in my town in glen rock new jersey. budget increased by 25 percent this year. and that was what people signed off on years ago. you have to reflect when you have the money. you don't know what will happen down the road. >> pay outs are simply unsustainable. given the current budget crisis. >> i agree, a deal is a deal . you can't just say we are take back. as we are doing with pensions. >>> and mark, they are not suggesting ripping up the contracts but suggest they should sunset the rules . >> let's phase it in over time. and i think that is fair. but i don't think we can suddenly write it. the states are saying we are broke. we can't pay. fox news decided they would not pay you tomorrow. and they say yeah, we will not pay you, dennis. would you show up for work? >> the private sector finds it necessary sometimes to change the benefits they promised for retireees. because the future is changed for them it happens all of the time in the private sector. sometimes you have to try to change current contract terms. >> i didn't see the liberals doing that. >> you can