all we knew when the story broke was that he was glenn green wald's partner and being detained just because find out he was going over to berlin to i guess he was acting as a courier between green wald and the fellow, his fellow reporter in berlin. that makes him more a part of this more a part of this story and you know, trying to figure out, okay, what exactly what is his role. it does now knowing this store the of now explains why the british authorities took his thuv drives and his laptops and his cell phones and his game console, but still, when you look at the british law and how vague it is, you do have to wonder if the british government was seeking retaliatory action. what they've done now is stirred the ire of glenn green wald and they'll soon find out i think what other secret documents he has that could cause them more trouble. >> we are in the age of punitive journalism. ryan, i want to play you some sound because this is what the story is the about, right? there was a recent report in the "washington post" about the error rate among the nsa and peter king characterized it this

glenn green wald, account guardian reporter tweeted manning sentenced to 35 years.r why snowden doesn't trust u.s. justice as a whistleblower. joining us to discuss by phone this issue, the nsa is "vanity fair" contributing editor kirk eichenwald, the author of the book "3500 days -- secrets and lies in the terror wars." i feel like you've written the most extensively and rationally about the issue because you really don't have a dog in the fight. explain to us what the nsa programs is are and why you think they're broader and bigger than we think but not as nefarious as we think. >> it's interesting when this whole thing exploded i kind of scratched my head because i actually disclosed the program in my last book and how it worked. but with a lot more detail than what we're talking about now. the way the program worked, it was adopted in november of 2001 under the bush administration. and it is a system that collects a massive amount of data, more data than people are talking about, phone data, e-mail data, as well as about $8 billion different records of a lot of

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that kind of -- >> the difference here, though, is you have authorized analysts, according to glenn green waldnd potentially who can do more than that. >> i'd like to ask glenn a question about this program. is this for just domestic e-mails or international e-mails or both? >> the reason is under the law in order for the nsa to eavesdrop, to target an american citizen for surveillance they need to go to the court and get approval and they always give it. they are a rubber stamp in court. when an american citizen talks to somebody outside of the united states, those e-mails, telephone calls and activity is accessible by the nsa without a warrant. on top of that the nsa makes mistakes all the time. it is difficult to know the national origin of communication. all kinds of domestic calls get put in to this database as well. as the aclu's said, huge amounts of communication are swept up in what the nsa calls foreign surveillance. >> this is an important clarification that this is primarily targeted at international e-mails, not purely domestic e-mails. as glenn points out, there maybe mistakes, a

they held david marnd, a brazilian national and partner of glenn green wald without rights for nine hourshrow airport. the uk does not accuse miranda of being a terrorist. they knew who he was and they haven't offered any information to prove it took them nine hours to figure out that he wasn't a terrorist. instead, it looks like the uk exploited that special power for fighting terrorism in order to harass the husband of a journalist who has been reporting on government surveillance. in response, the very british politician who's wrote the terrorism act are decrying an the operation as an buse of security power and an attempt to intimidate the press. today, miranda's lawyers went to court asking for a declaration that the detention was illegal and for the return of property seized by authorities. the incident is causing international outrage because abusing security powers to harass the press is an a hallmark of authoritarian dictatorships, not open democracies. yet, right here in the u.s. some prominent voices are defending the uk's action. first, critics say because miranda is not a pro

this involves a new player in the drama, not edward snowden or journalist glenn greenwald but green wald's partner. we are working this story in london. >> reporter: why was david miranda, a brazilian citizens, detained for nearly nine hours at heathrow airport on sunday? greenwald says this is an attack on the free press. in "the guardian" newspaper, green wold wrote it is bad enough to imprison sources who report the truth. but to start detakening the famili familiar. >> sed you'll 7 allows british police it detain and question anyone passing through the borders, ostensibly to stop an attack. detainees are not given access to lawyers until they are released. according to britain's hope office, 97% of people stopped are released in less than an hour. one in 2,000 are held for the maximum time allowed, nine hours. so why was miranda in that category? miranda has now returned to brazil, greeted at the airport by greenwald but his laptop, dvds and a console all remain confiscated. the garden newspaper has confirmed they paid for miranda's flights but it's not clear if miranda was asked to de