first, glen beck and the future of media. and his political views and how he says he has changed over the years. here's part 2 and it's all about the future. think of beck as the face of beck, inc. a giant business that includes his daily radio show, book, live events and a popular website. forbes says his company earned $90 million a year. beck's biggest opportunity at all is here on cable television. he is trying to do what so many other big media personalities have only dreamed of doing, that is, to have a cable channel of his own. it's called the blaze. it has 12 hours of programming every day. you might not know about it. right now you might have the blaze on your cable lineup, but you probably don't. it's only in a fraction of the 100 million homes with cable and satellite in our country. the fact is it's very hard for independently owned channels to get carried but beck has a plan and it involves not just talk shows like the one he hosts now but scripted dramas, too. check out what he told me about where he's going. >>

when i say the name glen beck, i know you have some reaction. a captivating and controversial figure in the media. might i add, richest. when i hear his name the first thing that comes to my mind are profits. that's because three years ago when he left fox news he started to set up his own web side and office called the blaze. beck and his company earn 90 million dollars a year. let that sink in for a second. here's the most startling thing about beck. he says he has changed. what he has to say about his role in tearing the country apart, those are his words, are going to surprise you. it definitely surprised me when i spent time with him at his headquarters near dallas, texas. take a look. >> i'm curious what you said about your time at fox news. it was an awful lot of fun and i made a lot of mistakes. i wish i could go back. i think i played a role unfortunately in helping tear the country apart and it's not who we are. you must have been talking about something specific. what did you mean? >> no, i think we all -- i mean, i have -- i have spe

imagine, i have used this an nailing before, glen beck were in every anchor chair but pointed by theresident of the united states it is that perverse the sense of they are out to get us, it is profound. people who used to be on the margins, people who used to be on the kind of nutty margins of the discussion, have now been empowered to be on television, and are very forceful voices they go farther than putin, and in a sense, they allow putin to not only have his view amplified and amped up but for him to point to those guysay i am the reasonable one. >> but is there within russia, you know, a huge battle going on, about the future of the country? are there people who not just the middle class people you talked about but people of consequence, either a battle for putin's mind or battle for russia >> i wish there were. >> because it is not allowed by putin. >> part of the consequences, such state control, over the media, is that debate, is tamped down the degree to which that occurs is subterranean. or in the kitchen. the liberals are really in retreat they feel defeated, muffled, -- >

he's no different than shawn hannity, glen beck.s no different than many pundants. >> this is the brave new world we live in where people are sometimes involved in the stories they're covering. i understand why they make people uncomfortable. >> i don't think anyone in america is thinking al sharpton is trying to tow the middle. i think at times that work is necessary because when you talk about trayvon martin, that only hit the national scene before al sharpton arrived. >> they did put a national spotlight on it. by the way, msnbc, i talked to a person there who said in some cases he has brought more attention to issues that we should be covering, for example, voting rights issues. let me pull the up a quick statement from the president of msnbc phil griffin. he said al sharpton is both the president of the national action network and host on msnbc. we've always been transparent about his dual roles and his work outside of msnbc. >> seems reasonable to me. >> well, shawn han nilt at this is not professing to be some type of activis