glenn karl glenn was the head of the cia's interrogation program so he was in as deeply as anybody at the cia could be in and he had an epiphany and he said this is wrong what am i doing and he resigned from the cia wrote a book about the terrible mistakes that he had made by being associated with this torture program and what happened the cia's office of public affairs contacted every major news outlet and said don't you dare review this book and so something like five people read the book it was a term book one of the best memoirs i've ever read but people don't know about it well if people like glenn can work with people like the members of the north carolina commission against torture we might really be able to put something together here so. let me ask you this you know we talk a lot when you talk to people about being when you're anti torture which i guess is a saying that you specify we usually go back to what i get back a lot is this idea of well they're bad guys right why do i care what happens but the effect of torture doesn't just affect the person torture it effects everyone including the officer of the people involved does this see i have any sort of program or set up to mitigate the damage of torturing people that cia officers could be privy to like you're going to get p.t.s.d. did they do anything to help you're really on today that is. the question and the answer is no the job of the cia psychiatrist is not to make you well the job of a cia psychiatrist is to make you well. you asked to sign explaining to this idea of the u.s. dollar reserve currency empire they built