and glenn kirschner, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. glenn, we miss you at the table so i'm going to go to you first. i think jason and i are of the cynical -- we are of the same kind of cynical mentality about trump, and the michael cohen case is what kind of teaches me what to expect. because michael cohen was convicted of committing a crime. he committed that crime not for himself, not because he had an affair with stormy daniels, but because donald trump did. and he paid money that he took out of his account and that trump reimbursed him for, because trump wanted to cover that up, not him. he's the only one who paid for that crime. so it seems to me that these one might say fools who threw their lives away, we're talking about a 68-year-old ob/gyn from massachusetts, three active duty marines, a guy who had a job for ten months and now lost all of his family. you can go through it. a real estate agent. all these people are facing a few month to maybe years in prison. but trump, it seems to me, has the protection of merrick garland, w

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they are heading down a path of appeasement, glenn kirschner. and i wonder where you think that path ultimately leads? >> you know, appeasement is never a good thing. you have to stand on principle and let the criticism come. let's face it, nicole. there are some who are forever going to be in donald trump's camp. nothing will ever persuade them that things are really on the up and up, and the department of justice has really made all the right things fair and independent decisions from a place that is entirely apolitical. but let me quibble a little bit with harry's view. uh understand where he's coming from. i think once attorney general garland decided to have the u.s. attorney in chicago, john laush, conduct the first review of the evidence and the facts and the circumstances, and u.s. attorney laush said, in his name, there was enough to have a special counsel appointed, i think that sort of sealed the deal for merrick garland, and that i think almost compelled him to appoint a special counsel. because merrick garland is still playing to an

. >> glenn kirschner, i will tell you this. is airtight and they get it right. glenn kirschner, as always, thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. just moments ago, president biden departed andrews air force base for el paso, texas, on his first visit to the u.s. southern border since taking office. this comes after his announcement on thursday of the new policy, cracking down on the illegal border crossings, the increasing expulsions under title 42. it also increases the number of legal paths, for some migrants to apply for asylum. the scope of the problem in el paso can be seen in video obtained by nbc news which shows border agents and police arresting migrants who are sleeping on the street earlier in the week. the arrests happened near a church shelter, which immigration advocates say me violate dhs policy. now joining me, maria teresa kumar, nbc political analyst and president ceo of -- thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. the president's new policy crackdown on illegal crossings were also opening

. >> glenn kirschner, and sergeant cheryl dorsey, we will have to leave it there. my thanks to both of. you coming, up calls grow for police reform after last night's release of this video. we are going to discuss after a quick break. we are going to discuss after quick break. i'm jonathan lawson here to tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program. if you're age 50 to 85, and looking to buy life insurance on a fixed budget, remember the three ps. what are the three ps? the three ps of life insurance on a fixed budget are price, price, and price. a price you can afford, a price that can't increase, and a price that fits your budget. i'm 54, what's my price? you can get coverage for $9.95 a month. i'm 65 and take medications. what's my price? also $9.95 a month. i just turned 80, what's my price? $9.95 a month for you too. if you're age 50 to 85, call now about the #1 most popular whole life insurance plan available through the colonial penn program. it has an affordable rate starting at $9.95 a month. no medical exam, no health questions. your ac

joining us now attorney and msnbc legal analyst glenn kirschner. rick stengel is with us as well.to be seated? >> it's okay for them to know the truth and many of them are indicating to the judge they do know the truth about the nature of the proud boys organization. but you they have to be able to set aside whatever their preconceived notions are and agree to decide the case based solely on the evidence that's adduced during trial. you know, the more notorious the defendant or defendants and the more infamous the crime, the longer it's going to take to pick a jury. i had the same experience when i was trying rico cases in that very courthouse against what was the largest criminal enterprise running the drug trade in all four quadrants of washington, d.c. and they killed 30 people over the course of ten years. it took us weeks to empanel a jury. and here's the thing, nicolle. when we're going through voir dire, the jury selection process, the defense attorney will ask prospective jurors about their views of the proud boys. and once jurors say i have a really negative view and here

pulitzer prize-winning, investigative reporter for the new york times and former federal prosecutor glenn kirschner is with us. leanne, let start with you first. with these biden document. what should we be expecting from republicans? we got to know today, yes, they'll be an investigation. what does that mean? >> this is part of a line that republicans are going to continue they are intent on investigating the biden administration. not just on these documents, but including hunter biden and what they say are conflicts of interest. and that president biden is compromised because of his relationship with his son and his business dealings. but house republicans are making a lot of comparisons to the donald trump documents at mar-a-lago. they are saying that it is absolutely necessary for there to be an investigation. and that there has been a double standard by the fbi and the department of justice on how they have handled this. they are talking about the timing that these documents were found, before the midterm election. and this is going to play into not only directly an investigation into presiden

. >> glenn kirschner, ali vitali, monica jolly, thank you for sticking around, ale. >>> two weeks of devastating and relentless rain storms continue to bring misery to millions including roads crumbling right before their eyes. >> right here! oh, my god! get away! >> it's not over yet. more than 7 million californians at risk of widespread floodwaters as the "new york times" reports from the monterey peninsula near san francisco, the santa cruz mountains, lake tahoe, the sierra nevadas, merced county to los angeles county. nbc's dana griffin is in capetola, california, in the middle of it all. dana, how much longer there you wonder can people hang on? tell us what the situation is right now, and what it looks like over the next several days. >> reporter: yeah. as far as hanging on, chris. people are very fatigued. this is the tenth storm that has hit this region since christmas. the good news is, it's likely going to fizzle out. you can see, we've got light rain, but take a look behind me. you can see the creek now feeding into the ocean. this is moving so swiftly right now, and in t

>> charles coleman junior and glenn kirschner, you will both back with us in the next hour. we have much more to talk about. charles, i have a very important question for you when it comes to charles, hur, appointment, and whether or not it will affect the ongoing investigation by special counsel jack smith for trump and mar-a-lago. all of that to come. stick around, to. to viewers at home, stick around for this conversation. and later, coming up, remembering dr. martin luther king, junior, his son, martin luther king the third, will join us to reflect on his father's legacy on the upcoming 40th anniversary of the federal holiday. first, we will continue to this question of the latest on capitol hill. stay with. us. get a private 5g network. so you can do more than connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day w

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