model for the lack of a better way of thinking about it. >> you look at glenn beck glenn beck isst, but i think he's on cablevision and he's making a lot of money just with his subscriber fees just being a stand alone guy. you know it's so funny, colin coward actually had actually e-mailed joey a couple weeks ago and he said you know here's the future. less viewers traditionally on tv but more power, more money more autonomy. it's the new world. the new media landscape. mika and i were sitting there talking. and i said six months ago, you know there's something in newspapers about, you know, traditional ratings. they're still trying to judge things by traditional ratings and it's -- everybody's scattering. i said to mika i get the feel ing that younger viewers, just by people coming up they come up -- hey, i saw your clip on the huffington post or hey i saw your clip here or hey i saw your clip there. younger viewers are just scattering. i saw this statistic when we were talking about it a couple weeks ago where i had this intuitive feeling based on what people were saying when t

michelle obama went and talked about how she faced discrimination and glenn beck he's very angry peoplee never suffered. qon serve difficults suffer. >> yeah. >> jon: i don't understand the part -- >> it's interesting a white male conservative in america. >> jon: you know i have always felt one of them could become president. >> yeah yes, one day one day. >> jon: they shall. >> they shall overcome. >> jon: i hope so. if we work together as a people. >> yes. >> jon: but the thing is -- >> the thing is i think you said this on one of your shows, we don't want to talk about racism all the time if it weren't here f we didn't have to deal with it every day, we would love for it not to be a subject of conversation. we would love to just live our lives in equality and justice for all. we would love that we would love to not have to keep bringing this up. but it's killing our kids. it's resulting in so much pain and suffering for our community so we have to bring it up. >> and it feels like the inability to discuss it in a nondefensive manner means that solutions are buried. and i'm struck by t

don't know if you're surprised to be allied with rand paul as has been mentioned and even glenn beck in your stance on nonviolent protest. i was curious to know if your book has any insightings on things -- insights on things that people can do to be persuasive with the government in a nonviolent way. we seem to be in a trend that's violent right now. are there steps we can take to be effective in protecting in a nonviolent way and not become criminalized as entire groups? >> host: thank you carl. >> guest: well, the problem is that even nonviolent protest brings with it the, you know, the use of a legal system that is criminalized -- [inaudible] for instance, you've seen large numbers of people who are very closely involved with the occupy movement charged with felonies. they're often allowed to plea out, but because they're on poo base, they have -- probation, they have to be very careful about doing any kind of activism. we have seen the rise of omnipotent policing, most get stacked with plea charges, many of which they didn't commit, and then they bargain their way out so there's

. >> it's not like glenn beck? it's not just going to be you alone with a red phone? >> see glenn was never really alone, you know. he had a lot of voices. but you know i love glenn. that's a joke. that's a joke. anyway yes i'm having lots of guests. >> i think we are both going to be looking for new shows after that, right? >> i love glenn. he knows i'm kidding. we have a lot of people from fox news. you will see them in a way that you haven't seen them before. that will be interesting. plus we will have iconic figures from the past making cameos here and there. it will be using celebrities, probably, in a different, more unpredictable manner than you would expect. not just interviewing them for a book. do you know what i mean? >> all right. so who do you have sunday night? are you going to tell us? >> it's going to be a surprise. you have got to tune in. >> is it surprise for you too at this point or do you actually know who it is? >> yeah. no one is returning my calls. that's the problem. they say they want to do the show i call them and they say they are really bus

some of them were on tv, some of them on the internet and some just in glenn beck's mind.is case, they have limited the number, if you're not there, if you're not on the stage, especially if 10 other people are, you're de facto gone. >> we saw the power of these debates. newt gingrich is running at 10%. he had that debate moment with john king. he asked him about extra-marital affair, he explodes on john king, he goes from 10 to 41% in the span of 3 or 4 days on the strength of the debate performance. if you talk about the people around chris christie. his entire strategy rests on getting in the debate and getting one of those moments. they think he's capable of that personality. the youtube moments he's had the last few years. all these candidates, you can look at them and make fun of them now, because they're sitting at half a perfect and why are they running, they look at the debate with the same opportunity. if newt gingrich could jump 30 points in three days, so can i. >> they have a polling this remember hold they need to hit. >> they have to get included in those po

even glenn beck in your stance on nonviolent protest i was curious to know if your book has any insight on things that people can do to be persuasive with the government in a nonviolent way. it seems to be in a trend of violence right now. other steps that we can take to be effective in protesting a nonviolent way? and not become criminalized? >> thank you. >> the problem is that even nonviolent protest brings with it you know the use of the legal system that has criminalized's. for instance, you have seen large numbers of people who are closely involved with the occupy movement charged with felonies and are often allow the plea out. because they out. because they are on probation you have to be careful about doing any kind of activism. you know we have seen only 94 percent of people in this country go to trial's. most get most get hit with plea charges and then a bargain their way out. so there is a legal system and the physical mechanism that is used to criminalize and will be used to criminalize even nonviolent offenses. and so for me i think it would be foolish to believe that if we

. >> glenn beck was joined in his teaching about history. american thinker charged that america's race-baiting flotus knows nothing about booker t. washington and the headline about michelle obama's disregard for tuskegee's university founder, booker t. washington. personal account racial misrecognition of insufficient understanding as the american thinker claimed this week, stirring up racial animosity is an approach washington shunned and perhaps mrs. obama's critics should read more deeply into washington's ideology. born into slavery and rose to such prominence as an educator and thought leader that u.s. presidents sought his advice was an advocate of self-help as the key to advancement for formerly enslaved people. believed they could earn gradually by dedicating to vocational education and proving their value and usefulness to their country. in that regard michelle obama, the december senscendent of enslaved people, opened the doors of opportunity to their children is the em bodiment of washington's vision but the years of hard fought

i think glenn beck doesn't suffer consequences. they bring in lots of money lots of listeners and viewers. smaller people can get punished. for example a tea party member of the republican central committee of orange county, calif. marilyn davenport forwarded a photo of two adult chimpanzees and their baby bearing the obama's face and the caption now you know why no birth certificate. she said she wasn't racist and didn't think of obama as the black man but the committee chairman demanded her resignation. she did get support from her constituencies and since she has been elected she was forced to step down and she remained in office. the republican mayor e-mailed a cartoon of the white house lawn as a watermelon patch with the caption no easter egg hunt this year. he resigned but he was reelected councilman. a woman named denise helms posted on facebook a racist epithet about obama and the implication that he should be assassinated in she was immediately fired by the ice-cream store where she worked whose manager said when your com

los angeles police chief charlie beck says both glenn and the officer who shot him are black. and that he worries the shooting may not have been justified. "it takes six the ordinary circumstances to justify shooting and of not seen those circumstances at this time/ the los angeles police protective league released a statement responding to beck saying quote "it is completely irresponsible for anyone. much less the chief of police. to render a judgment on an incident that is in the early stages of investigation." "by making his opinion public without having all of the facts, he influences the investigation for all parties involved." >> darya: rolling about the flooding footballs and it carries a reaction to what tom had the same. airline being gets creative with cotter move his daughters' lives >> george: how for writing westbound direction of vex and reported in bay. back bailey rode the cars involved in the sex and traffic has been very light in the westbound direction dried thyme at 26 to 29 minutes for your westbound trip in the concord coming from and got up did the rest