well glenn greenwald, that's your some of your american experience. but now you've taken your job to brazil. how'd you get down there? i had been visiting brazil quite a bit in the late 90s and early 2000s. i was working as a lawyer in new york at the time and really just a place. i think we all find those places that just resonate with our soul that just speak to us. i was always overwhelmed by age beauty, but then in 2005 when i went there i intended to stay seven weeks. i met my now husband of 17 years. and at the time the defense of marriage act, which was a law in the clinton years baron get gay couples from getting green cards or other immigration rights for their same sex spouses brazil being the largest catholic country in the world, nonetheless offered those rights and so we were only able to live in brazil together. so we built our life there we have three kids. an elected member of congress and i've lived there ever since but obviously have kept one foot strongly planted in the united states as well with the work. i've been doing well your

i don't think that glenn greenwald knew that he was going to find a contract for the nsa. that contractor found him. and then paying tim. much is the case of project veritas. the whistleblower's finest. for example, this year, an fbi agent found me after the fbi raided my home. that fbi agent came to us with internal restricted documents from within the fbi's computer systems. they were calling us news media. it is a very big deal. the case hinges on whether we are news media. the people tend to find journalists that they can trust. these days, most sources don't really trust any journalist at all. most people don't trust media. we don't really pick our subjects. our subjects find us. >> how many times have you been sued? or jailed they are indicted. >> in this exhibit hall, my attorneys are standing about five feet away from me. i know that they're probably laughing. i don't know exactly how many, a couple dozen pieces of litigation over the last ten years. we have never lost a case. we don't lose because we're in the right and we don't give up. if you're in the right and

glenn. greenwald will be talking about his newest book securing democracy in just a minute. but glenn greenwald. we're at the libertarian freedom fest festival in las vegas. and you're here. is there an oddity there there definitely is an oddity. that's obvious that i've long been perceived as associated with the left and i don't think there are a lot of people for whom that's true at this particular conference at the same time very early on when

so glenn greenwald has since gre 9-11 been yelling at the top of his voice about the disappearance ofcivil the liberties in this country. he was mocked by many,disappearr including us . we don't mock him anymore. man we think he was right.g he's posted a twitter thread that's worth reading us. on the subject. he's an independent journalist we don't mocm very often. he joins us tonight.g glenn, thanks so much for. we reached the point where even coming on . >> i think we've reachedpeople o the point where even people who didn't take this seriouslyol like me are genuinely,y ar genuinely concerned, as you should be . you know, it's amazingly ironic. i became a journalist in 2005 and response to the civil liberties abuses justified in the name of the wa be.r on terrs where at least there was an actual attack on the united anual attack11. i thought the threat was i thou exaggerated in order to escalate the civil libertiese abuses. but at least there was a realthe attack. what is the most overlookeat wda part of the bidens a administration is that before attack. before january six , there w

. >> tucker: glenn greenwald since 9-11 being yelling about the disappearance of civil rights.mocked by many including us. we don't mock him anymore. he joins us. thanks for coming on. we reached the point where even people who did not take this seriously are concerned. >> awes should be. -- as you should be. with the war on terror there was an actual attack. i thought the threat was exaggerated but there was a real attack. before january 6th there was an attempt to import the first war on terror on to domestic soil. adam shipp had legislation to make that first war on terror domestic terrorists. 2 months before january 6th when biden was declared the winner. they said a top priority for the biden administration is to reintroduce the war on terror but this time on domestic soil. they justify in the wake of january 6th but before then this is what they were intending to do to criminal the opposition and solidifying their powers on american soil. >> tucker: do you feel like you are going crazy. the opposition party is gutted by the doj and nobody is saying anything about this? ho

i'm not sure they are going to find that maybe they are very talented like, for example, glenn greenwald. >> brian: and if you have to stay at home and want to listen to something that will educate you and enlighten you and change your life, get the will cain podcast. will that came from the heart. that was not in the prompter. >> will: i knew it. i know. i felt it. it felt warm. >> brian: will cain, thank you so much. by the way this just in. cowboys not really good. i'm just trying to share the story with people at home. right? [laughter] all right. meanwhile, straight ahead. looking live from northern ireland where king charles iii is embarking on u.k. tour this as the queen's casket is set to travel to buckingham palace later today. new tributes for her majesty next. ♪ jaycee tried gain flings for the first time the other day...and forgot where she was. you can always spot a first timer. gain flings with oxi boost and febreze. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality