, also there's a littl bit of glenn, give me a second.going to have joining m now this conversation, civil rights attorney and former prosecutor charles coleman charles, if you are with us, h good morning i know we are bringing you an. we have some breaking news i know you are familiar with the post that was just done by former president donald trum on truth social. asking, indicating asking his followers to appear to protest, to protest and t take our nation back but most importantly, charles, former president donald trum indicating that he will be arrested on tuesday of nex week now, given according to this post he is blaming it on leaks that came from the manhattan da's office. but, charles, i will pick up the question is about oppose to glenn we know that the forme president of the united states donald trump has united states secret service protection. that was already creating little bit of an unusual security situation, as you and i both know. criminal defendant comes in, either in handcuffs or not fingerprints, it has to go through

we also know that she played a very significant role in glenn and john glenn has said throughout his life and at the end of his life that he not venture into space if katherine johnson was not checking the calculations on his spaceflight and so the actual flight with john glenn, where he orbited the earth, katherine johnson played a significant role in them. and we know that captain played a significant role in the moon landing. and so those are three pivotal moments that changed space and how we in the united states of america nasa today i had the pleasure on catherine's 99th birthday to be with her at the greenbrier at. ed at 99, i was in awe of just how sharp she still was. we laughed, we joked. we had a great time and she as as radiant and beautiful. at 99 than she was when she walked our campus back in the early thirties. and so when i left that, that ninth birthday, i started ask myself right as people learn more and more about katherine johnson as the university she loved so dear and we love her. we have to do something to help recognize her and make sure history never forgets

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glenn, you are the prosecutor here. i'm going to start with you. what do you make of that abc reporting, about trump knowingly misleading his attorneys, about classified documents. >> you know, symone, if that report is accurate, then a charge against donald trump for obstructing justice, or making a false official statement, what we call a 1001 statement, those charges will be legal layups, because if the prosecution can use down trump's own lawyer -- i know prosecutors are already using down trump's own lawyer, michael cohen, against him in new york -- i think this presents a very different kind of legal case. if they were to use evan corcoran as a witness against his former client, donald trump, and there was compelling evidence that after trump had been subpoenaed to turn over all of the classified documents, instead of complying with that subpoena, he told his lawyer to lie for him and represent to the federal government, you've got it all. i have nothing left. of course, we know that's untrue. because of subsequent fbi search found classified

, not t worry glenn, they will both be with us all throughout the res of the hour. we will dig into more of these details as you are sayin they're garrett. we will follow the lates developments in the potentia criminal charges against the former president throughou this hour. now near congressman, richie torres also joins us next with his reaction to all of this. plus a look at this ne legislation in the wake of massive bank failures and an inside look at the unusual behavior of governor ron desantis that may not be fitting of a potential presidential front runne including a now infamous repor of his strange eating habits >> [inaudible] >> [inaudible] this cough. [sfx: coughs] this'll help. vicks vaporub? vicks vaporub's ...medicated vapors go straight to the source of your cough... ...so you can relieve your cough to breathe easier. vicks vaporub. fast-acting cough relief. everything's changing so quickly. ...so you can relieve your coubefore the xfinityer. 10g network, we didn't have internet that let us play all at once. every device? in every room? why are you u

please welcome virginia governor glenn youngkin. >> thank you so much. good to see you. >> how is everybody? how are you? thank you. thank you. >> have a seat, sir, if you would. education is the key issue for you, perhaps more so than any other governor in the country. you ran your campaign on it. you issued your first executive order on it. why? why is this issue your main focus? >> well, first of all, jake, i want to say thank you. thanks to cnn for hosting tonight. i want to thank all the virginians that are here. thanks for coming from all over the commonwealth and focusing on these most important topic where. we almost have to step back a little bit and reflect on the fact that virginia was known to have the best high schools. we have the best colleges, the best universities ranging all the way from thomas jefferson high school which is ranked number one in the country as the best high school, to our revered hbcus, to a higher ed system that's ranked top in the country. and yet here we are at ground zero, ground zero in the debate and the battle ov

glenn maxwell believes she was blamed for epstein's crimes too. >> satisfy public outrage. there are victims here. >> how do you address? how does she address? they're terrible experience. she acknowledged. >> they're suffering. and as expressed considerable empathy. >> maxwell's appeal claims among other things that a juror failed to disclose. he was a victim of child abuse. as for reported little black book in secret videotapes in maxwell says if there were smoking guns, they would have come to the surface by now. still, he fears for his sister's safety. if they're all of a. >> people that have not yet come into. the prosecution's little bit and who may be powerful people don't wish to be. involved in this. somehow that they would find ability to. i'm not a my sister to have an accident that looks like an accident. but isn't. >> it may take more than 6 months for her appeal to be heard. in the meantime, in maxwell says his family is standing by their sister. we all have family. we love we and we will support and defend her. >> there have been a number of documentaries sai

they are upset about everything that got glenn youngkin elected.closing critical race theory. is opposing the idea of explicit books and not allowing biological men to go to the women's restroom. those are his opinions. he got elected. this extreme allowed a group extremist, big malls want to shut him down. and i'm begging glenn duncan to appear like every other governor of virginia, steve. >> steve: i went to college. he went to college. i was in the '70s back in the good old days. when you would actually hear from both sides. and you would be in the quad. you would be at the student union. you would hear a speaker from each side. they would say their piece. they would be applause for each of the speakers. but then you had a great idea of what was going on. instead, they just want blinders on where you can't see what the other side thinks. you just have demonized them. >> that is the extremist playbook. they want to shut down opposing viewpoints. if you do not agree with them, they want to silence. i am a product of those '70s. i was president of

here, glenn kirschner, what peter baker, like you so much. when we come back, pulling back the curtain on fox news. we might just call it an fox we've got the. news means defamation suit exposing the inconsistencies between what you see on tv and what is going on behind the scenes. michael steele and basil smikle are here, and they have there's going to be compromise with republicans. there are a few that the white house hopes they can get compromise on. things like crime prevention, things like rail safety, defense, national security issues, things like that. and they will have to ultimately come to some sort of agreement to fund the government. but they are not going to get , and they don't expect to get the things that the president is talking about in terms of paid leave or what he wants to do to shore up medicare, for instance, because of the way that he pays, proposes to pay for these things. those are political things that he can essentially campaign on if he does decide to run, which he is expected to in 2024. at his event today, in p

so what that night of their his own family think he was mad at my sister thinks he was met. >> glenn maxwell believes she was blamed for epstein's crimes too, satisfy public outrage. there are victims here. >> how do you address? how does she address? they're terrible experience. she acknowledged. >> they're suffering. and as expressed considerable empathy. >> maxwell's appeal claims among other things that a juror failed to disclose. he was a victim of child abuse. as for reported little black book in secret videotapes in maxwell says if there were smoking guns, they would have come to the surface by now. still, he fears for his sister's safety. >> if they're all of a people that have not yet come into. the prosecution's orbit and who may be powerful people don't wish to be. involved in this. somehow that they would find ability to. i'm not a my sister to have an accident that looks like an accident. but isn't. >> it may take more than 6 months for her appeal to be heard. in the meantime, in maxwell says his family is standing by their sister. we all have family. >> we love we and w

you response to that, glenn? >> yeah, i think they ar targeting donald trump's criminal defense attorneys because they are investigating obstruction of justice involving some of our nation's most highly guarded secrets, classified documents it is rare we don't often try to take the attorney who's representing defendant or target in a grand jury investigation and put tha personin a grand jury becaus we understand and appreciate the importance of the attorney client privilege however, if it looks like th attorney is involved i criminal conduct, either knowingly, being complicit i the crimes of the client or, i the client is using th attorney unwittingly t facilitate's crimes, either on of those two circumstances can cause the crime fraud exceptio could be applied to th attorney client relationship and it will yield. of course, which one of thos two things best characterize what evan corcoran has done is really important because if he is complicit in the crimes o donald trump, then he will probably march into the gr

here is one that doesn't want glenn youngkin to speak at the school.his. >> in a society when you hear people's ideas but when they target people on this campus, it enrages people. we are upset about this decision. >> ashley: andrew, what is your response to that? >> i mean, everybody is open to their own opinion. but to shut somebody down because they oppose your beliefs is absolutely absurd. mason, like i mentioned before advocates for free speech and once you have an open dialogue on campus, i actually applaud mason's administration for coming out with a statement saying they back up governor youngkin and allowing him to speak because they do strongly believe on public university, everybody should be able to express their opinions. >> ashley: you know, right now as we said the university president is still backing this. let's hope that they stay firm with this and the left doesn't make him cave. that is always my concern with situations like this but hopefully it stays that way it is. ken meekins and andrew frohmiller, good luck to you both. thank y

out >> glenn, could any of this mean anything. it's helps clear a path. >> what doj has been i'll be in a civil case, not a criminal case. they've announced one of the defenses donald trump might have tried to raise, whether first amendment or absolute immunity, they have been taken away. i think that will be helpful as an atmospheric for jack smith, but you know, the pace that jack smith has set in the months he's been a special counsel. has pretty much signaled that he is all about business, he is without fear or favor kind of prosecutor based on a number of the people he subpoenaed and a number of the battles that he has chosen to wage in court. that i think this is going to be sort of another helpful development for him, but i think he's just going to continue to plow forward. >> let's plow forward in terms of the truth, chief. donald trump, today, again, while defending himself, claimed that he authorized up to 20,000 national guard troops on january 6th, and he blamed nancy pelosi and the mayor of d. c., saying that those tw

we're talking about glenn maxwell, who along with jeffrey epstein was convicted of trafficking.ng girls actually met her sister several years ago here in the bay area and only recently had the chance to talk with their brother. >> from london, it's an interview you'll only see on kron 4. from prince's to president's big names are associated with the epstein scandal. >> everything that's happening, tabloids, royalty. politicians lady at the center of it all. >> glenn maxwell is at the center of an international scandal involving her former boyfriend jeffrey epstein. speaking for her, her brother ian maxwell. >> she was she had never met jeff, an up-tick. because the how about that relationship house cools? >> glenn maxwell is serving a 20 year sentence at the tallahassee federal prison for her role in trafficking, underage victims. she's now filed an appeal saying she didn't get a fair trial. it was basically of a a stitch-up. >> from off jeffrey epstein died. >> in. >> u.s. government custody when william bomb was attorney general, the billionaire financier was found hanged in h

legal analyst glenn kirschner joins us as well. garrett, what have you seen or heard today, if anything, of the comings and goings? what's the very latest? >> reporter: chris, we're all operating on the same scraps of information. no signs of costello or cohen yet. that shouldn't be a surprise. the grand jury typically meets in the afternoon. we would expect to potentially see them sometime here in the next hour or two. what we have seen is an enhanced police presence downtown as law enforcement has been getting ready, following the same information we are, for the possibility that an indictment could be handed up this week and we could be in vastly uncharted territory with criminal charges against a former president. they don't know either. we understand there's a planning call happening today with law enforcement as they try to figure out what kind of posture they need to take down here at the courthouse and potentially to deal with protests here or other parts of the city. you mentioned costello's mission, the presumption of his

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i'm liking your office, glenn. i like what you've done with it. no, this is a beautiful place.: glenn is in charge of the site, and tells me how the problems here started in the 1970s, when the temple was first excavated. they uncovered this cool monument, but didn't do a wonderfuljob of doing the things necessary to preserve it for future generations. whenever you excavate a monument, you have to pull a lot of the earth out of the ground in order to reveal it. and so, this earlier project dumped a lot of that earth. and so, as you'll see, we're trying to re—excavate those earlier archaeological dumps. the dumps are huge mounds of compressed earth which will take years to sort through. at the moment, there's a team of local people tackling this mammoth task. we have specialists who come and actually work and train and work with the local community, and not have them just be regular day labourers that sort of help with manual labour, but actually training them in the tangible vocational skills to help them preserve the site in the coming years. and the idea is that the locals th

glenn, you're the prosecutor, here i'll start with you. what do you make of the abc reporting, about trump knowingly misleading his attorney, whether classified documents. >> you, know simone, if that reporting is accurate, then a charge against donald trump for obstructing justice, for making a false official statement, what we call a 1001 statement, those charges will be legal layups, because if the prosecution -- i know prosecutors already using donald trump's lawyer, michael cohen against him of a new york. i think this presents a very different kind of legal case. if they were to use and corcoran's witness against his former client, donald trump. it's compelling evidence that after trump had been subpoenaed, they turn over all the classified documents, you don't lose lorelei for him and represent the federal government, you have it, all i have nothing left. of course we know that them, true because of subsequent fbi search, unclassified documents, in donald trump's desk drawers, and vin corcoran is a witness against donald trump. to p

you know, we're actually talking about glenn maxwell, who along with jeffrey epstein was convicted offficking. young girls might remember that vicki liviakis actually met with her sister several years ago here in the bay area. and recently, vicki had the chance to talk with her brother from london. in an interview you'll see only on kron 4. >> from prince's to president's big names are associated with the epstein scandal. >> everything that's happening to tabloids, royalty. politicians, lady at the center of it all. >> glenn maxwell is at the center of an international scandal involving her former boyfriend jeffrey epstein. speaking for her, her brother ian maxwell. >> she was she had never met jeff, an up-tick. because the how relationship has cools. >> glenn maxwell is serving a 20 year sentence at the tallahassee federal prison for her role in trafficking, underage victims. she's now filed an appeal saying she didn't get a fair trial. it was basically of a a stitch-up. >> from off jeffrey epstein died. >> in. >> u.s. government custody when william bomb was attorney general, the bi

glenn, let start with you. first, let me get your reactio to this news we got today. tomorrow's grandeu schedule, michael cohe standing as a rebuttal witness for bob costello who's also cohen's forme lawyer how do you see that playing out? what's at play here? >> it doesn't surprise me, ayman, that they may b inviting michael cohen back to shed some light on what bo costello said. at one point in time whe michael cohen was thinking about basically flipping breaking away from donald trump, beginning to tell the trut about his own crimes, th crimes of donald trump bob costello was dispatched, t try to keep michael cohen back into the fold. all tell, you if i were prosecutor and i got to di into a guy like bob costello i the grand jury, boy, i have whole lot of fun doing at people may not know tha often prosecutors well a grand jury cases exhaustively, what mean, by that they'll put ever witness before the grand jur that they believe has relevant evidence not just relevant evidence tha might incriminate the target of the investigation, an forward the investigation, but p

glenn, i want to play just a little more from trump's attorney, joe tacopina who was talking about those 30 counts. >> if it's correct, it means they've taken each transaction, each check, each payment, each entry and made it a separate charge i still think it's going to all rise and fall on the issue of this settlement agreement, a very legal, a very common settlement agreement, and how it applies to campaign finance laws >> is that what this is all about, glenn is this really just taking one case and turning it into a whole series of different point by point by point points of interest and turning that into 30 charges >> we don't know because the indictment hasn't been unsealed, but we will know soon enough i guess i wonder whether defense attorney tacopina has ever drafted an indictment. i've drafted hundreds and i find it amusing that he complains that it may be the prosecutors set out a separate criminal charge for each check. well, chris, when we indict -- let's assume that you have donald trump signing ten checks over the course of ten months as a part of a criminal scheme to defr

glenn. ms. swearer. >> chairman driven ranking member graham and distinguished senators last june in berlin the supreme court affirmed ordinary law-abiding americans have the right to bear guns in public for self-defense. b they struck down new york's restrictive public hairy framework which required applicants tofr prove they had proper cause to exercise their constitutional right. the brunette was usually insurmountable. additionally byrne rejected bulower courts use to of the cheightened scrutiny approach d that allowed many courts to find a gun law but they couldn't find constitutional. under bruin is consistent with historical tradition of firearms regulations. after bruin some politicians immediately responded with fear-mongering about its potentially devastating public safety consequences. today the title of this hearing presupposes albeit with fewer theatrics that t bruin is a thig for which the public must be protected. this is simply not true. the immediate impact on public safety is p

glenn, what do you make of these developments, as they are unfolding?for example. >> you know, jack smith seems to be going scorched earth. you know, he's fighting hard for accountability. you know, not only trying to secure the testimony of mike pence and he will succeed. mike pence will see the inside of a grand jury room, and he will be compelled to testify, because his attempt at asserting these privileges will fail, and then equally dramatic is jack smith's attempt to basically flip donald trump's own defense attorney, evan corcoran, against him, because it looks like, according to a finding by chief judge, merrill howell, that donald trump was using evan corcoran in furtherance of submitting crimes. so, the only remaining question, michael, is, was evan corcoran complicit in the crimes or was he being used unwittingly? if unwittingly, he has no fifth amendment right against self incrimination. if he is complicit, he will fleet plead the fifth. didn't jack smith will have a decision to make. do i -- even corcoran and compel him to testify about the

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i am vern glenn. >>> we have you covered with final four match ups. the aztecs face owls of florida atlantic on kpix5. that starts at 3:09. after that, miami hurricanes and uconn huskies will battle for spot in the national championship. >>> in dallas, biggest stars of women's basketball will take the stage. defending champion and undefeated south carolina battling iowa. lsu and virginia tech face off in the women's final four. >> lots of great basketball. now the weather is fabulous. so you want to go outside but there is great tv to watch. it's hard. >> split the day half and half. >> perfect. >> this is a great opportunity to take the kiddos outside. a lot of people have cabin fever after two days of crazy weather. we dealt with hail, thunder lighing wednesday. we had windy conditions tuesday. the winds are light. look at the american flag. it is barely breezy with the onshore flow. we will warm up just a hair more in the inland areas to the low 60s today. we have some rain in the forecast but don't get alarmed. it's light and speckles of showers t

we're also joined by glenn kirschner, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst.one will tell you, you want to know what was happening inside that jury room. their interview was fascinating. what stood out to you? >> reporter: well, the big question here was was there any one thing that helped to seal alex murdaugh's fate. what we heard from those jurors and as you just heard there, there was. it was the video shot by his late son paul at the kennels where you overhear alex murdaugh's voice in the background of that video just minutes before both maggie and paul were gunned down. that is after murdaugh had said he told investigators repeatedly that he had not been there. of course, during the trial, he took the stand in his own defense, admitting that he had lied. but jurors said that that was a mistake and that did nothing to help his case. i want to play a little bit of what they had to say about that. >> do you think he hurt himself by taking the stand? did he make it worse? >> i think he did. >> yes. >> why? >> i just think that we already know that he's a law

still ahead, we're going to hear from the brother of convicted socialite glenn maxwell. >> about herempt to appeal. this is an interview you will only see on kron 4. her high profile case probably had you glued to the tv set. we're talking about the lane maxwell who along with jeffrey epstein was convicted. >> of trafficking, young girls. kron four's lift vicki liviakis recently spoke with her brother and this is an interview you will only see on kron 4. >> from prince's to president's big names are associated with the epstein scandal. >> everything that's happening, tabloi-s, royalty. politicians lady at the center of it all. >> glenn maxwell is at the center of an international scandal involving her former boyfriend jeffrey epstein. speaking for her, her brother ian maxwell. >> she wished she had never met jeff, an up-tick. because how about and that relationship has cools. >> glenn maxwell is serving a 20 year sentence at the tallahassee federal prison for her role in trafficking, underage victims. she's now filed an appeal saying she didn't get a fair trial. it was basically of a

jitters because of that, someone said to glenn youngkin, something big is happening.e is now the governor. >> in his first year and a half as governor, he is actually following through. imagine that to a republican politician following through on what he said he was going to do. in 2010, in your pocket right now, you have the equivalents of a television studio from the late 1980's. you have the kind of video editing and distribution power that a cable news network in the 90's would be envious of. 1.9 million people waiting to see your video. >> it shows the power of the individual. someone like me with no background or experience with any of this, i had no network no connections or nothing. i started it and grew to what it is in have such a impact. every single person in this room could do the same thing. every single person should stand up. if you see something you should say something. it is so easy with social media. you're a reporter by having a cell phone and a twitter account, instagram account. >> that is how you beat the media bias. i know this panel was going

glenn beck. wow. i'm reprocessing that for a couple of days. i really appreciate your coming on tonight. thank you. >> thank you, tucker. thank you. so i think it's become pretty obvious to any one who's paying close attention and being honest with himself that what you're seeing is not really a contest between republicans and democrats. the left and right. it's a contest between the people in charge and everybody else. it's not actually parties in a traditional sense. there's really one party on the big issue, the big issues being economics and foreign policy. >> there's total agreement in washington. >> and so once you understand that, then you can go backward into recent history and reassess a lot of the things that you saw through a very different lens. and one of those things is the imprisonment of the democratic governor of illinois, rod blagojevich. and in retrospect, it's very obvious that he was sent to prison for political reasons, incarcerated for eight years on bogus corruption charges. >> his case is a lot more interesting than mos

suddenly, glenn community. , appear just , it would appear that just because support sadiq because i don't support sadiq khan his policies or, for khan or his policies or, for example, drag queens, entertaining that entertaining young children that glenn that he feels like glenn says that he feels like he's suddenly become the birth of he says , i don't of the above. he says, i don't care other people think, care what other people think, but you couldn't make all of this up, could you? by the way, that story, i'll be that drag queen story, i'll be touching before end touching on that before the end of show. have you seen it of the show. have you seen it grown men thongs and bondage grown men in thongs and bondage get gyrating to babe face. get up gyrating to babe face. honestly, i promise you, i think this world gone mad this world has gone mad sometimes . this world has gone mad sometimes. so i do. and we'll touch on that before the end of the show. i'm going to the show. but i'm going to take a quick when i c

glenn beck, wow. let me process that for a couple of days.ppreciate you coming on tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you, tucker. >> i think it is obvious to anyone who's paying close attention and being honest of themselves. what you are seeing is not a contest between republicans and democrats, the left and the right, it is a contest between the people in charge and everybody else. it is not actually partisan in a traditional sense. there is only one party on the big issue and the big issue being economics and foreign policy, there is total agreement in washington. and so, once you understand that then you can go backward in to recent history and reassess a lot of things you saw through different lens. one of those things is the imprisonment of the democratic governor of illinois. it is obvious that he was sentenced to prison for political reasons and incarcerated for eight years on bogus corrupt charges. he's learned a lot. his respond to the indictment of donald trump. he wrote this. quote. "president trump fired me and freed me and now he's

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great to have you all here wit us glenn, i'll start with you first, let me get your reactio to this news that we got today about tomorrow's grandeu essential. michael cohen, standing as a rebuttal witness for bob costello, who's also - former lawyer. how do you see that playing out? what's at play here? >> you know, it doesn' surprise me that they may be inviting michael cohen back to shed some light on whatever it is bob costello says the reporting is that one poin in time, when michael cohen wa thinking about basically flipping, breaking away from donald trump, beginning to tel the truth about his own crimes and the crimes of donald trump bob stella was dispatched to try to keep michael cohen back in the fold. i tell, you if i was a prosecutor, and i got to dig into a guy like bob costello i the grand jury, boy, and have whole lot of fun doing people may not know that often prosecutors will grand jur cases exhaustively what do i mean by that they will put every witnes before the grand jury that the believe has relevant evidence. not just relevant evidence tha might incriminate the targ

glenn beck . good to see you. glenn beck. good to see you. i don't have an alternative to take that. i mean, that's the first i heard that eyes were gouged out . i that eyes were gouged out. i must say that was used to me also. that's not that's not true. and you're exactly right about the five officers. i mean, look , i'm not here to defend the look, i'm not here to defend the january six people any any of them. i was on the air two days before saying , do not go to the before saying, do not go to the caphol before saying, do not go to the capitol. don't bad things will happen. and it was only common sense. so the people that broke windows and were , you know, windows and were, you know, causing mayhem and wishing people harm, those people should be in jail. full force of the law should be used fair , just law should be used fair, just like the full force of the law should have been imposed with people who were involved in the blm riots . there were some were blm riots. there were some were people that actually had something to say. and want

glenn beck . good to see you. glenn beck. good to see you.on't have an alternative to take that. i mean, that's the first i heard that eyes were gouged out . i that eyes were gouged out. i must say that was used to me also. that's not that's not true. and you're exactly right about the five officers. i mean, look , i'm not here to defend the look, i'm not here to defend the january six people any any of them. i was on the air two days before saying , do not go to the before saying, do not go to the caphol before saying, do not go to the capitol. don't bad things will happen. and it was only common sense. so the people that broke windows and were , you know, windows and were, you know, causing mayhem and wishing people harm, those people should be in jail. full force of the law should be used fair , just law should be used fair, just like the full force of the law should have been imposed with people who were involved in the blm riots . there were some were blm riots. there were some were people that actually had something to say. and wanted t

. >> glenn when, you look at this, what is the next challenge for trump's lawyers and again we d not know what the challenges are but given the situatio that we are, in what do yo think we are in for? >> well i agree with claire, one of the biggest challenge will be controlling thei client because he seems to b his own worst enemy. but i think that the nex immediate task after he is booked and of course, the plac will fill out all the paperwork, they will fingerprint him, they'll take an arrest photo o a mugshot, and you will be walked into court for hi arraignment. i think the first challenge is to the prosecutors who request some sort of conditions of release that might include, fo example, a prohibition against overseas travel, a surrender o a passport, or maybe putting some kind of conditions on his speech or his posts? now let me say, judges are loathed to issue gag orders, which is prior restraint o speech they hate to do it, but if there's anyone who needs to be gagged just a little bit a donald trump because we know that he has a proclivity for saying incendiary things tha ar

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i'm vern glenn. >> thank you. >>> the sweet 16 teams are set to play starting thursday at 4:00 p.m. with number 8 seed arkansas facing off against number 4 uconn. catch the game and more sweet 16 action on kpix. >>> still ahead, using music >>> the brawls involving students at stonestown mall and joining me is mall security expert david levinberg. you have seen the video. your thoughts? >> well, it's pretty disturbing, although not necessarily unique. i think these kinds of incidents are occurring with much too great frequency these days. maybe this is related to spring break, kids are out of school. i'm not sure but something needs to be done by that mall to stem this kind of activity. >> your professional background forms malls about security. is this on the mall? is it all the mall's fault? whose fault is this? >> it's a much larger problem. i think you have to start with the parents. are they monitoring their kids social media. do they know where their kids are going? do they know what kind of activity their kids are involved with? schools sometimes get winds of activity. a lot