can i say, glenn peters is a very honorable man. his advantage in kentucky is he looks at energy and environmental issues together, and i think that provides an advantage for the state to see that it can be done and actually will provide benefits to the state in terms of the utilization of energy supplies that are both effective, reliable and cost-effective but can be designed to be effective in reducing pollution that impacts health. >> you obviously think that states like kentucky which are called dominated can benefit from the funds that would be appropriated? >> they absolutely can come as well as the incentives fund that the president has proposed, which is $4 billion. we have designed this in a way to recognize the kentucky doesn't and shouldn't have the same standard as other states that are so heavily reliant on call have. we have designed it in a way that is achievable from the get-go and flexible enough for folks like glenn peters to get his arms around it and make it work. >> i appreciate the flexibility and cooperation y