even though i don't think there will be an announcement of anything big at the biden summit, before glascoa will announce an ambitious target. then what has right now. >> michael,e are hearing a lot of very ambitious plans right now. the u.s. aims to cut its greenhouse gas emissions by half by 2030. the eu has announced a new target which would be a 50% reduction by 2030. is all of this achievable? >> not only is it achievable, much more is possible. the cheapest way to generate energy is now renewable energy. with winds, water, and the son. we can go beyond these government targets and be much more ambitious and fit for purpose and scale. the reality is, some of the challenges the other two speakers have mentioned in terms of utilities standing in the way of the process in south africa, that is mirrored in the u.s.. you have many utilities slow walking renewables. the transition problem we have in india, we see that across the u.s., but the fact is, some places, take the state of texas, give more people working in the renewable sector already today then there are in oil and gas. that will