i'm confident that justin and gladia have done their due diligence, we voted and had a unanimous vote, i forget the date, this year though, before justin went to get the permit and mr. ernst changed his vote, and handed us this appeal so i'm here to speak in favor of going ahead with the vinyl siding and getting the leak fixed and also to avoid the mold, which affects all units if anybody wants to sell or whatever. thank you. >> thank you, is there any other public comment? okay, seeing none, then mr. ernst you have three minutes of rebuttal. >> i just want to reiterate the point that they can put all the siding on there if they want, if they don't stop the intrusion of the water from where it's really coming from, they're still going to have mold. the way to fix this is not to put cheap plastic siding on the build what you need to do is take the sheet rock off the wall, get rid of it seal the wall, reframe it because it's probably had a lot of water in there it's probably weak, it probably has deteriorated and has lost seismic resistance. it's an important part of a wall. and fix it

>> hi my name's gladia, i just wanted to point out the fact that we don't think that this leak is only due to that space wean the two buildings. the plywood siding that we have on the wall that's 20 years old, and you can see on this photo is clearly end of life. we need a wall that protects us from the elements first of all. secondly the trough, i refer to it as many feet back into our backyard 42 feet into our backyard away from our house and that 4 inch wide ditch between the two buildings is very, very deep. there's not standing water in that ditch absolutely not and the carpeting that's getting wet is five feet above that ditch so it's not an issue of a paom of water down below leaking up to our bedroom up above that's not happening and the other issue i want to make clear there is that section where the two buildings are side by side. we're seeing leaks up to at least 23 feet forward of that building so very far away from these two buildings are side by side, we're seeing it all the way through our bedroom and to our bathroom and into our den, so very far away from that area. >>