this one features the initial discussions between glenn greenwald and an editor at the guardian aboutublishing the findings from snowden's nsa leaks. >> janine, how did the white house conversation go? >> i do quite clear we were in possession of an authentic pfizer court order. i just pray it is actually authentic. >> are you actually questioning that? >> glenn, no one has ever seen a fisa court order. there is the presidents. >> israel. >> to the white house make any specific claims about national security that would prevent you from publishing? >> yes. i asked them repeatedly. >> what more do you want? you can go out and know you are safe. >> i would like to talk to alan before we go any further. >> absolutely not. we're sitting ducks, janine. it is 1:00 p.m. in new york. if you don't get it out in the next four hours, you will miss the evening post. >> i'm sorry, glenn, but allen is our government -- >> the government could barge through the store any moment and you up more time. a journalist and stop stringing us along. >> that is a clip from "snowden." just a what is happening t

glenn greenwald, the lead journalist who exposed nsa mass surveillance based on edward in an interviewith democracy now! following the terrorist attacks in paris last november, greenwald refuted -- that the snowden leaks may have helped the perpetrators. >> think about how many large-scale mass terrorist attacks were successfully perpetrated long before anyone knew the name edward snowden? you have the 2002 bombing of the nightclub in bali, the 2004 happened to thousand five attacks on the trains in madrid and london, the 2008 math shooting spree in mumbai, april 2013 attack on the boston marathon -- all of which were successful multi-terrorist plots carried out without the u.s. detecting them, long before anyone knew the name edward snowden. if you're someone who wants to blame edward snowden or the andlosures for this attack, yoyou have to answerer, how didl of those othther attacks take place without the cia or nsa discovering them? what edward snowden taught the world is not that the u.s. government was trying to spy on terrorists -- everybody, including terrorists, have known that

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taking on a new real-life role in the new movie "snowden" playing glenn greenwald, helped publish findings about the government's global surveillance program. >> the documents eventually released to the public there was plenty of hesitation along the way. take a look. >> tell us -- did the white house make any speck claims about national >> no. i asked them repeatedly, and i had no standard answer. >> there you go. what more can you want? you can go out and know that you're safe. >> glenn, i'd like to talk to alan before we go any further. >> when does he land? >> no. absolutely not. we're sitting ducks here, jeanine. >> you were sitting in kong, in that hotel. >> yeah. >> a riveting film. welcome. >> nice to be back, thank you. >> touch my leg again, please. just like that. yeah, yeah. anyway, you, i'm sure, are familiar with the story. >> i was, i was. >> what was your first thought when you heard about what ed snowden had done? >> i probably felt like a lot of americans, that's intense and probably has nothing to do with me. felt like a big swooping thing, and then the more i read about

the film's ands, joseph gordon levitt, that frequented, who plays former guardian journalist glenn greenwaldleased to have them at this table. welcome everybody. why edward snowden? [laughter] is an historical figure outside our time. he addressed something that we did not know. he made the world aware that our government has deployed and created and deployed a massive andrnational spying system surveillance system. without democratic consent. he is the one who brought it out. i believe he made it, he did so out of conviction and love of country. >> i visited the set briefly. one of the things that struck me is the level of security precautions you were taking to avoid the script leaking out. from the beginning, we operated off the grid as much as we could. we kept everything on paper. we used all forms of encryption available at the time. actors and other parts of the world had to read something to whether to do the part or not and we sent it in pieces to whatever country, and sometimes, and the phones, that was another issue, yes. we had our offices debugged. in germany, we felt more comfo

but you know, i'm playing glenn greenwald who is the journalist who -- >> jimmy: who broke all the stories. >> who broke the stories with him, yeah. >> jimmy: did you meet him? >> i've met him in the past, but i didn't meet him in conjunction with this movie unfortunately, just because of schedules and timing. you know, i think if the movie was called "greenwald," i would >> jimmy: yeah. >> we're sort of --i play glenn and melissa leo plays laura poitras, who directed that amazing documentary, "citizenfour." and tom wilkinson plays ewan macaskill, the editor from "the guardian" newspaper, which is where all the articles were filtered through. and so we basically, within the structure of this film, are the portal to the flashbacks, which tell the whole story of snowden from the beginning and give, you know, a really good sense of what motivated him to make this decision and it illuminated it for me. you know, i thought i knew about thst >> jimmy: yeah, because some people see him as a traitor, and some people see him as a a patriot, a whistleblower. >> yeah, and what i didn't understand rea