look to the so called deep state they were, they were very much committed to trying to destroy donald trump and prevent him from becom

trump is r canning issuing a wave of preemptive pardons for family members and allies like rudy giulianind potentially a self-portanova don. do you think the pardons are appropriate and would they be legal? >> i don't think they're appropriate at all. this individual, mr. trump, flaunted the law on a continual basis and whatever happens ought to be done by a justice department decision. liz: that was mark warner and cnn jake tapper talking about trump not being able to do preemptive pardons for family members or allies. politico reports that president biden is getting lobbied hard by democrats and white house aids to do preemptive pardons for adam schiff, liz cheney, anthony fourth qufauci. we have nicole malliotakis and a very merry christmas to you, congresswoman. great to see you. why seek preemptive pardons if they did nothing wrong? >> exactly. speaking to the whistle blowers coming to us and influence peddling scheme coming to us with the biden household and within this family and that's why you saw hunter biden receive that pardon and receiving special treatment and the president

. >> steve: mayor adams hsz opportunity to follow in the footsteps of mayor rudy giuliani. when you are walking around on streets of new york city because of migrant crime, which is substantial these days, it impacts everybody and impacts decisions am i going to the doctor's office today by myself? do i feel safe? am i going to go to the grocery store? the lady down the hall got robbed. if mayor adams turns it around, he could be a great mayor. >> brian: talk about a movie clint eastwood did, they used real-life heroes in it, terror attack happened on a train in france. knives everywhere and start the stabbing everyone. vet veterans got up and took care of it. thises veteran was recognized for hero ic activities. when he saw the danielle penny situation happen, he gets hailed a hero, he is fighting for freedom, he wrote a column and joined us earlier. you convict this guy, it is going to be downward spiral for this country. watch. >> it is going to scare people into action and i don't think that is just in this case, not just in subways, not in dealing with people out of co

i think the three of us lived through america's mayor, rudy giuliani. >> you saw what happened.ter week after week that he was mayor through his crime, policies, lower taxes, he re-built and remade new york. it was revived in an amazing way. what is sad now they are back to the same policies that ruined new york and bankrupted new york in the first place. they will never learn. >> steve moore, tammy bruce, great points. thank you for being with us. >> greg: we are less than a month away from donald trump taking control of the nation's immigration policy, some democrats are doing everything they can to stand in his way. in oregon the attorney-general put together a document explaining the state's sanctuary policies, telling residents to make a plan for what to do if immigration officials come to your plan or place of business. let me give you a tip. just cooperate. in california governor gavin newsom's office is putting together plans for a "immigrant support network to actively fight back against depor deportations." so what can be done about the liberal leaders trying to stop t

republicans like rudy giuliani was an enthusiastic supporter of new york city being a sanctuary city was that law enforcement should be able to work with people, good people who are here undocumented and they will tell you what's going on in their neighborhood. it's true. the point of sanctuary cities was never to protect criminals. it was so that good people -- why are you looking at me like that? >> judge jeanine: if you're going to work with law enforcement, you're not going to be deported. i gave them to people all the time. that's an excuse. >> jessica: okay. talk to republicans who have supported the policy then. i'm not even saying anything bad this time. i think you could tweak the law. eric adams is obviously motivated as well by his own future. he has these indictments, wants a pardon from soon-to-be president trump round two, that's what happens, he sees that andrew cuomo may be getting into this mayoral race which would be difficult for him and you see other democrats seizing the moment, like richie torres, the congressman has been going after kathy hochul and making the

. >> rudy giuliani suffered same spying, he didn't know until well after. had access to his records and e-mails about the laptop he was looking at in 2020. and they never gave an excuse other than there was a pfizer investigation -- fisa investigation that came to nothing. larry: caroline downey. talk about some other nominations also, but on this particular nomination, and kash patel is doing well. you have to ask yourself, how stupid are they? really, this is -- i mean i know fbi saga, miranda has written brilliantly about it this is an abuse of power. also i think politics. it is left versus right, they don't like conservatives. >> we saw this with how fbi targeted parents as domestic terrorists for daring to criticize radical activists. there is a decent on what to do with fbi, my colleague said it is corrupted because it has transformed its from just a law enforcement agency to a arm of the intelligence community, it was never part of the original mandate, charlie cook said dism dismantle the fbi, it is interesting derangement syndrome with kash patel,

the sources steve bannon and rudy giuliani. >> i don't know anything about it.king this one at the hottest most important issues for your allies. this is an important issue. >> it is an important issue to find out whether a man is corrupt running for president and who has accepted money from china and from ukraine and from russia. i think that is an important issue. >> all he said is -- >> it is incredible how you try to say this incident there and look me me in the ai and say he accepted money, his family, from russia, from ukraine, from chin, and other places. his brother they didn't have the experience was a big builder in iraq with t without expanse and take a look what is going on, leslie. and you say that should not be discussed? that is the biggest scandal out there met, leslie. this is a mission to campaign on? >> i think it is one of the biggest scandals i have ever seen in you don't cover it. you want to talk about -- >> it can be verified. i'm telling you. >> of course it can be verified. excuse me, they found a laptop, listen, leslie. >> john: the fb

ford, what happened to the two poll workers, to giuliani, sicked the flying monkeys off the far rightterrorizing aspect to what happens when you come forward, and see that's the best they've got is to try to make witnesses go away on the theory they'll be terrorized and have their lives ruined if they tell the truth. that's no way to run a nomination hearing. >> senator, i'd like to squeeze in a commercial break here. when we come back, i'd like to talk about a big and important report that came out from the senate judiciary committee about misconduct as the report describes it. we'll be right back with senator whitehouse. k with senator whitehouse did you know... 80% of women are struggling with hair damage? just like i was. dryness and frizz could be damaged hair that can't retain moisture. new pantene miracle rescue deep conditioner, with first-of-its-kind melting pro-v pearls... locks in moisture to repair 6 months of damage in one wash, without weigh down. guaranteed or your money back! for resilient, healthy-looking hair... if you know, you know it's pantene. z's bakery is looki

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. >> yeah, and rudy giuliani suffered this same spying by the warrant and he didn't know till well after his records and e-mails alaska the laptop that he was looking at in 2020. and they never really gave an excuse other than there was some sort of pfizer information that came to nothing. larry: caroline downey, i think kash is doing very well and i think he'll be confirmed, but you have to ask yourself how stupid are they? really, i mean i know this fbi saga and miranda wrote brilliantly about it and we've talked about it before. it's an abuse of power but it's also i think politics. it's left versus right and they don't like conservatives. >> of course, and we saw that with how the fbi targeted parents as domestic terrorists for daring to criticize radical obscene curriculum and k-12 schooschools and disproportionay violent raids and that was heavily leaning on the conservative side. there's a bit of dissent in national review about what to do with the fbi and that's interesting because andy mccarthy, my colleague, said it's corrupted because it's transformed itself from a law enforce

when they know perfectly well for having see what happened to doctor ford, the two poll workers who giulianithe flying monkees of the far right onto. there is a really terrorizing aspect to what happens when you come forward so that is the best they got, to try to make witnesses go away on the theory they will be terrorized and have their lives ruined if they tell the truth. that is no way to run a nomination hearing. >> senator i would like to squeeze in a commercial break, when we come back i want to talk about the other again important report that came out today from the judiciary committee about the supreme court's culture of misconduct as the report describes it. we will be right back with senator sheldon whitehouse. . >>> the supreme court has allowed a culture of misconduct to metastasize to a full-blown crisis that has driven public opinion of the court to historic lows. that scathing line is the first finding of the senate judiciary committee report titled a investigation into the ethics challenge at the supreme court, the 93 page report completed 20 month investigation by the senat

washington post," lays out how deep the involvement went including how she was involved turning rudy giuliani on. it brought disbarment and financial ruin to the former mayor of new york. in the days after the election bondi was in pennsylvania on tv pushing the unfounded allegations of cheating and fake ballots. >> we need to fix this. we need to remedy this now. we won pennsylvania and we want every vote to be counted in a fairway. >> we do have evidence of cheating and i will talk about that in a minute. we are still on the ground in pennsylvania and we are not going anywhere until they declare we won pennsylvania. that means all of the good residents supporting us in pennsylvania their votes don't count by the fake ballots coming in late. >> while she did not speak she was reportedly spotted helping to set up the four seasons landscaping press conference where he continued to falsely claim that trump won the election. bondi remained involved in the background throughout the whole period to the point that cassidy hutchinson talked about how bondi tried to influence her testimony. pam texte

rudy giuliani lost his case against friedman and moss so you have a litany of losses going back to thesweep. in many ways the idea they will be seeking a case against liz cheney, we have seen years of trump trying to avoid the january 6th trial. so i think a lot of this will be, it remains to be seen whether they want that trial or just the fear. >> the chilling effect. >> and there is a converse warming effect if he pardons the head of the oath keepers. it's a suggestion you fight for trump, you get off the hook. >> that in many ways is even worse. that is, we do have some news about to become president who has 34 felony convictions. and so, it shouldn't be surprising he is running on the lawlessness and the idea of pardoning not just the lower level january 6th people who trespassed, that's bad enough. it wasn't like it was a trespass with no purpose. >> they weren't at the museum late night. >> couldn't have put it better. >> a new york reference. >> but to be serious, we are talking about people who deliberately injured not just our democracy, but actual law enforcement officers wh

rudy giuliani lost his case against shea freeman and ruby freeman and shea moss.o, you have litany of losses that of course going back to fraud in the election where it was almost a sweep. so, in many ways, the idea that they actually are going to be seeking an indictment or a several case against liz cheney and january 6th committee, we have spent years with donald trump trying to avoid the january 6th trial. >> yeah. >> so, you know, think a lot of this will be remains to be seen whether they really want that trial or whether they want as you pointed, the fear of the brush back of bringing the lawsuit. >> chilling effects. >> exactly. >> converse warming effect if he pardons someone like stuart rhodes a suggestion that you fight for trump, you are going to get off the hook. >> that in many ways is even worse because that is like we do have someone about to become president with 34 felony convictions. and so, it shouldn't be surprising that he is running on sort of lawlessness. and, the idea of pardoning not just the lower level of january 6th people who trespass

it is less likely something like this happens but that was the rudy giuliani approach has it been trashed. quickly wake up this morning and find out these commutations by the biden administration -- mckay was lee biden is not competent enough to get these things. somebody in his administration is trying to what is at 37 of the commutations involved violent criminals the worse of the worst. what is that about? >> it's about an agenda of the in the biden administration part he is not in charge of this. the pardon process always has a lot of players in it for any president. the review by the justice department. but this is an agenda that they need to drive forward. it's not just about the contradictions in 1993 joe biden, the crime bill in where he is today this is an agenda. if you look at the people he is either commuting or pardoning the first 39, 1499 commutations, look for who is in there. ask use ask yourself as anyone who is competent sit there? no matter what they had belief in it that input from a proper justice department would you commute or pardoning someone for instance kidnappe

blasey ford, what happened to the two poll workers who giuliani sicced the flying monkeys of the faro, i mean there is a really terrorizing aspect to what happens when you come forward and so that's the best they've got is to try to make witnesses go away on the theory that they'll be terrorized and have their lives ruined if they tell the truth. that's no way to run a nomination hearing. >> senator, i'd like to squeeze in a commercial break here. when we come back, i want to talk about the other big and important report that came out today from the senate judiciary committee about the supreme court's cult of misconduct as the report describes it. >>> we'll be right back with senator sheldon whitehouse. and i'm keeping the weight off. i'm reducing my risk. wegovy® is the only weight-management medicine proven to reduce risk of major cardiovascular events such as death, heart attack, or stroke in adults with known heart disease and obesity. don't use wegovy® with semaglutide or glp-1 medicines, or in children under 12. don't take if you or your family had mtc, men 2, or if allergic to

imaginative rudy giuliani, when he was mayor, was harboring russian hackers on the lower east side, ande russian hackers and he was just allowing russian hackers to work and commit crimes from their little apartment down on the lower -- no! that would never happen because they are spanish and they are gang bangers, somehow -- it is no different at all. can we put up the picture of the meeting between homan and adams for a second? my sources inside city hall stay home and sat down and just stared at him. he didn't say anything. it was a staring contest. because you never want to speak first -- no, you never want to speak first in a meeting, and adams do that because it is a power game, so they just sat there and for 45 minutes they just stared at each other. >> judge jeanine: waiting minute. there is no one in that room, do you have a wiretap or a bug in there, because that is illegal. may be there's already a legal one in there. >> dana: harold, do you want to be the body language expert and expand to us what happened in this meeting? >> harold: i'm glad, i listened to mayor adams after

president-elect who's famously someone who's never had a drink, looks down upon people who do, in fact rudy giuliani may have missed out on a cabinet post in 2016 because of his own drinking. so with that as the backdrop, tell us the very latest you're hearing from capitol hill about senators and their staff, what they're saying about hegseth's chances. >> yeah, good morning, jonathan. there's a lot of concern that's being raised privately and some publicly about hegseth's nomination. i think it's concerns trump allies have raised, private concerns regarding the potential for him to get cleared by the senate. and this is going to be a big test for trump, too, who already have one of his nominees, matt gaetz for attorney general, so he's facing a lot of trouble with the people he's tapping for his administration already. so this could also further deter who he wants to be serving for him. >> publicly at least the trump team is standing by. the governor of florida is being bandied about as a possible replacement. obviously been vetted publicly for his runs for governor and his presidential bid. is tha

the other cases against mark meadows, rudy giuliani, other people involved in the case could go forward. but, there is nobody who really believes a judge in georgia would allow a case to go against donald trump when he was is -- when he is back in the white house. >> looking at all of the cases that existed, using the past tense, what remains? >> none of them. the two federal cases against donald trump, jack smith wound those down and the other was dismissed. this case in georgia is really in limbo. the only one that really has some legal maneuvers going on is the stormy daniels case. 34 felony convictions against donald trump in new york city. the judge just throughout donald trump's attempt to say, the supreme court just granted me immunity. i ought to be able to throw this case out. he said not so fast. he has postponed sentencing, perhaps, not until donald trump is out of the white house. william brangha -- >> william brangham, thank you as always. >> thank you, jeff. >> now we shift the focus to donald trump following through on threats of legal action against the news media. earli