involve having the grand jury consider voting out charges for an indictment. >> ken dilanian and glen kirschneren, i do appreciate that 101 class every time i get a chance to learn from you. so thank you for being with us. >>> up next, emotional testimony from writer e. jean carroll accusing donald trump of raping her. what happened when trump's lawyer questioned her on the (vo) with verizon, you can now get a private 5g network. so you can do more than connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a verizon private 5g network, you can get more agility and security. giving you more control of your business. we call this enterprise intelligence. from the network america relies on. my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... the burning, itching. the pain. emerge tremfyant®. with tremfya®, most people saw

case, she's with me on set christina greer, associate professor of political science at fordham glen kirschner, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. so, antonia, you and i were just talking, when does it end, just heard what ben crump had to say. you know, is it a crime todobels the latest on this case? >> that is the same question that has rocked people across the country, but of course black communities in kansas city and beyond here. and there is anger right now on the ground there is a little bit of relief for them that andrew lester will be facing these two major felony charges. but there is a question of why, days after the shooting he still has not been brought in to custody. where is he? what is going on what is causing this delay here is what we keep hearing from people on the ground and there have been some confusing elements of this case. of course, you mentioned the push for hate crime charges here, and hearing last night at the press conference that even the prosecutor acknowledged there is a racial component here but that's the extent of what we heard. people are wo

s request in the criminal trial, glen kirn kirschner is a former federal prosecutor and an msnbc legalnalyst. so ron, what's the latest from inside that courtroom where you are? >> reporter: it's been a very emotional day here, chris. e. jean carroll is on the witness stand. her testimony is continuing, and she has described to the jury in painful detail and breaking down in tears often about the alleged encounter where she says donald trump raped her in the fitting room of burgdorf goodman's luxury department store here in new york back in 1996. she described a very violent, aggressive encounter where he forced himself on her, where he pushed her against a wall and she banged her head against the wall she describes how he allegedly tore her tights, pulled her tights down and then allegedly raped her, and she describes how it was extremely pacinful and ho she was glad to get out of that particular situation by kneeing him, lifting her knee and kneeing him and getting out of there. and she said she was glad -- she was happy to be alive and glad that she wasn't dead as she ran out of the