i keep hearing i'm going to call him glenn cunningham, the old quarterback. anyway, we were talking before __ this is a great story, and i want you to explain it. evidently, the number 13 and 14 had a lot to do with your career. talk about it. >> well, actually, like a lot of people, you learn things later that you didn't know when it was critical. but it must've been about 10 years ago, i get an email from a friend of mine. paul was the head of affairs when nasa selected me back in 1963. how many here were alive in 1963? oh, a few of you. anyhow, after i got selected, i met paul. he was the only person i knew who was associated with nasa. then after i left nasa, i wrote a book called "the all_american boys". and __ and paul was a friend of mine, and i gave paul a copy of that book. about 10 years ago, before paul died, i get an email from paul. he says __ oh, i read the book and it is really good. i sent an email back saying, paul, i give you that book __ you know __ 1977, and you're just reading it? and he says, well, i went to the index and checked what yo

. >> i keep hearing i'm going to call him glenn cunningham, the old quarterback. i'm terrible with names. this is a great story. i want you to explain it. evidently, number 13 and 14 had a lot to do with your career. talk about it. >> well, actually, like a lot of people, you learn things later that you did not know whether it was critical. but it must have been about 10 years ago, i get an e-mail from a friend of mine, paul haney, head of public affairs when nasa selected me in 1963. how many here were alive in 1963? a few of you. 1 -- [laughter] but i met all haney. he was the only person i knew with nasa. after i left nasa, i wrote a book called the all-american boys. a lot of people have that book. and paul was a friend of mine. i gave paul a copy of that book. about 10 years ago, before paul died, i get an e-mail from paul. he says just one sentence. i read the book. it is really good. i sent an e-mail back. paul, i gave you that book in 1977. and you are just reading it? >> he said i went to the index and check with you said about me. [laughter] very typical

i keep hearing that i am going to call him glenn cunningham, the old nfl quarterback. evidently, 13 and 14 had a lot to do with your career and life. talk about it. >> actually, like a lot of people, you learn things later that you did not know when it was critical but about 10 years ago, i got an e-mail from a friend of mine, paul haney, who was the head of public affairs when nasa selected me back in 1963. how many here were alive? a few of you. anyhow after i was selected, before i reported, i met paul haney. he was the only person i knew associated with nasa. after i left nasa, i wrote a book called the all-american boys. a number of people here have that book. paul was a friend of mine, and i gave paul a copy of the book. about 10 years ago before paul died, i got an e-mail from paul that said one sentence about something. it said oh, i read the book it's really good. i sent an e-mail back that said paul i gave you that book in 1977. are you just reading it? he said well, i went through the index and checked what you said about me and then put it aside. >> typical

i keep fearing that i will call him glenn cunningham __ i'm terrible with names.were talking before, and i want you to explain this. the numbers 13 and 14 had a lot to do with your career in your life. >> like a lot of people, you learn things later they did not know when it was critical. it must have been about 10 years ago. i got an email from a friend of mine. he was the head of public affairs when nasa selected me back in 1963. how many here were alive in 1963? a few of you. anyhow, after i was selected, i met paul hagan. after i left nasa, i wrote a book. a number of people here have that book. paul was a friend of mine. i gave paul copy of that book. about 10 years ago, before paul died, a kind email from him. he said __ oh, i read the book, it was really good. i sent an email back, and i said, i gave you that book in 1977, did you just read it? he said, well, i went and check with you said about me. [laughter] very typical. you have one more sentence. he said, you know you are number 14, don't you? >> you are like, what does that mean? >> that is right. in

. >> i keep fearing i'm going to call him glenn cunningham, the old quarterback. i'm terrible with names. this is a great story. i want you to explain it. evidently, number 13 and 14 had a lot to do with your career. talk about it. >> well, actually, like a lot of people, you learn things later that you did not know whether it was critical. but it must have been about 10 years ago, i get an e-mail from a friend of mine, paul haney head of public affairs when nasa selected me in 1963. how many here were alive in 1963? a few of you. [laughter] but i met paul haney. he was the only person i knew with nasa. after i left nasa, i wrote a book called the “all-american boys.” a lot of people here have that book. and paul was a friend of mine. i gave paul a copy of that book.