glenn lunny left. he picked up the apollo soyuz program at that time which is now this next generation of involvement trying to involve the russians in space as partners. all of a sudden i started finding myself short in flight directors and having to bring new people on-board. so i was -- role was sort of a mentor, teacher, tutor, same as kraft had done in the early days, and at the same time to stretch our assets because i had to move training people over there. we started standardizing many of the mission flights. i would launch the apollo 15, 16, 17 from both the earth, as well as the moon. and the other flight directors would ahandle the evas. griffin would do the landings. we kept the experience as high as we could and moved new generations over to the sky lab program. 14 stands out because probably one of the most famous things that griffin -- it's the one i remember griffin in. he had an abort switch and as we were getting ready to go shutdown to the surface of the moon, rerecognized this indic