eddie glaude, eddie glaude, eddie glaude, i think our souls are kin, you are so profound, you are sotching you a while. i can't pronounce his name but is it tenant hasÃbtallahasseeÃb of how you feel about the scam that is going on around the black lives matter vision now and the scam of the defined the police meaning how they are trying to set the narrative and also, how is your son? i remember when he wanted to go out and protest with the george floyd situation and à >> host: we will get answers to those, when you say the scam about d from the police, exactly what do you mean? >> she's gone, sorry about that professor. >> guest: i think i have an idea what she means. first of all, let me just thank you for your kind words and thank you for asking about my son, he's driving, he's out in california working for the public defenders service out of the bay area. on his way to he wants to be a public defender, god bless him. i'm very proud of him, he's doing well. and he's happy, which is more important i think. the first question about the scam, i think what she means is the way in which

good june, eddie glaude, eddie glaude, i think our souls are kin. you're so profound, so deliberate. i've one watching you've a while. i can't pronounce his name but is it ten has sicoats. you're along the line of how he is to me as well. give me some idea of how you feel about the scam that is going on around the "black lives matter" vision now and the scam of the defund the police, meaning how their trying to set the narrative, and also how is your son? i remember when he wanted to go out and protest with the george floyd situation and how -- >> host: debbie we'll get answers. when. you say the scam about defund the police, what do you mean? >> caller: debbie? >> host: she's gone, sorry, professor. >> i think i have an idea what she means. so, first of all let me just thank you for your kind words and thank you for asking about my son. he is thriving, out in california, working for the public defender service in the bay area. on his way to -- wants to be a public defender, god bless him. so i'm very proud of him. he's doing well. and he is happy,

debbie in philadelphia. >> caller: eddie glaude eddie glaude eddie glaude. i think our souls are key in. you are so profound, so deliberate. still watching you a while. is it tallahassee coats? you are along the line to me as well. let me have some idea how you feel about the scam that is going on around the black lives matter vision now and the scam of the defund the police, how they are trying to set the narrative. how is your son? i remember when he wanted to protest the george floyd situation. >> host: when you say the scam about defund the police, what do you mean? debbie she is gone. sorry about that, professor. >> guest: i think i have an idea what she means. first of all, let me thank you for the kind words, asking about my son. he's thriving, out in cafornia, working for the public defender service, left to be a public defender, and he is happy. the way black lives matter ing scapegoated as the reason democrats lost rtain seats, conservative centrist democrats and conservative districts against the wall. this is the reason, we heard president obama

amy: that brings us to professor eddie glaude. professor, you tweeted this quote from james baldwin, "it has always seemed much easier to murder than to change. and this is really the choice with which we are confronted now." explain. prof. glaude: well, you know, there's a sense in which the reckoning that we find ourselves involves the question of whether or not we're going to fundamentally embrace the idea that we are a multiracial democracy. and the history of the country suggests that we constantly, when faced with that question, will double down on violence, that white america will choose violence to defend its way of life, to defend those noxious assumptions that have, in some ways, led to the organization of our way of life predicated upon this idea that white people ought toe valu more than others, that they will in fact exact a certain kind of violence to defend that view. and so, baldwin, in this moment, is kind of marking this, right? that america is always talking about it changing, but it never changes, right? and so

glaude. on msnbc a lot. is for me being a 64-year-old black man from south carolina, who came here because of opportunity. like black folk are in an illusion of being an american, because we have died protecting this country from crispus attucks to whatever. when i heard you say something, you were disappointed, i got so much on my mind when it comes to blackness, black folks. -- we paid taxes to support racism and ideologies of weight is pure and black is negative. as blackion that we americansrying to be and never being respected for nothing that we do. even you, with all of your scholars and accolades, you could come down to south carolina, and you might be called the n-word. us. have no respect of it does not matter if we are a man in your position or a black fellow sleeping on the street. host: rick in jacksonville, florida. thanks for the call. professor, go ahead. guest: we heard a version of that sentiment from rick coming out of the mouth of doc rivers, coach of the philadelphia 76ers and the former

eddie glaude, eddie glaude, eddie glaude, you are so talented and deliberate. i have are watching you for while the snap one - - i cannot pronounce his name bad china has to include to along the line of how he is as well. tell me about the scam going on around the black lives matter version and to defend the police meeting how they tried to separate it is and also how is said? i remember he wanted to go out and protest with the church that situation. host: we would get the answers what do you mean when you say the scam? >>caller: she is gone sorry about that. >> i have an idea. first of all thank w you for your kind words and asking about my son he is thriving and in california working for defend the public service in the bay area he wants to be a public defender of god bless him. i'm very proud. the first question i think she means the wayay it is scapegoated as the why of the slogan the way the police but conservative centrist democrats and in conservative districts against the wall and this is the reason why you just heard president obama referred to it as a

and eddie glaude jr. is chair of the department of african- american studies at princetoner unty and an author himself. and we welcome all four of you back to the news hour. we normally at the end of the year, look back at the highs and e lows. t dr. blackstock, i think it's fair to say this year it's beenr a f low and lower. but let'focus first on the pandemic. what is it said to us, do you think, about america's leadership and about who we are as americans? >> so as we head io this, i would say this dark winter with cases record highs that's increasing, would say that there was a social contract that was broken between this country's leadership and its people. the fact that we have a virus that can be mitigated and other nations have done that much more successfully than we have, has really shown the degree of the lack of leadership here. i've witnessed this firsthand as an emergency medicine physician. i cared for probably up tohis point, thousands of covid-19 patients. i've never been scared to go to

glaude. on msnbc a lot.s for me being a 64-year-old black man from south carolina, who came here because of opportunity. like black folk are in an illusion of being an american, because we have died protecting this country from crispus attucks to whatever. when i heard you say something, you were disappointed, i got so much on my mind when it comes to blackness, black folks. -- we paid taxes to support racism and ideologies of weight is pure and black is negative. as blackion that we americansrying to be and never being respected for nothing that we do. even you, with all of your scholars and accolades, you could come down to south carolina, and you might be called the n-word. us. have no respect of it does not matter if we are a man in your position or a black fellow sleeping on the street. host: rick in jacksonville, florida. thanks for the call. professor, go ahead. guest: we heard a version of that sentiment from rick coming out of the mouth of doc rivers, coach of the philadelphia 76ers and the former c

professor glaude, let me start with joe biden meeting with americans as he did today, to try to tell them help is on the way. he can't specifically describe what that help is going to be because so much of that depends on georgia, while at the same time in the white house, we have the rantings of the unhinged president with less than 50 days left, where he continues to pretend so that he can raise money that the election isn't over. the duality of these things happening at the same time, obviously something we've never seen before and something joe biden has to struggle to get beyond. >> right. i think it's important, first of all, let me just acknowledge the brilliance of that opening, lawrence, i think it's important for us to understand that what president-elect biden has to do is show a deep sense of concern and care for americans who have been devastated and ravaged by covid-19, because we have experienced deep empathy to feel the pain of the american citizenry. now, he understands very clearly that his hands are tied, at least as of now. but he has to at least be open and in so

professor eddie glaude, thank you. stick around. i want to you in just a moment about georgia. we just learned that both president-elect joe biden and vice president-elect kamala harris will be campaigning for democrats in the senate runoff races there. we'll go live to gwinnett county where ballots are already being verified. >>> first, though, across this country more than 700 people have died of the coronavirus in just the last 24 hours. one of them was luke letlow, a newly elected republican congressman from louisiana. he was set to be sworn into office just days from now. father of two small children. letlow announcing less than two weeks ago he tested positive. moments ago house speaker nancy pelosi offering her condolences. >> sadly, the congress received the news last evening of the passing of a new 34e78 bmembers congress, luke letlow from louisiana due to be sworn in this sunday, but taken by the coronavirus yesterday. he leaves his wife and two babies, and we extend great sympathy to his family. so sad. 41 years old, coronavirus, blood clot complication. it could hap

glaude.ounties are increasing or keeping on par the number of early voting sites that we have for the november elections, the number of drop box locations. cobb county is rolling that number back. our democratic legislative delegation or just the legislative delegation, it just happens to be majority democratic now because we have picked up seats in cobb county, they are pushing back. we are making sure voters understand. it's just the suppression tactics, fear tactics, the investigations, making people feel like they have done something wrong simply by using a drop box, simply by using an absentee ballot or voting by mail, which they want you to th is two different things. it's the same thing. and so with all of the rhetoric and all of the investigations and saying that people are going go to jail if they register to vote and they are not supposed to, people aren't just moving to georgia to register to vote. these are people who maybe did not register in time for the november election and no

elise jordan and eddie glaude jr. are still with us.the dot inc., authors of winners take all, anand giridharadas. kasie, explain to us that moment we just saw from the senator -- from senator schumer and the bizarre dynamics we have unfolding right now on capitol hill. >> well, we've got a beautiful sunrise, but red sky at morning, it's going to be a rough day for mitch mcconnell. we're looking to him this morning for any clues about what he is going to do because it is now up to the senate after the house passed that bill yesterday that would increase coronavirus relief checks to $2,000 for certain americans and 44 republicans approved the legislation. 275-134, narrowly reaching the two-thirds majority that the bill needed to pass. it would increase the direct payments to $2,000 to americans who earned less than $75,000 last year and senator minority leader schumer said he'll try to pass the bill by unanimous consent today but it's unclear if senate republicans will get on board with the measure and mcconnell has declined to publicly

eddie glaude is the chairman of the department of african american studies at princeton university. thanks to both of you. >>> coming up, new details on a massive russian cyber attack on u.s. government networks. former ambassador wendy sherman joins us after this break. crab cakes with spicy aioli. (doorbell rings) thank you. can we be besties, simone biles? i guess? yessss! should we dismount now? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ you're choosing to get connected to the most to xfinity mobile, reliable network nationwide, now with 5g included. discover how to save up to $400 a year with shared data starting at $15 a month, or get the lowest price for one line of unlimited. come into your local xfinity store to make the most of your mobile experience. you can shop the latest phones, bring your own device, or trade in for extra savings. stop in or book an appointment to shop safely with peace of mind at your local xfinity store. >>> donald trump and republicans are shouting from the rooftops about baseless, voter-fraud claims. but they are largely silent about a far-more urgent matter. one "the new york time

and professor eddie glaude. msnbc contributor. good evening to both of you. thank you for being here. jennifer horn, i -- i -- i -- i can't agree with your words, more. when steve schmidt says he is a single-issue voter now, and that issue is democracy. that is the one thing that should bring us all together. and at the end of the day, once we've all agreed that democracy is the thing we need to -- to -- to -- to provide for and to protect, we can go our separate ways. and join other political parties. there's no reason we shouldn't have multiple, political parties. there is a good reason why we shouldn't have political parties that are anti-democratic in this country. >> that's exactly right. and thank you so much for having me, tonight. you know, i was one of those people that was holding out hope that, when trump was behind us, when the election was over and he lost, that, maybe, there would be some other republicans, like myself, willing to come out and come together. and try to rebuild on those foundational principles of democracy and individual liberty

i think you've read as many books as eddie glaude has.ut underneath -- >> nobody has. >> but you've got a sharp take on what's happening right now. what is your sense about what trump's doing right now? >> okay, nicolle, that brings me to a question i might have for you, you know what i'm saying, like, you know, you worked with the republicans a long time ago, with the bush administration. the question that has been burning my brain, what did they ever offer nicolle, what is the difference between those republicans you worked with then with these republicans that we work with? i mean, is it -- like, mitch, because a lot of them are still there, why won't mitch budge? is it about money? is it about power? is it about racism? or is it all of that? what is driving people to believe these people, nicki? that's the question. >> so that's the right question. and george bush came out and congratulated joe biden as soon as the election was called. and no one followed him. and when you're an ex-president, you don't have a lot of power. but histori

. >> woodruff: professor glaude, what about that? how possible is it truly for us to tackle these issues that you're all describing when we are so split?ve >> we o tell ourselves the truth. that these t parallel worlds, these two parallel realities, one is rooted in this assumption that white people ought to be valued more than others, that there's a way in which a sense of one's own precarity, a sense of one's own economic insecurity, is being displaced onto these others who are in some ways the recipients of a tyrannical government that's redistributing wealth from hardworking folk to lazy folk. ourselves the truth, it seems to me. and that is in some ways we may very well be experiencing the last gasp of a particular understanding of the country. the demographic shifts that are that have happened arting certain kinds of pressures. we're seeing those pressures ced themselves in the bo politic as well as in our cultural lives. w re in some ways, we're at a crossroads to invoke a blues metaphor. and the question is, what kind of choi

coming up wednesday morning, princeton university's eddie glaud jr. on his new book, "begin again." james baldwin's america. and its urgent lessons for our own. then kristen describes the exodus cities in the states. washington c-span's journal live at 7:00 eastern wednesday morning. be sure to join the cushion with your phone calls, text messages and tweets. >> you're watching c-span, your unfiltered view of government. c-span was created by america's television companies in 1979. today, we're brought to you by these television companies who provide c-span to viewers as a public service. >> massachusetts governor charlie baker gave an update on the state's coronavirus response. the governor announced new restrictions to take effect the day after christmas due to the spike of positive cases after thanksgiving. he also talked about vaccine distribution and the covid relief legislation. this is 40 minutes.

>> well, i am happy to answer that, professor glaude.t in these political labels. indeed, i can remember a study that was conducted even on the term moderate that -- and even the term centrist, that people who identified as moderate, some of them were, indeed, to the left or even to the right in a general sense, for lack of a, you know, explanation. so you have people who support what is now called liberal policies when it comes to health care, but then they support more right-wing when it comes to criminal justice. so then how can we essentially frame them either as liberal or conservative? i think we should focus specifically on the policies that people support or don't support. but, obviously, as a journalist, and even as communicators, when we only have a few minutes to describe people or a few words to describe people, these terms become useful or helpful in communicating. obviously, people are much more complex. and that's what i show with my work, that people hold racist and anti-racist ideas. so to call them racist or anti-racist

eddie glaude from princeton university.he book, "begin again: james baldwin's america and its urgent lessons for our own." thank you so much for giving us your time. guest: it is my pleasure. host: can you talk first, about your relationship with james baldwin and what drew you to him? guest: my relationship with james baldwin is a complicated one. he informs how i think,

eddie glaude from princeton university. the book, "begin again: james baldwin's america and its urgent lessons for our own." thank you so muc

and professor at princeton university, eddie glaude jr.it wait. >> what do you have planned for christmas what do you have planned for the holidays? >> i'm going to cook -- >> what is this war on christmas. i can't ask a question about christmas anymore. it's the war on christmas. eddie, what do you have going on for christmas, hanukkah, i don't care. what do you have going on with your lovely family this christmas? >> be quick. >> i'm going to cook a bit pot of gumbo and i'm going to write a book written by joe scarborough. >> did not plan this. it's called "saving freedom." >> yeah. that's it. >> mike barnicle, what is ann going to let you do this christmas season? >> oh, joe, you know me. i mean, we're going to have an incredible crowd of people here individually socially distanced. i'm a people guy, as you know. we're going to have the extended family here for two or three days, sleeping over. having fun. playing card games. it will be wonderful. i can't -- i'm looking forward to it. >> no one is going to be there at all. okay. we begi

. >> eddie glaude, author of six books, most recently begin again, james baldwin america and urgent lessons for our own. we apprecie you spending 2 hours with us from princeton. >> thank you. .. we this evening depending on where and when in the world you may be joining us. i will introduce our author and morator this afternoon. sh has a law degree from france. she went numerous years law and finance. her other works include the mystery of the low wall killer. she now i lov with her that debut novel one award of the the way o what they can't ar the your hot walk into the mac is wonderful to be here. i want to read just a little bit of the boat. from the introduction. let's give everyone a taste of the introduction of this book and what we are dealing with today. across the world. i think this is an important opening. please read a little bit. >> so introduction. prize and paradox. no other price more proceeds than the nobel prize. an aura of admirion surrounds it. as a 1984 when her. no sooner had i gotten the nobel peace prize than then i became that oracle. everything i have said before w

after that, princeton university's eddie glaude on his new book "begin again." congressman, peter york is retiring from the u.s. house after 14 terms and nearly three decades, we spoke with him last week. this is 40 minutes. king,so representative after 20 years on capitol hill, why are you calling it quits? i loved every minute of it down here. it was a dream of a lifetime. you get to a certain stage, i will be 77 years old in a few months. i'm in good health, my wife is in good health. my wife moved to north carolina with her children and her husband. i am healthy. i'm staying active and in new york. have -- i have several different job opportunities. a radio show, who knows? i'll be competing with c-span. host: will you be involved in politics? rep. king: i'm not going to run again. but i have been part of the upstate party. i'm definitely going to stay active in new york, rhode island, new york city, new york state. try to stay relevant after you are out of office. host: what is [indiscernible] like? rep. king: it's been a great place to live. i moved there

today at noon eastern we are live with eddie glaude, jr. come check the african-american studies program at princeton university. he will discuss race and politics in america and answer your questions on our in-depth call-in program. and tonight its coverage of the 71st annual national book awards on our offer any to program "after words," "national review" correspondence kevin williamson reports on the politics and everyday lives of what american working class from his travels to appellation. find more schedule information at booktv.org or consult your program guide. >> hello, everyone. i am brandon valeriano, senior fellow at the cato institute and appeared to welcome you to

today, live at noon eastern in-depth, eddie glaude, jr., the author of several books including begin again, james baldwin to america and it's arjun lessons for own. exodus, , and an uncommon fate. >> here we are in this moment after electing the first black president in 2008, the country responded by what voter suppression luck in voter id laws, the tea party, the vitriol of the tea party and then we elected donald trump. so we're at a crossroads. who are we going to be? at the heart of it all there's always been this moral question, who do we take ourselves to be? >> join with your calls, tweets, texts and facebook messages and at night people eastern on "after words" "national review" correspondent kevin williamson and his book big white ghetto on the politics and everyday lives of white working-class americans in appalachia. watch booktv on c-span2 today. >> hi, everybody. andrew curran is a professor of humanities at westling university. is the author of three books. they are all great. the first one was also about did a row but a difre

"in depth" a conversation with author and chair of africa tieds idea princeton university, eddie glaude're he are in this moment, after electing the first black.in 2008, the country respondle by, whats vote if suppression laws voter id laws the vitriol of the tea party and then we elected donald trump so we're at a crossroads. who are we going to be? the heart of it all it's always been this moral question. who do we take ourselves to be? >> join the conversationive your calls, tweets, texts, and facebook messages. and at 9:00 p.m. eastern on "after words," national review correspondent kevin williamson and his book big white ghetto on the lives on white work class americans in appalachia. he is interviewed by sahlen aveto. watch on booktv this weekend. >> here's a look at some of the most notable books of 2020 according to the "washington post" in a furious sky, eric dolan provides a hispanic of hurricanes impacting the out. boston college history professor ether cox richardson offings that southern ideologies spread to the american west in how the south won the civil war. in the less

after that, princeton university's eddie glaude on his new book "begin again."gressman, peter york is retiring from the u.s. house after 14 terms and nearly three decades, we spoke with him last week. this is 40 minutes. king,so representative after 20 years on capitol hill, why are you calling it quits? rep. king:

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. >> professor eddie glaude from princeton, james baldwin's america and urgent lessons of our own.ontemporary times to the civil rights era, what is that comparison. >> well, in each of those moments, there was an opportunity for the nation to imagine itself otherwise. where the country had an opportunity to leave behind the reality of white supremacy and how it organized our

yamiche: eddie glaude jr. is the james s.nguished university professor of african american studies at princeton university. i think black women need to claim this victory and in doing so, insist on having and wielding actual power. and we -- the representational moment is important. the symbolic significance of a black woman being the vice president of the united states is important. but what we need in our communities right now are policies that will address the suffering that engulfs our communities today. yamiche: that's something harris has promised to do. and as she looks toward the inauguration, she's already acknowledging the tough road ahead. sen. harris: as i said the night we won this election: now is when the real work begins. the necessary work. the good work. of getting this virus under control, saving lives, beating this pandemic, and opening our economy responsibly while rebuilding it so it works for working people. yamiche: it's a tough road being paved for the first time. we turn now to explore the rest of th

. >> doris, eddie glaude has a question for you. eddie. >> it's great to see you this morning. i have a -- >> you can't call me professor kearns, that's old stuff. i was a professor a long time ago. >> well, we want to continue to recognize that, but beyond the mechanics of congress dealing with that, there are these forces that surround president-elect biden and vice president-le president-elect harris to kind of force them to tinker around the edges to not in some way imagine at the scale of the problems that we face as a country. in your studies of presidential leadership, how did lbj just stand on his square and say this is what i'm going to do, or fdr, this is what i'm going to do. in other words, how did they muster the courage to respond at scale to the scale of the problems the country faced? >> yeah, i think that's one of the most important qualities of leadership right now. there has to be a boldness. there has to be a line of demarcation between the previous president and the new president coming in and you have to challenge the people, and you just have to be willin

. ♪ ♪ >> up next, it's booktv's monthly in the "in depth" program with eddie glaude. include democracy in black: how race still enslaves the american sl, and the recently-published "begin again." .. what is the comparison you are making? >> guest: in each of those moments was opportunity for the nation to imagine itself otherwise where the country had an opportunity to leave behind

eddie glaude, jr., "begin again", james baldwin, urgent lessons. exodus, democracy in black and an uncommon faith. >> here we are in this moment after electing the first black president in 2008, the country responded by what, voter suppression laws, voter i.d. laws, the tea party, the vitriol of the tea party and then elected donald trump. so we're at a crossroads. who are we going to be. at the heart of it all, there's been a moral question. who will we take ourselves to be? >> join the conversation with your call tweets, texts and facebook messages and at 9 p.m eastern on after rd, kevin williamson and his book "big white ghetto" on the politics of white working class americans in appalachia. he's joined by cnn contributor. watch book tv on c-span2 this weekend. >> the supreme court heard oral argument in edwards versus vannoy, a case stemming from a supreme court ruling establishing the right to unanimous jury trials for defendants in federal and state courts and whether it can apply retroactively on other cases. this is just under an hour and a

eddie glaude has a question for you. >> good morning, professor ross. thank you so much.nd this interesting. there is -- you know, there's a scale, a spectrum of cancel culture that can travel from the internet to what we're seeing in georgia with regard -- with the battles with the republicans and the like. can you talk about the difficulty, because you mentioned this, of not inferring from one's political positions that they are bad people? it's hard to say if you hold this view, you must not be a decent human being. it's that move that's difficult to hold at arm's length. to draw the conclusion that if you hold this position it must mean deep down inside you're a bad person. how do you keep us from drawing that conclusion? >> i find i can talk to anybody if i do beneath their words and ask about their values. we're all socialized in this country so i have conservative parents who talked me about honor and trust and investing in community and i find that even people with the most odious views actually have some values you can talk about and perhaps agree with. if you do

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and we're joined by eddie glaude. and let me start with you.n talking today about joe biden is hard wired for this idea of diplomatship -- of bipartisanship and if that is not possible. they're not going to fight about taxes and obamacare, which was brutal at the time. they're going to fight about what the definition, what is true and what is fiction. >> right. it is go g to be back and it is great to if not be with you, to see you, sort of here on the tv. and you guys have been talking about this since november 3rd. we all have been. what is nature of this fight we're in right now. and i think the nature of this fight is, as you guys on -- you and yourself and others and steve and others have laid out, we're not talking about policy disagreements, we're talking about adherence to and fealty to democracy and i think the line has been brawn brightly and has profound implications for joe biden because he is someone that we have both known for a long time. i've known him since 1986 and he's wired to trying to get things done. not just because he's

the department of african-american studies at princeton university and an msnbc contributor, eddie glaudec strategist, ayesha mills. eddie, i just want tuo talk abot your next book, and leslie jones will be on next hour and the one video i watch over and over is her with your books and we'll get to that in a second. but ossoff seems to be running a very interesting campaign, aware of the structural and historic challenges of getting turnout in a special election. what do you think of the campaign you're watching there? i think he's been running a brilliant campaign, actually. and you know, i think it's really important for us to contextualize what january 5th will look like. we know what happened in 2018, nicole. donald trump was not on the ticket. we saw in some ways a depressed republican turnout and the numbers on the democratic side increase. and then, of course, the presidential election. and now donald trump will not be on the ticket. and there's a sense in which the work is still to be done, because donald trump and mitch mcconnell in the minds and hearts of many voters are kind of

joining our conversation, msnbc contributor eddie glaud, chairman of the department of african-americanudies at american university, and reverend al sharpton. i've turned to both of you to help me understand how and why -- i think there was one indictment for an officer who fired bullets into another apartment, but no one has paid a price professionally or legally for breonna taylor's death. does this move signify something good, rev? >> i think that this is a personnel move. it does not address the question of justice in a legal context. when this case started, and i remember breonna taylor's mother did "politics nation" with ben crump, the attorney, we call the attorney general of black america, she said, i want justice. they did get a breonna taylor law locally in louisville. they were able to get a civil settlement and some things from the city. but they still have not gotten an iota of justice in terms of the killing of breonna taylor. what the metro police did today was a personnel decision that is good for the citizens, that two of them are off the force. but it does not answer t