glen mac said she's disappointed the proposal fails. of a more on that. let's speak to caterina body. she's a member and vice president of the european parliament body. you leaders rejected my cause. and michael suggestion to hold talks with putin. how is the use supposed to show strengths for moscow if it can show unity wealth was russia, it is very difficult for the european union to be united because the countries have so extremely different historical experiences with russia. so this is the area where probably is the most difficult to find common ground. and i think that have been good, good results reached. but yes, on this point to meet him or not, there was no agreement on that one. in a press conference angle, america defended the suggestion to talk to put in, let's have a quick listen. death getting up from people have taken a very different view of what's being proposed. well, it doesn't matter whether it's speaking with the russian president or the us president speaking with him. he didn't offer the russians any gift if i may put it like that.