the glenn beck, they're coming for your keyboard, they lost the argument today.oted 3-2 for net neutrality, against the glenn beck side of the argument. he lost the political argument. but if the paranoia glenn beck side of this lost, how do we understand who won? and what do they get for a prize? and for the people who have been activists on this issue for years while most of the rest of us have been wondering how it's going -- wondering how it's going to work out, how does today feel for the people who fought so hard to win this? joining us is xeni jardin. thank you for being here. >> honor to be here. thank you. >> i've been watching your reaction online to this today. i know that everybody is psyched, but can you explain to people who can't care about this issue why you are psyched? >> there is exuberance and joyous nerd core rapping ringing out throughout the internet land. and advocates in d.c. with cocktails. this is a sense of great excitement and triumph, because this really was a victory of the people. net neutrality is basically the idea that all netwo

let me play this glenn beck quote from earlier this week. >> the measles hoax?ossible we've been lied to about the measles, this outbreak? and that we are now being told all kinds of things for one purpose? for the herd mentality to get us all to grab our children and obey the government? >> you know it's interesting here, andrew, before i get you to react is we actually surveyed the political unit we surveyed every member of congress. >> that was really interesting. >> every member of congress, about half of them got back to us. not a single one, not a single office, said that responded to us said that they didn't vaccinate their children. every one of them did. so these elected leaders, do as they do, not as they say. >> rand paul is a doctor. he's a medical person. i mean he doesn't get a pass at all. both obama and hillary clinton in the '08 campaign both sort of tried to hedge it on a on a -- >> and you know how that happened? because they're raising money out in california and we know from some of the more prominent donors were there. >> i am the daughter

but i didn't recall your sense of indignation and outrage when glenn beck and donald trump and othersesident obama and spreading lies and misinformation about his college record and his college grades. it's absolutely wrong to see governor walker attacked for not finishing college. that's not the issue of this presidential campaign. but the bigger issue is the test of presidential character and leadership. i'm more concerns about scott walker not being able to answer a question about vaccines whether it should be nationwide. or answering a question about evolution -- >> what about vaccines? >> he was at a trade seminar and asked about his views on evolution. you tell me whether he should have fielded that question -- >> he should not have fielded that question. that question is so insulting to begin with. >> it's called science, marc. >> let him finish. go ahead, marc. >> it's an insulting question. do you ever hear a democrat ask the question do you believe we're in biblical creation? do you believe we were created by god? >> comes up in every campaign. >> what they're basically aski

the station has glenn beck rush limbaugh, mark levin, an executive asked me what is the next generationtalk radio. the other sound byte is the owner claims there are five people behind all of this. i think verifying the size of the boiler room misses the point. social media is so big in scope that it's given one person let alone an organized boycott effort a great big megaphone. it hasn't stopped in the couple of years since the floop faux pas. >> it can definitely injure your image. when you started this media matters campaign to boycott right wing talkers, did you think it would have such a sweeping effect throughout the entire category? >> yes, i did in large part because the business model of rush limbaugh is the business model of right talk. what was so outrageous there is just another day for rush limbaugh. i think that's why he and his other conservative talkers didn't think it was a big deal initially because as far as they were concerned there was nothing unusual here. >> yeah. there's millions of dollars out there on network radio. where's this money going if it is not going t

listen to glenn beck and rand paul. >> if you happen to be a parent and say, i'm sorry, god gave me ave me personal choice and responsibility for those choices, i'm going to say no to these vaccines because i've done my homework. >> i think the parents should have a say. the state doesn't own your children, the parents own the children. >> does it worry you as a public health expert if it becomes a matter of ideology to be against vaccine. >> it does personally because you are much more likely to see measles. but if you think the government should be getting involved in vaccine, that is my choice. but the tradeoff is we have measles but we have some freedom. but what i find terrifying is they don't understand the fee dom. chris christie was happy to restrict ebola but not with measles. this is not a balance. either everyone gets the vaccination or you have a measles epidemic. so he is not even good at being a politician. that worries me he couldn't make the decision. that is the job of being a politician, to make these decisions. he has no ideology but yes, everyone should get the vac

telling you, they said -- and then i did some research and they said the exact same thing about glenn beckso i rested easy figuring if -- that's what they say about people they don't like. >> i'm taking the viewers' time tonight to reinforce this is out of control. i'll give outlast word. you've been to a lot of war zones. you know the short-hand of it. you covered the war. this is the kind of stuff that people who have been there, like you and me, we do routinely. but now anything that geraldo rivera says, bernie goldberg says, bill o'reilly says, it could be 35 years ago, is going to be taken and tried to injure us with it. >> one of the most irksome things about this entire phenomenon is that the vast majority of these accusers have never put themselves at risk at all in their professional careers. they sit in the safety of their mother's basements, with their bitten fingernails on the computer attacking people they don't agree with ideologically, philosophically, whatever it is, demographically, whatever it is. it is absolutely the peril of the web. this is the future. i am glad that t

today, about the only thing that glenn beck and rush limbaugh have in common politically and ideologicallyremiah wright is that "the battle hymn of the republic" is one of their favorite songs. [laughter] the finale of the 9/11 memorial service at national cathedral, in which billy graham gives his last public formal sermon -- "the battle hymn of the republic" is performed as the finale. and it is a service in which you can see -- it is available on youtube. you can see tom delay, who is no sentimentalist, and bill clinton, both crying as they hear this song. many of you know martin luther king in montgomery. at obama's second inaugural, the brooklyn tabernacle choir performs "the battle hymn of the republic." what are the lessons this song teaches us about the transformation of the culture after the civil war? one, it highlights the displacement of god among progressives, a theme i talked about yesterday. for the wobblies and the socialists, "solidarity forever" reflects the material manifestation of christ's second coming in the socialist revolution. it suggests the transformation of soc

glenn beck is doing that drastic voice that he does. warning you about jeb.t laura ingraham says, rush limbaugh and sean hannity are very favorable to ted cruz who owns the tea party lane. shawn is intrigued with rand paul. if those two can win, place or show in iowa new hampshire and south carolina they are going to be pace cars that make this a long race for jeb. >> media matters is pointing out how many times limb bay ah mentioned scott walker's name, almost as if he's already picked his guy in the race because of hi attack on unions and he is conservatively principled that he thinks he's the guy. can limbaugh help walker? >> we'll see, but walker will be the start governor guy. frankly, although i don't think that's his intention, walker may be running for vp. >> does talk radio have the influence it had ten years ago? let's go back to 2004 and the reelection. george w. bush. a lot of people are still wondering how did that happen? the righties were pounding john kerry. they had never seen anything like that before or heard anything like that before. i me

in the seventh year of the obama presidency and he's blaming fox news, karl rove, rush limbaugh, glenn beckll else fails, who does he blame? right, it's sort of like if the dog bites, if the bee stings if you're feeling bad -- after you give the dog a bone, it bites you. whose fault is is it? right? some of you were drinking heavily last night. you woke up with a headache this morning. it's not your fault. it's not jack daniel's fault, it's not budweiser's fault. whose fault is it? if you're stupid enough, say i had a bee's nest at my house. if i was stupid like a liberal and i took a baseball bat and i knocked down the wasp nest and the bees sting me. it wouldn't have been my fault. wouldn't have been the wasp fault. all right, so, we have a young, good looking crowd here at cpac, right? by the way, i am so glad you young people are here. you are the future and we are going to make this country good for you. we are going to do it. i can look out in the crowd, kind of have x-ray fox vision. some of you women, you don't know it yet, but you're pregnant. it's not your fault. it's not his faul