. >>> joining us to take a deeper look at the crime surge is glen martin.der of just leadership u.s.a. and from los angeles, a former l.a.p.d. police chief, an assistant chief and then the deputy chief during the rode king incident. we appreciate your type of. i begin with you, you say by the time cops are aware of violent crime, they are responding to a mess. it's like saying doctors are responsible for cancer. explain. >> you know we life in a country where we are all too willing to mobilize law enforcement resources in response to crime. the truth is that public safety is not all about law enforcement, right. communities that are experiencing high crime want police officers, but they want public safety, and that is about education, employment, housing, health care those opportunities are the things that exist in other communities so the crime stays low. >> you have been a cop for 38 years, i've been a journalist for that same amount of time. over and over when we talk about surges in crime, we hear people say that until you fix the economics, the problem

. >> joining us now to take a deeper look at this crime surge is glen martin, leader of justice leadership angeles, former lapd police chief during the o.j. simpson saga and the the king incident. by the time the police are responding they're respond to go a mess and it's like saying that doctors are responsible for cancer. >> we live in a country where we're all too willing to deploy law enforcement to crime but public safety is not always about law enforcement. communities that are experiencing high crime police officers but they want public safety and it's about education, employment, housing healthcare. those sorts of opportunities are things that exist in other communities. >> mr. parks, you have been a cop for 38 years. i've ban journalist for that same amount of time. over and over again when we talk about surges in crime we hear people say until you fix the economics the problem is going to exist. are you saying the same thing over and over again or is it people are just not listening? >> i think people are not listening. if you look over the past 20 years and earlier you comment t

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