. >> director giusti: it's a great concept for art. how will you prepare the metal? is it the same color of the bay bridge? >> exact same color. we'll use the same paint that they use on the bridge. >> president tsen: okay. good. yes, jean-paul? >> director samaha: great piece. and i see the tie-in to the bridge with the metal and the light, but why the circle? what is the significance of the circle? >> you know, i'm trying to i there of -- i'm an artist. i can talk forever about my work. if you have an hour, i can answer that. i'm interested in the things that we build, the things that we build to navigate our way across the landscape. and to take this bridge that's connected our community and turn it around on itself and invite people to sit in contemplation of what the bridge -- the history of the bridge, the way it's performed for us, think about the new span, old span. it makes it a self-contained space for contemplation. >> director samaha: thank you. nice work. >> president tsen: thank you very much. is there any questions or comments? hearing none, next item.