there were simply those innovators out there, glenn curtis being one of them, that wanted to take aviation to that next level. curtis wanted to come here because the navy was here. we had a significant foot print here. he was also one of those who relocated because he could do testing. he had the weather. things very friendly to aviation. time, the army was interested in airplanes. if you looked at some of the early aviators, they were with the army, not just with the navy. it was a little bit of competition between the services. each one wanting to figure out the equation. how is his airplane going to help us? was not an aircraft you would fight on and off an aircraft carrier. it was ac plane. it was one to take off and land on the water. those earlyduring years, it was trying to figure out the application. , meaning thatramp would take you from the water to the land, which north island had many ramps because many of the navy airplanes were those kind. they would come up the wheels and they would taxi into the hangar bank. when you look at glen curtis and the a1 triad, it was a proof of c