glenn greenwald the journalist that revealed edward snowden kennedy: founding father benjamin franklin said those who would give up the sense of liberty to purchase a little bit of temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety are those words could not be more appropriate in the ongoing debate over the limits on government spying. the center of all this nsa leaker edward snowden who is currently seeking a pardon asking -- after the september attacks and new jersey. spoke with journalists glenn greenwald who helped expose the nsa's mass spying program in late documents from edward snowden. you have made the case that too much spying, too much surveillance actually puts us at greater risk. that's true, isn't it? >> is definitely true. if you look at what we are ablet to review its reporting from the stoughton archive the u.s. is doing more spying than anyone thought was possible collecting data on billions of telephone calls and e-mails every single day and yet look at how many attacks or attempted attacks have taken place over the last four years without the slightest detection no

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take a listen to glenn greenwald, who was on the show last night, and was challengini basically the intelligence agencies and our reporting, including effectively reporters like you for relying on those sources. take a listen. >> you need to actually see evidence for it, so that you can review that evidence and assess whether or not it's persuasive. what evidence is there, definitive, circumstantial, or otherwise, that they have presented that suggest that the russian government is behind these leaks? there is none. >> he's saying there has to be evidence more than just a government official whispering that they reached a conclusion. would you put today's material that you've been reporting on in that pile of more useful evidence? >> i absolutely would. but i think he's got a great point. i do think the u.s. government has an obligation, at some point, to release some evidence on this. they just can't say, take our word for it. they didn't do that during the cold war. they went to the united nations in certain cases and presented evidence. and the obama administration has said they'll do athat a