glen simpson who is the guy who was paid by the clinton campaign through the law firm perkins who went and hired the foreigner christopher steele who put this dossier together. he's not answering our questions. he took the 5th in front of the judiciary committee. it is interesting lou nadler sends out 81 letters to 60 some different individuals trying to get all the information he can but he doesn't send a letter to glen simpson. why is that? i think he's an important person that we need to get in, see if he will answer questions now, get documents and information from him so we can get to the bottom of all this. lou: at this point, do you think it would be appropriate, appropriate to have a grand jury to pursue each of these lines of inquiry that we're talking about here tonight? >> i think we need to remember a couple things. one, michael horowitz, the inspector general at the justice department is in fact doing an investigation. he's supposed to have his report sometime late spring, early summer. there's also john huber, u.s. attorney, state of utah, who is looking at the whole pote

just as i had the question before about his meeting with glen simpson, with fusion g.p.s. what did they talk about? how often did they meet as well? you know, adam schiff said a -- set a standard that said devin nunes had to recuse himself. it looks as though adam schiff has met that same standard. yesterday during that hearing, there's always been the saying that politics stops at the water's edge when the president is gone. i know we have differences of opinion. but we come from one country. when president trump is meeting with north korea, trying to get a denuclearization agreement, the idea that we could not postpone, that we could not show the rest of the world that america stands together to denuclearize north korea, i think that was another misstep by this majority. let's go to questions. >> the president said that he believes kim jong un didn't know about the reason for otto warmbier's arrest. do you agree? >> you know, just two years ago at the state of the union, we watched someone's parents be a guest of this president. i'm also very proud of the fact when i was

he's working closely with glen simpson today with christopher steele, the former british spy who hillary clinton and the dnc paid. let's working with him -- he's working with him today. he puts out a daily e-mail to -- to reporters and democratic committee staffers on the hill still peddling the russia collusion hoax. still peddling stories completely disproven and he's still getting hits in the media even today. >> tucker: any idea who's paying for that? >> he has admitted it's being paid for by george soros, by rob reiner, meat head from all in the family, this impeach trump now deal. these guys have put up -- i think it's almost over $10 million right now. by the way, while my family and j.d. gordon's family and carter page's family and dozens of other families related to the trump kind of orbit have gone completely bust due to this bogus russia investigation, they're getting rich. rich beyond their wildest dreams. and here's the thing, tucker. i know you -- you believe and others believe that there's nothing criminal going on here, but i disagree. all you got to do is look up 18 usc

adam schiff had a private meeting with glen simpson, the head of fusion gps.e didn't disclose it to the committee. there's no reason why he should be leading this investigation. we should all be calling for his recusal from this investigation. >> let me ask you about the republican side of the aisle. you think about there's a democratic primary going on. will president trump run unopposed in the gop primary? what do you do if john kasich or larry hogan say, i'm jumping in? >> they have the right to jump in and lose. they will lose horribly. the president has 93% approval in our party. our country is booming. jobs are coming back. wages are up. our military has been strengthened. our veterans have been taken care of. our trade deals are stronger. we have put rule of law judges at every level of the courts, including the supreme court with kavanaugh and gorsuch. what would any republican be thinking saying this is a guy i'm going to run against? have at it. go ahead. waste your money and time and go ahead and lose. >> one of the things i have been hearing you ha

glen simpson. the guy the clinton campaign hired to put it together.l those conversations that bruce orr had with glen simpson, christopher steele. i want those recorded -- those notes from the fbi. i want all that made public. i want the fisa application to be made public. they used that dossier. took it to a secret court. didn't tell the court the clinton campaign paid for the document. didn't tell the court a foreigner who was desperate to stop trump from being elected president wrote the document. if they're going to release everything, release it all. >> let's be clear. you agree all the underlying documents should be released, top to bottom, the mueller report should be released. we have just gone through the special counsel regulations. there is nothing in the law that precludes the attorney general from releasing all of that. >> i'm saying the attorney general should follow the statute. that's what he's indicated he is going to do. in consultation with rod rosenstein and bob mueller. i think the democrats should be happy with that. they said bo

at the same time he was meeting with glen simpson, he was still -- glen simpson was being the interestved he did not tell the truth or his statements were different than other statements so they want to relook at him. now we find out in the cohen investigation that, yeah, he was talking to cohen. he, his staff, somebody, we asked this question of cohen and cohen said that. that didn't happen before. maria: they were coaching him? >> yes. but the other thing we found out too is remember when we tried to find out who paid for the dossier. it was schiff who found, we had to go to court. these are questionses we have to get answered. in schiff's own standards on whether he should recuse himself, he has met that standard. he should step back from any investigation inside the intel committee when it comes to investigating the president. maria: has he responded to your calls for him to step down and recuse himself. >> he got asked this on cbs yesterday. i think we probably hit a cord here. adam schiff laid the standard out for every other member of congress of whether somebody can trust any i

individuals that they didn't sent the individuals to, the two most important in any judgment, glen simpsonhe clinton campaign to put together the dossier and christopher steele, the guy simpson hired to write the dossier that started this crazy ordeal this those two didn't get a letter. the mueller report is not going to say what they wanted. they put all of their eggs in that basket. i don't think it's going to say what they wanted. it's going to say there was no collusion, i think. so they've got to figure out something else. they're going on a fishing expedition but they don't go after the two people to get information from the two most important people that started this whole thing. lou: congressman, i particularly enjoy it when you and i talk past each other. i'm talking illegal immigration and trade and the working mane and woman and the middle class families and you're talking truth, justice and the american way. and i like that as well. >> i'm talking about the forces against this president, the forces against the american people. that's what we've got to keep fighting against and

it is based largely on this phony dossier that was conjured by two individuals, glen simpson in christopher's field. clemson has now clammed up. steal it was line and is now in hiding. >> is an unbelievable story. both of you, have been the forefront of documenting what really went on. just want to bring you in with a very specific question which goes to the real when you look at what is being said on other networks and by leading democrats, they are glossing over the no collusion, unsurprisingly. they're focused on obstruction question. and that's where the argument is going. robert mueller declined to state whether or not there was obstruction by the president. he said, i will leave that up to you to decide. the attorney general, with rod rosenstein, very clearly has said in their legal opinion there is no obstruction. what you're getting from the other side is it's none of their business. if not for attorney jar to bar to decide is for congress to decide. we don't understand why he did it but it certainly not a member of his cabinet. what you think of that? that seems to be the centerpiece

complaint against schiff over this improper contact with cohen along with a secret meeting with glen simpson. just happened to run into each other while simpson was a key witness in this ongoing committee probe. he needs to not only be reduccue recuseed, he needs to be investigated fully. you do have the right to remain silent, but i think we both know that is not going to happen. he is in love. it is rage, compulsive trump ba bashing. we have a lot more to get to. joining us now with reaction to this huge -- and i bet he read twice all pages. he's a maniac when it comes to this. the author of "the russian hoax," greg jarrett, sarah carter, and the ranking member of the judiciary committee doug collins from georgia. first of all, congressman, i want to say thank you. all of us and so many others that have been a part of our team that has broken a lot of stories on this program -- and i give all credit to their hard work -- we have been saying, release this, release this. it is to much more to come. 302s, fisa applications, gang of eight. what -- what now can we expect now that you have broke

it is based largely on this phony dossier that was conjured by two individuals, glen simpson in christopher's field. clemson has now clammed up. steal it was line and is now in hiding. >> is an unbelievable story. both of you, have been the forefront of documenting what really went on. just want to bring you in with a very specific question which goes to the real when you look at what is being said on other networks and by leading democrats, they are glossing over the no collusion, unsurprisingly. they're focused on obstruction question. and that's where the argument is going. robert mueller declined to state whether or not there was obstruction by the president. he said, i will leave that up to you to decide. the attorney general, with rod rosenstein, very clearly has said in their legal opinion there is no obstruction. what you're getting from the other side is it's none of their business. if not for attorney jar to bar to decide is for congress to decide. we don't understand why he did it but it certainly not a member of his cabinet. what you think of that? that seems to be the centerpiece

i mean, christopher steel was also shopping this around and glen simpson was pushing both of them to push this out through the state department, journalists, like the "washington post," cnn, everybody else, and now we know andrew weisman, who was a lead prosecutor on robert mueller's team was also informed by bruce orr that the dossier was full of lies. so here we have a dossier that the f.b.i. basically told, they basically told the fiser courts -- it was nothing but lies. >> sean: let me bring up a point. steele is getting paid by four people. steele doesn't stand by his own dossier and here's the fascinating thing. if anybody says, and remember, andrew mccain, deputy f.b.i. director comey said, no dossier, no fiser warrant. think about this. now, there were two signed off on, the original and the first subsequent renewal application. i know comey signed the first one, sarah, did he sign the second? >> i know he signed the second. i don't know if he signed the first. >> sean: on october 16, congressman, james comey signs off before the fisa court. they withheld that hillary paid fo

government officials and one of the main drivers was the co-founder of gps glen simpson, accused of providing conflicting testimony to congress about the handling of the dossier. our reporting has shown the dossier came through multiple unofficial channels to the fbi in the summer and fall of 2016 and what appeared to be an effort to lend the document credibility and as you know in his testimony, the president's former attorney michael cohen, had said he never been to prague. that was one of the central claims of the dossier. >> trace: thanks, catherine. in a major show of defiance, juan guaido returned to the company. he landed at the airport in caracas and tweeted that he passed through immigration checks. the government had banned him from leaving venezuela, but he left anyway. he met with latin american leaders and vice president mike pence. the u.s. and dozens of other countries have recognized guaido as venezuela's leader instead of disputed president nicholas maduro. the 2020 presidential field getting more crowded today. coming up, another democrat joining the race. plus, developments

chris steele and glen simpson.er the dossier and christopher steele the guy who wrote the dossier which was the basis for this whole false investigation the democrats have law firmed. >> bill: sir, thank you for your time. >> you bet. >> bill: you have a few votes today, thank you for taking time out of your day. >> thank you. >> sandra: dangerous outbreak of measles across the country. a story we have been watching. the question are they linked to misinformation? a live report next. i would like to take a moment to address my fellow veterans, because i know so many of you have served our country honorably. one of the benefits that we as a country give you as a veteran is your eligibility for a va loan. which lets you buy a home with no down payment. now there's no reason to rent when you can own. with automatic authority from the va, we can say yes when banks say no. helping veterans buy homes, that's newday usa. call 1-855-678-9927 your favorite restaurants now it doesn't matter dash. where you are. ♪ it doesn't

. >> glen simpson from fusiongps. >> i don't believe i ever met him. no. >> anybody associated with fusiongps. >> you'd have to tell me who's affiliated with them. >> nelly orr? >> no. >> what about bruce ore? >> no. >> jonathan winer, state department? >> i know of jonathan winer, we were on the list together of people putin wanted to arrest after tehelsinki. i don't think i ever met him, sir. >> christopher steele? >> to. >> benjamin wittis? >> i know him, yes. >> what about michael isikoff? >> i know him. i've met him a few times. we're not colleagues. >> okay. i'm going to ask you, your name pops up in a lot of articles in 2016. matter of fact, you're one of the first folks to talk about carter page. there's a june 17th, 2016, "washington post" article written by tom hamburger where you and david cramer are sourced in that article. are you familiar with that article? >> sir, no the off the top of my head but i know that reporter, yes, and i know david cramer, used to work for the bush administration, yeah. >> how did you know carter page was going