glaude and dr. west. most well-known, democracy in black, how race still enslave it is american soul and shade of blue and african american studies and the share of african american studies at princeton university. if anything of that has changed, you will have to tell us. [laughter] >> dr. west, professor of practice of philosophy at harvard school, best known for democracy matters and memoir brother west living out loud. here is the host of new podcast. we will be discussing dr. glau dr. glaude's book that was released yesterday. the book is beautiful. it's hopeful in in a moment whee we need that. i'm going to read just a little bit of where this book gets its name from and then we will start now. it begins -- the beginning in encouraging space. all of the love and labor seem to come to nothing was scattered. we knew where we had been, what we had tried to do, who had cracked, gone mad, died or been murdered around us. not everything is lost. responsibility cannot be lost. it can only be abdictated, if

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. >> professor glaude, you study our life in society for a living, it's your life's calling as an academic, a point i made with you before, second perhaps to only gay marriage, the public polling on the black lives matter movement and its underpinnings and meaning following the death of george floyd makes it one of the fastest moving public issues of our time in terms of acceptance, it's not just a dotted line between the death of mr. floyd and the era we're living in right now, it's a bright red line. >> indeed. we've seen that change. we've seen that shift in the polling data but we know we still have to grapple with the difficult issue of actually that will look like on the ground concretely in terms of police reform, how are we going to think about the ways budgets are determine and money is allocated, thinking about the debates around defund the police and the like. i think it's important. it's important to vice president bi biden that he takes it seriously as nominating an african-american woman as his vice president running mate. want to be clear, we don't want to fall into the trap

and professor eddie glaude jr., welcome both of you to our broadcast. call it what it is, let's talk about the pressure on joe biden to name a black woman vice presidential running mate and i would ascribe that to two central reasons -- number one, the moment in history we find ourselves in and number two, something formative about the fact that there's a biden campaign and that's what happened in south carolina, thanks to a certain member of congress and a certain formidable, dependable voting bloc. >> i should tell you the two things you mentioned, i should say vice president biden is feeling this pressure, but i will also add one of the things that i hear from people is that african-american women in particular are the most loyal, some of the most loyal democratic voters and have been for a long time, in other words, black women have been going to the polls and voting for democrats and they haven't seen themselves representing on the ticket in the highest way possible. of course, there's the idea that african-americans especially in south carolina we

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eddie glaude is the chair of the african-american studies department at princeton university. he's the author of "begin again." it is true, the stock market is at an all-time high, but tens of millions of americans are still out of work and without pay. i will break down why the stock market is not indicative of the larger american economy. you're watching "velshi" on msnbc. this is my body of proof. proof i can fight moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. proof i can fight psoriatic arthritis... ...with humira. proof of less joint pain... ...and clearer skin in psa. humira targets and blocks a source of inflammation that contributes to joint pain and irreversible damage. humira can lower your ability to fight infections. serious and sometimes fatal infections, including tuberculosis, and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to

we have a microphone problem with eddie glaude. it's great because we have claire mccaskill here.ve been like chicken soup for you because they have been about decency and warmth. i have said earlier in the program how much i loved the elevator operator talking about joe biden's heart having room in it for someone besides himself. and all of those things are echoes of what you based your campaign on. how do you think it's going so far? my second question i want to throw in here, in case you want to do it, one of the things they were sharing polling information with russia was to try to track jill stein's numbers in michigan and pennsylvania and wisconsin. they wanted russia to help out building up jill stein's numbers. in my opinion, that's what happened. do you fear they're going to do the same thing with kanye in those states where he might make the ballot, particularly some place like wisconsin? >> first of all, i just want to say, there's a saying by great humorist dave barry says someone who's not nice to you but not nice to the waiter is not a nice person. you and i both kno

eddie glaude represents the voices of the cloud of witnesses, a custodian of a rich inheritance and a caretaker of a great tradition of people to keep dishing out these levels of truth. this is why he engages with somebody like altman at the highest levels of greatness. greatness not in terms of -- i want the book to be number one but the greatness not measured by just remember that it's measured by what went into it, the courage to think critically and the courage to love and the courage to generate hope and to practice hope is to be connected to the best of one's tradition to understand what's going into the making in the molding with that love all the way into magnificent mississippi. that's what senate and what senate intimate that tradition available to the whole world the whole world being at that level, you have been able to somehow keep it on, keep on pushing so that's what you actually get in "begin again" and let's be honest about it it's a tear soaked, bloodsoaked and yet soulful tradition. that's what you get in this text. >> first of all i hope my mom is listening. that's

kasie hunt, mike barnicle, eddie glaud all back with us.r immediate and long-term reforms to better balance public health and public safety. welcome to you both. we appreciate you being here. attorney general lynch, i'll begin with you. i look down the list of people on the panel and it's judges like yourself, attorneys general, but also mayors and police chiefs and public health officials. so, how do you describe this initiative? what are you trying to get at exactly. >> good morning, willie. thank you very much for having us on and bringing a light to this important issue. we're trying to focus on the systemic inequalities that are coming to it is surface in our criminal justice system. this pandemic has hit every system of our life in an incredibly difficult way. frankly, the criminal justice system is really buckling under the strain. long-standing problems are coming to the surface. these are problems that are not just limited to what's happening in court, in jail. they affect the way in which we think about criminal justice, the way i

amna nawaz recently spoke to author and princeton professor eddie glaude, jr. about his work.art of our ongoing arts and culture series, canvas. >> grappling with the fact that the country semingly was doubling down on its darkness, on its meugly comms, and trying to figure out how could i muster the energy to push the rock back up the hill. and watching it take root in my own sun. it seemeto me i needed to find a way to get it on the page. i've been reading and i've been reading jimmy baldwin, where i call him jimmy, because he's like a personal friend. after all of these years, i've been rding him for abopl 30 years grg with his ideas. and then finally i turned to him to help me think about this current moment. so this is a book written with him about bob, about darkness of our times. >> nawaz: we should point out this wasn't rc academic ee. it was a physical. and you made a pilgrimage of sorts to different ses that were important through baldwin's life. >> so i took a quick flight to n.e. in order to go visit voldwin's home in st. paul, and, you know, it's being turned into

join meg now the chair of the african american studies department of princeton university, eddie glaude junior. with each passing week i'm really grateful for the interview that jonathan swan did and the interview that chris wallace did with the president because finally 3 1/2 years into this thing we're getting the types of interviews we should be having with donald trump, which expose him for the fraud and the sharlt charlton that he is. but it's fascinating, it is what it is. after all those estimates of how low coronavirus deaths would be, now the president's just transitioned to it is what it is. >> yeah, i think it's a -- well, ali, i think it's a reflection of who and what he values. we could say it's an indication of his callous heart that he lacks empathy. but at the end of the day what he values behind his own self-interest is just simply a kind of greed and selfishness, i think. he values opening the economy, he values people who are making money and the like, and he's willing to put americans at risk in light of those values. in your earlier segments you talked about how rep

eddie glaude is with us and he has a question for you, richard. eddie?some ways this is not surprising. remember steve bannon gave us those buckets and one aspect of those buckets involved a certain understanding of u.s. nationalism, economic sovereignty and the like. talk to us a little bit about this ideology that is the dismantling of the post world war ii consensus? what are his parameters, contents? in other words it's not just trump's lack of a better word stupidity and ignorance, it seems to be an ideological position combined with his ignorance that has led to the dismantling of the postworld war ii consensus. talk about what that is and entails? >> one is the alliances cost us more than the benefit. we get taken advantage of. the other is the institution limits our options and what you want to do is preserve the option to do whatever it is we want at any time. there is this view of sovereignty as something that can't in any way be compromised. but none of this makes sense in a world where allies our single biggest advantage -- we wake up every d

>> let's bring in professor and author, eddie glaude jr. so much to worry about and be deeply disturbed about here. what are you thinking so far about what is happening in kenosha? >> well, i'm trying to make sense of it. you know, we get a stark contrast mika. a man who supposedly had a knife in his car is shot in the back 17 times. a 17-year-old white teenager kills two people, injures another, talks down the street with an ar-15, and he's not approached by police in an aggressive way or the like. so you get a sense of the ways in which bodies are policed. that's the first thing. the second thing is sometimes we are concerned about the violence of protests. i want to say we need to shift the concern. that is to say, what are the reasons behind it. we need to think more carefully about who are we more concerned about in these instances and we have to finally address this. the last point i would make is this. the country binges on black grief and suffering like a show on netflix. we have to go through this so much. and, mika, it's -- some p