now joining us is glenn greenwald, pulitzer winning independent journalist. glenn, great to see you back gree yw now. to see you back you'd think that if the elites were so confident that they were on the right side of the, let's just say, the vaccine issue, that they'd have no proble tm debating,r confronting, whatever you want to call it. rfk jru wa t. >> so what are they so afraid of? yeah, i hope you're doing okay after this dangerous man with his dangerous ideas man was allowed to be heard on television. i know how threatening that they b knowt e. >> it's really amazing. this is somebody who is . t, whoomebody who is you like it or not i, who'sg at polling at 20%. that means millions of peopl 20p in the democratic party sayarto they intend to vote for him forh president. and this inclination on the part of people who teach ofr call themselvesle who teach journalists to say that he ought not to be heard frombe, he ought not to be challenging and not be engaged is shocking inengage one way, but in anothe. the liberal establishment in the uniteday, the stat