>or not and glen, i have a question for you u. in edward snowden's letter, he suggested the following. he said, "these spying programs are never about terrorism, but about power." and the rev shows that the nsa is spying on the activity of israel, brazil and south africa, and it has a program called follow the money. and if true, how does that level of surveillance advance our national security interests? >> let me just quickly address the thing about whether americans care. i think that a lot of times, we patronizingly say that americans only care about reality tv, and not about things like this. but there have been very substantial shifts about who you americans think about their civil liberties, and their view of these kinds of programs. in the short six months that we have been reporting on, it i think that americans are paying pretty close attention to it and care quite a bit. it continues to be one of the most significant news stories in the world, sparking all kinds of intense debate among citizens all over the world. and a

. >>> all we had to do is tell the community that glen was coming on the show and twitter is exploding. >> yes, exploding with a lot of a cynicism and skeptism about the reforms for the nsa. national security is a smoke screen and offering a reason why the president is offering reforms, hell have no furry. if the american people can tap obama's personal calls i'm okay with the nsa tapping mine. but in the minority is all nonsense. >> i don't about tapping the president's phone calls, but quite concerned about the nsa tapping members of congress's phone calls. >> and our phone calls are pretty tapped. >> president obama is working on recommendations to the nsa reform and the efforts are coming after exposing the surveillance information. the files revealed how the government collects phone data and taps into the internet providers and spies on the world leaders and this is concerning for the privacy advocates and the nsa is saying that the programs are nothing to fear, they are not monitoring the phone calls or your emails. they are helping to connect the dots of those wanting to harm a

glen campbell.ll me what motivated you to say, let's do something really special to honor glen campbell's music. >> i remember watching "the glen campbell good time hour." it was such a good show. i wanted to imitate him and emulate him. as fate would have it, when i became successful, the first star i met was glen campbell. and he was always so respectful to me and been friends ever since. back in the dazes ys of tnn, we hosted some christmas specials together. a lot of people know glen has developed alzheimer's. if you have that in your family, you know what the future holds. at some point, someone needed to do a tribute to this man, an incredible catalog of songs that he had -- has. and i just wanted it to be me. and i wanted to do it while he could still appreciate it and feel the love that we put into the album. >> let's introduce the band. we have randy harper on keys who plays with collin all the time and joining us, the little rockers, mark on guitar. brand-new guitar for christmas. pretty,

our starting point, the adopted home of american journalist glen greenwald, rio de janeiro, brazil. >> i had been contacted in december 2012, by someone who didn't identify himself but had interested material he thought h iwould want to look at. so i said send me something. he sent me encrypted documents. i immediately knew this was one of the most important security leaks in history. i had been working on surveillance issues and suddenly in my lap had dropped some of the most potent instruments for shining a light on what they were doing, beyond your wildest dreams as a journalist. unprecedented nature of the documents was going to be a earthquake in the political and media landscape around the world. and in the next i need my editor to get the guardian behind it in a very fast way. >> june 5th, 2013, the day edward snowden blue the whistle on the nsa. first the guardian reported on a secret fbi order backed up by a court requiring verizon and other american mobile providers to hand over metadata, logs of domestic phone calls in the u.s. and to numbers overseas. the next day june 6th

cd called "still on the line, the songs of glen campbell."about what motivated you to say let's do something really special to honor glen campbell and his music? >> i'm dating myself, but i remember watching the glen campbell good time hour in 1969 as a little kid. it was such a good show. i wanted to imitate him, emulate him. i thought he was the best voice i ever heard. as fate would have it, when i became successful, the first star where met was glen campbell. he was always so respectful to me, and we had been friends ever since. back in the days of tnn, we used to host things together, and a lot of folks know that glen had developed always hi eed alzheim. and my mom has that. if anybody has that in your family, you know what the future holds. i don't know, at some point, someone needed to do a tribute to this man, an incredible catalog of songs he has had, has, and i just wanted it to be me, and i wanted to do it while he could still appreciate it and feel the love that we put into the album. >> let's introduce the band. randy harper on t

can be at odds with the security people because sometimes those ideas are opposing one another. >> glen, are there particular challenges, are there particular challenges in russia given its recent past? >> i think people failed to take into mind it's the warmest place in russia. and the operations as putin has described, they're calling it the ring of steel. they've put 50,000 men to protect the olympics. but this region is frui fraughth regioinstability and we're talkg about potential thousands of militants up in arms fighting russia in the north cacases. we have to bear in mind there were 100,000 laborers were brought into sochi just to help build in the construction. many of these people came from central asian and then 14,000 elections from all over russia. how are they vetting all these people. the russian approach has been has been a military operation rather than a counter terrorism guarantee. >> the olympic committee did not take account of where sochi was before making that choice. >> i think so. the sochi olympics is as important to putin as munich was for hitler. this is a ch

glen is going to respond to that but mark halperin joined us. >> thank you, sir. >> rose: before glenresponds your assessment on this speech. >> more engaged and energized than i thought he would be, sometimes he has trouble when it looks like things are tough to unstick, he size away for performance for performance steak but he shows he has done it so i thought his energy was really good and i thought his arguments were pretty clear. i don't always like to compare him to clinton but bill clinton was the master of explaining our economic predicament showing he understood it and adding prescriptions to it and i thought he dead as well as i have seen him do on that score and he reached out on some issues i thought was very strong on healthcare and confrontation and very strong on immigration. >> rose: doris kearns goodwin, can you hear me in boynton beach, florida? yes you can. >> most definitely. >> rose: your assessment of the speech? >> i thought the most important thing was that he did show vitality and animation and that he was still president. against the caricatures of people thi

around the same time students at willow glen elementary return to glass. return to class. >> the dean of students at uc santa cruz has been arrested for suspicion of dui. he was arrested around 4:40 on saturday morning on highway 1 near freedom boulevard. police say her blood alcohol was more than the legal limit. the 49-year-old was booked and then released on bail. she has been on paid leave from the university since tuesday. >>> the oakland teenager accused of killing his sister over a fight over laundry turned himself in. he was shot and killed inside an oakland chinatown apartment last thursday. police say her 14-year-old brother did it. he turned himself into authorities this afternoon. investigators say he walked into police headquarters with family and his lawyer at his side. >> i want to thank the family and friends who were in constant contact with this young man trying to persuade him to turn himself in. i want to take my hat off to him. he did something that was a great job. >> he says the teen will be charged with his sister's murder. justice

glen greenwald on your program tonight. >> that's right. we're going talk to glen a lot. >> that is a must-see episode of "the stream".headed our way after real money. a. >> will new york city the big apple, america's financial capitol be the nation ace next big technology hub? some influential people are betting yes. mayor bloomberg assigned a piece of land between manhattan and queens to cornell tech, a program dedicated to reinventing graduate level education. it's curriculum connects business skills with technical skills which is crucial in a modern world where tech is part of all industries. only eight opportunities were enrolled when the program launches. joining me now, th good to see . >> yes, the big apple is going to become the tech center. >> the fact is like all industries those jobs are coming back. how did this discussion come up and how did it end? >> this is a brain child of mayor bloomberg and his team looking for a new talent pool to take advantage of all those industries that you just talked about, and what tech can do fo

and policy link, a poverty focused research organization and glen hubbard chairman of the council of economic advisors under president george w. bush and now dean of columbia university's school of business and welcome to off you. robert dahl , i want to start with you to set the scene. what drove lbj to undertake a war on poverty it. >> well, he wasn't the first one to want a war on poverty. in fact, what i find so interesting is herbert hoover in august 1928 said no country in the world was closer to abolishing poverty than the united states. and then of course we had the great depression. in 196 -- 1962 a man named michael harrington whos with a socialist, part of the democratic catholic workers movement published a book called the other america, poverty in the united states. it has had a great impact. >> well, what really gave it a great impact was the fact that dwight mcdonald, the critic, then published a discussion of it in "the new yorker" called a reviseable poor. and that created this sense that america has a problem. and john kennedy when he was in west virginia for the pr

around the same time students at willow glen elementary return to glass. return to class. >> the dean of students at uc santa cruz has been arrested for suspicion of dui. he was arrested around 4:40 on saturday morning on highway 1 near freedom boulevard. police say her blood alcohol was more than the legal limit. the 49-year-old was booked and then released on bail. she has been on paid leave from the university since tuesday. >>> the oakland teenager accused of killing his sister over a fight over laundry turned himself in. he was shot and killed inside an oakland chinatown apartment last thursday. police say her 14-year-old brother did it. he turned himself into authorities this afternoon. investigators say he walked into police headquarters with family and his lawyer at his side. >> i want to thank the family and friends who were in constant contact with this young man trying to persuade him to turn himself in. i want to take my hat off to him. he did something that was a great job. >> he says the teen will be charged with his sister's murder. justice

around the same time students at willow glen elementary return to glass. return to class. >> the dean of students at uc santa cruz has been arrested for suspicion dui. he was arrested around 4:40 on saturday morning on highway 1 near freedom boulevard. police say her blood alcohol was more than the legal limit. the 49-year-old was booked and then released on bail. she has been on paid leave from the university since tuesday. >>> the oakland teenager accused of killing his sister over a fight over laundry turned himself in. he was shot and killed inside an oakland chinatown apartment last thursday. police say her 14-year-old brother did it. he turned himself into authorities this afternoon. investigators say he walked into police headquarters with family and his lawyer at his side. >> i want to thank the family and friends who were in constant contact with this young man trying to persuade him to turn himself in. i want to take my hat off to him. he did something that was a great job. >> he says the teen will be charged with his sister's murder. justice tol

glen beck is transparent. a story in my book, a revelation for the first time, roger ailes had a conversation only months ago in which he told a politician that if he were president, he had the solution to the immigration problem. and roger ailes' solution would be to send navy s.e.a.l. trainees to our southern border and have them find illegal immigrants crossing into the united states and he would give them direct orders to shoot and kill anyone coming into our country. and this is from an anonymous source in this case or on the record source. >> on the record source that related this conversation, based on contemporaneous notes of this conversation that took place. roger ailes said to have s.e.a.l.s. earn their certification he wanted them to have to bring home a dead body. >> let me play devil's advocate. ailes is a republicanp. everybody knows that. conservative. everybody knows that. we could find other conservatives that would express certain points of view. many years ago you quote him in the book sayi

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in a blog by tony holiday who was a trekker who came back to glen canyon park says the park is depressing to look at when one is used to looking at a uniquely wild park. i loved them. i'm starting to avoid them. it feels like the suburbs. when you are used to looking at a uniquely wild park over the years. people should know better who go through such extremes with their park improvements. i liked it when it was over grown and hidden. changed my mind by thinking of would be cool if trails were cleared out because those don't know when to quit. no tree -- they are spending taxpayers money on the wrong things. so far i'm not impressed with the so-called improvements in the canyon. at least there are trees on the trails. who knows how long they will last. not every trail needs to be bike friendly. i don't like to go on a trail to be run over by bikers. in a similar situation in the chicago wilderness area, a research social scientist found that while a large majority of cook county residents found that restoring the areas was a good idea but would not require knocking down trees and using he

for cnn and glen beck. why is glen beck detest chris christie so much? >> i interviewed him for working for piers morgan and he called him a fast disaster. >> why? a fat nightmare i think it was. >> he es chews establishment republicans and democrats on both sides of the aisle. he likes free thinkers and folks outside of the box. he sees chris christie as a type a politician and finds that uninspiring. these not alone. there plenty of far left city party conservatives who have real problems with chris christie. even moderates who are concerned that he won't play as well in places like north carolina or iowa. as popular as he is and as many people like him and want him to run for president, he still has issues in the park. this is not going to help. it's not as easy as he thinks. fund-raise and speak alongside other republican governors. this is different. >> he's a popular guy. when you look at the polling, let's throw this up on the screen. he is the only candidate among registered voter who is can beat hi

the last thing they need is table tennis advice from glen cowan. so he was waved on the bus and when he gets on the bus he is given a silk screen portrait of sir melton. now, that alone says a lot. chinese are very precise about gift-giving. there's a store in china where, if you were going on a diplomatic mission, you would go, i'm meeting with ambassador, couple of secretaries and you pick from the right tier. he is picked from a tier that was too high to give to a table tennis player, and he opposite confessed i have to pick something nice because i was going to give it to an american, which says it all. this is a faxly organized detailed setup to get the americans into beijing. so this poor group of americans, they are about as diverse group as you can get. black, white, latin, high school girls, ibm engineers, the immigrant from the u.n., which the chinese love. and they all land in tianimen square. 36 hours notice and suddenly they're in tianimen square, and this becomes -- this takes the world by storm, and "new york times" offered to cover

joining us now is glen greenwall. i'm sure there were many unanswered questions for you today. did any part of the president's proposals satisfy you? >> i thought there were some positive steps, such as putting an advocate at the fisa court ending the government's ability to hold on to meta data, some restrictions on spying on foreign leaders. t the real problem is namely that the nsa is a system of spying that collects data on law-abiding people without any suspicion is going to continue more or less in its current form without restrictions. that's really the pressing question. why should the state have access to or be collecting data about innocent people? >> do you think the president has the political capital to be able to do something like that? i was struck in terms of the speech by outlining all the parts of our u.s. history where surveillance has served us well, to convince a skeptical public that the changes are necessary, and then issued a forceful note of support for the intelligence community. he is very much in the cross hairs. giving this speech presnowden, would

. >> professor you heard glen howard touch on it briefly, but this is not just another liolymc games.'t this post-russia's coming out party? and a lot of pressure to prove it is a success. >> certainly. it is the most expensive winter games ever staged with the cost of $61 billion. and that may have been why they were able to get these games. and i think if you think about it in that regard, even if there is terrorist action, the fact that right now we're sitting here talking about terrorism, rather than any other aspect of the olympics means that to some degree the terrorists are already starting to get what they wanted, which is to have this be the olympics that was about terrorism rather than about the new russia. >> is there some pressure on russia not to take outside help even with the offers that are coming from around the world, to show it can do this on its own? >> well, if you look at the demands that have historically been made by this group, they made a statement after the boston marathon bombing where they said they had nothing to do with it, first of all, but they also sa

reporting from pillar point harbor, glen ramirez, kpix5. >> here is one of the rides that helped twiggy take first place. waves today were up to 40 feet call and the conditions were intimidating even to the winner. >> the waves are pretty big. there were a couple of 20 feet ones. but every time you are about to get to your feet, it just looked unmake bl. looked like there is no way you are going to make it. i saw guys going on waves. it was just outrageous. >> well twiggy gets $12,000 for that winning ride. >>> well, most everyone can download an app, but can you create one? christin ayers shows up a group of young girls in oakland can, and they are getting some high profile support. >> reporter: like most nine- year-old girls, charmian butterfield likes dogs, but unlike other kids her age, butterfield has created an app for other doll lovers like herself. butterfield is a member of black girds code. an oakland nonprofit that teaches young african american girls to build websites and create apps and computer games like the one rebecca taylor made. >> we like to think of ourselves as the

glen, i want to bring you in here. i want to play for you something that marco rubio was saying today. i want to be clear it is probably a good thing or a potential point of progress that senator rubio wants to deal with inequali inequality. that's what he said he wants to do. >> what i am proposing today is the most fundamental change to how the federal government fights poverty and encourages upward mobility since president johnson first conceived the war on poverty 50 years ago today. i'm suggesting we turn over the poverty programs to the states. >> i give him points for the topic and zero points for the solution, which as you know and you've been in the heart of these debates, his solution strikes me to be no solution at all because what he's saying is discontinue the federal work here and see what happens at the local level. >> honestly, i think we need both. we have made big successes in the world on poverty, but in terms of is a safety net. it's a safety net that needs to be strong. the real issue is inclusion.

glen beck.he president had a, quote, deep seeded hatred of white people. now he has some regrets. >> i remember it as an awful lot of fun. unfortunately, tear the country apart. it's not who we are. >> self-reflection is a good thing and everybody deserves a second chance. if mr. beck wants to stop being a divider then he has to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. a few years ago mr. beck took issue with something i said about mormons so i went on his show to talk about it and i flew to salt lake city to visit elders in the mormon church and learn more about the faith. mr. beck should do something, show that he is serious about trying to be different. we all should grow. we all should do better. but if we don't walk the walk, if we don't back up words with action people will look at the lack of action and say it's just a new act. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> call the witnesses. let's play "hardball." >>> let me start tonight with this. like barnacl

david shuster, al jazeera. >> this afternoon my colleague tony harris spoke with glen greenwald. he said there was no need for government to indiscriminately collect huge amounts of information. >> the real question i think not enough people are asking is why should the u.s. government be keeping everybody's metadata? why does the records of everyone we l talk to and who we speak to and why we e-mail, why does that need to be preserved if we have done nothing wrong? there is no legitimate reason for it to be kept. people who have done something wrong should be monitored for surveillance in a health and well moderated system. >> underscore that nsa surveillance is a serious issue. joining us is joseph l hall, chief of a watchdog group in washington, d.c. joveest, welcome. what stood out to you in the president's speech today? >> most of the proposals were mod eggs if not less than modest reforms. some of the better things were in the secret court that makes decisions about surveillance, having a voice for the public, having a panel of public advocates that they could call on to he

you can join the conversation and send questions to glen green what walled at #andgreenwaldt.f this edition of "inside story." thanks for being with us. in washington, i am ray suarez. ♪ ♪ the case went all the way to the united states supreme court. at the heart of the case is the indian child welfare act or iqwa which tries to keep if children to their tribes. it was in response when a highly number of native children were removed from their families and

we're here with glen. he will preview what we might see. glen is the electronics editor for consumers reports. he is the one to ask about this. glen, what is the most anticipated item at ces this year? >> well, i think what we're going to see is a variety of items in the tv space that are going to be interesting, especially what they call ultrahd or uhdtvs. this is in one way to think about it, everyone has gotten an hd set, this is the next generation to out mode them all. next generation hd is a real bump up in resolution. it looks almost like a 35-millimeter photograph on your tv. some of these sets were launched last year at stratosphere i cannily high press es at $40,000. you will see that come down and a lot more sets. the interesting thing -- jenna: we have a little bit of a delay, and i apologize, just so viewers can understand what we're showing them, we're showing images of these television screens. they're curved? does that make them different? why does a curved television give us better image than flat screens a lot of us have?

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. >> reporter: people began to walk away from the willow glen funeral home. they are trying try to move forward but will not forget what she left behind. >>> powerful waves pushing a 47- year-old boogie border against the rocks. he was critically injured and trapped. it took two swimmers to pull him out. he was unconscious and later died. officials want you to be aware of the rough n!t9z-conditions. >>> a suspect in custody at a pleasanton bar. he was arrested when police found evidence related to crimes. he had meth amphetamine during the arrest. a man is recovering at red coat's pub. the suspect was pacing inside the bar and pulled out a hand gun and fired several shots at the ceiling. one struck a patron. >>> 19-year-old darion marcus aguilar has been named by police as the man who killed himself and two others and sent five to the hospital. they are trying to figure out his motive. he had a shotgun, a lot of ammunition and homemade bombs. he purchased the shotgun legally in december. >> reporter: low clouds pushing through the golden gate. low clouds comi

. >> glen close? >> yes, glen close. >> i just called them both crew well law deville.oming up, the c block. the c block is sponsored by steam loco motives. the railway wonders that produce their pulling power. thank you, greg. i would give you a ride any day. >> i am flattered, but i am not interested. you make me loco with desire. >> i gotta go. sorry. and it lets you control your dreams. we are still going to do the story anyway. >>> is the earth dead unless we go red? u.n's climate chief says communism is the best political system for fighting global warming and democracy is a dud. they claim the partisan divide in the u.s. is detrimental to passing any legislation to combat climate change. in communist china they want to breathe air they don't have to look at. they are not doing this because they want to save the planet. they are doing it because it is in the national interest. then she ate a baby panda. can't blame her. they look adore blee delicious. they wanted it. they wanted to be eaten. communism related to 100 million deaths in the 20th century. >> not that

. >>> after school counselor selling drugs to minors and offering marijuana at willow glen middle schooln jose. parents are shocked at the news. the 20-year-old is held on $5,000 bond and due in court tomorrow. >> reporter: the rain is moving in right on schedule. it is mainly through the north way. we zoom in. light showers over santa rosa and napa. we look toward the delta. we have moderate rainfall in the hills and walnut creek and danville. as we move toward the sierra we have rain at this hour. it is already turning to snow. it will increase as the colder air filters in. showing the tail end of the system to the south, a lot of rain has filtered to the north. it will filter to the bay area. we will see snow in the sierra. the 2:00 hour the rain sags down through the south bay. we will see some snow over lake tahoe. it turns to all snow by 5:00 in the morning. ularity later in the morning we will have the snow ongoing and will continue. we have a chance of showers through the day into the afternoon around 1:00, but it will not be expensive as tonight. rainfall totals will not be very

glen, the talk of 2016, it's rampant speculation as always.urg's interpretation? >> you mean because of bridge gazi? yes. >> there may be early triumphalism on the left. he isn't going gently into the good night. he's pretty good in public. he's holding up fairly well. what i think is really interesting here is i remember in 2012 the dnc and the white house were putting out these pictures of obama with christie and now our inbox is full of dnc videos whacking christie. the question for democrats is -- do they want to kill this guys candidacy this quickly? >> that's a really good point. there's a problem that some democrats may have, which is a foaming at the mouth, a visceral desire they may not be able to repress to get christie out of contention. one of the leaders in the new jersey state senate, a democrat, said we'd all like to close this chapter, but we have to let this play out. i'm sure democrats relish each day this is the headline. what's the play here for chris christie? does he keep his focus straight ahead as he seemed to do today

. >> earlier i spoke with journalist glen greenwald, the first to receive the trove of info from edward snowden. i asked him what he thought about president obama's reforms of the metadata program. >> there were some proposals in the speech, but in the face of scandal and public outrage over official actions to pretend to reform a system that has made americans so angry while in reality seek to make only the cosmetic changes t to placate te public anger and preserves the core essence of the nsa that makes so many people angry, that means people around the world will have their information monitored without a shred of suspicion. >> glen, i know you well enough that you did not expect the president to end this program with this speech today, did you? >> no, of course not. the fact that he felt compelled to give a lengthy speech which is the first time at a president has proposed real reforms to the national security agency sinc since 2009 9/11. it's the public pressure and those companies who feel threatened, i think we'll see the process and we're far from the end. >> we're going to amen

. >> all right, i know it had meryl streep or glen close. >> that was the choice. >> i still don't know what is going on. he still grapples with adams apples. hip hop luminary, mr. c -- you didn't know we were doing this story? >> i did, but when i read it i thought something else. >> what i am going to do is start at the top -- he grapples with adams apples. mr. c says he only gets falacio from transgender women so he is not gay. we pulled this story off "happen -- off of hannity's show. it is subject of tonight's -- >> red eye debate 2014 live from the red eye debate center. >> welcome back. i am glad you could join us. let's pick up where hannity left off. last year hot 97dj, mr. c confessed to picking up gay prostitutes or grostitutes, but insisted he is not gay. >> i know i am still in denial because i love women. any woman with me know i love women, but occasionally i get the urge to have falacio with a trans sexual, a man that looks like a woman. and then i'm sitting hearsaying, but i'm not gay. >> in a new interview with "gq" a magazine i am completely unfamiliar with he shrugs