but if he does appear, glenn simpson, expect him to take the 5th. we'll wait to hear what manafort and donald trump, jr. say in a matter of moments, brianna. >> former national security advisor susan rice was up on capitol hill meeting privately with senate intel members today. did you learn anything about those meetings? >> reporter: yeah, this is the first time she has appeared since the house republican chairman of the intelligence committee accused her of essentially unmasking the names of trump officials in intelligence reports and saying that she did something improper, something that she has vigorously denied, that whole controversy prompted devin nunez to step aside. she did appear before the senate intelligence committee today to -- as part of their investigation into russian meddling in the elections. that's the issue that they discussed. uncertain about whether or not they discussed the issue of unmasking. earlier this week when i had a chance to talk to richard burr whether he had concerns with susan rice and that issue of unmasking, if

well, glenn simpson is also connected -- he worked on that case for two years. want answers. who paid you to go after trump, to build this case against him? how did the f.b.i. end up with this dossier? he doesn't want to answer these questions. he also has a lot of other questions to answer. i mean, if he was lobbying and he didn't, you know, register with the foreign registration act, that's another question that they have with him. and another thing, too, that i think nobody is really looking at, if you think about the russians, they keep trying to say "collusion, collusion, collusion" with the trump administration and trying to bring this about, but the russians and this oligarch were trying to go against the mig knits act, and people that worked with glenn simpson to put this dossier together, if anything, you would think the russians were working against trump in all of this. so there's a lot of questions that glenn simpson has to answer and now he's in europe and he doesn't want to answer any questions and he's pleading the fifth. pete: right. the presiden

they used glenn simpson from fusion gps, ron dellins, the potomac square group, all u.s.-based, washington, d.c.-based firms. >> would they likely have knowledge about the issues that we're discussing and would you recommend the committee hear from them? >> indeed. >> you mentioned i think uri shaykha, the prosecutor in the moscow area in his e-mail to donald trump jr., rod goldstone claims that the information he has that could harm hillary clinton's campaign would come from the crown prosecutor of russia. there is no such position as crown prosecutor. it's widely assumed that goldstone was referring to uri -- the prosecutor general and a close ally of vladimir putin. are you familiar with him? >> yeah. uri chai ka is one of the people most compromised by the magnitsky affair and he was also deeply involved with veselnitskaya working hand in glove with her on this whole initiative that they had launched in america and not just in terms of donald trump jr., but in terms of lobbying congress. >> and again following the money he would have a financial interest as well as a

browder: glenn simpson was calling a number of journalists, ditching a story to the journalists as the magnitsky act was being debated in congress to rid the story he was pitching, was that magnitsky had not been murdered. that he died of natural courses, and magnitsky was not a whistleblower, he was a criminal. that the story i had told the u.s. congress, was incorrect thereforeitsky and should be repealed. that was the story he was pitching. i know because he was -- a number of journalists pitched by him, came to me and asked me about it. he was unsuccessful for the most part in getting the story written, but it does not take away from the fact that he was trying to get the story published. support,ot litigation it is impossible for me to see how it could be litigation support because had those theies been written, during litigation that he was supposedly supporting, any juror reading those stories would've been disqualified from being on the jury. so, that could only have been the purpose of manipulating and trying to change the legislation here in washington. grassley: your testimo

competently about is that this firm, fusion gps, run by former "wall street journal" reporter, glenn simpson directly from a senior russian family official, in order to try to repeal something called the magnitsky act, which is a bit of legislation, which sanctions russian torturers and killers, from coming into america, and using the american banking system, so the guy who you are referring to, fusion gps, he was taking money from the russians, last year, to go against the magnitsky act and to go against me. >> bill: and fusion gps, by the way, they said that they did not spread any false information about you, that is what they have set on the record, but to come back to the point, fusion gps was funded by pugin, in order to acquire or achieve or put together that's dossier. >> they were funded by a family, on my case, i don't know about the dossier, but in my case, they are funded by a family headed by a person who is in the governments of russia, a very rich guy, and they were funded by that family, to do this project against me and against -- >> bill: so they look for dirt? i mean, that

glenn simpson. >> i have seen that in media reports, sir. >> has he registered under the statute, fara? >> i have not searched or his name, so sitting here today i don't know for sure. i think the answer is no. but again i'm not sure. >> has anybody at the department of justice searched for his name? >> i don't know that, sir. >> is somebody looking into that? >> i can't comment on that, sir. >> general horowitz, why -- i think you testified that two decades ago enforcement of fara became less of a priority. why was that? >> well, we saw about two decades ago a significant drop-off in the number of filings and one event was the 1995 lobbying disclosure act, but proceeding that by two years was the imposition of fees for filing. if you actually look at our report and the chart we have done, and the graphic that we have included in the report it shows the cliff starts to occur in 1993 after fees were imposed. and one of the challenges we had when we went into do our audit was trying to determine what was the impact of the lobbying disclosure act and the problem we had was there really ha

one of them is glenn simpson. i have been asking about the who are working to smear mr. browder and undermine the -- act. his company is the same firm that oversaw the creation of the unverified trump dossier. helped ame time they campaign to repeal the magnetic ski act. there are public reports that the fbi used the dossier to kickstart the russian investigation. does the fbi know they pitched propaganda? will what they say about its reliability if it was represented to any court? two other individuals have been in the news lately. lawyer.t is the russian name -- we will just referred to her as russian agent xyz or something. a russian company we see millions of hours connected why .he crime the other is not mentioned. americanussian lobbyist. the new york times described him as a master of the dark arts. these two where reportedly at the meeting with the trump campaign and family members last summer. they reportedly offered dirt on the opponent to get a meeting and made their pitch against the act. was it a come -- was it a clumsily great and switch? someully we will g

committee held a hearing today on russian election meddling donald trump jr paul manna for it and glenn simpson were expected to testify but instead broker arrangements to keep their interviews private at the center of today. as hearing was hedge fund head bill browder the military has been following the story and she joins us for more this seems more than interesting testimony oh at the focus today of the meeting was supposed to be oversight of the foreign agents registration act and on the alleged russian election meddling and while bill browder gave his testimony before the senate he really offered no concrete evidence to support any of those claims. turned out that in putin's russia there are no good guys no empathy and no morals to threaten me with death they threaten me with kidnapping in the face of evil i don't think there's any other way to characterize mir putin the russians will do anything they can get away with or even stuff they can't get away with to arrest kidnap torture and kill just to take people's properties away the russians are liars browder shot down his operations in rus

glenn simpson, fusion gps who was supposed to be testifying. walk us back. viewer back.cern here. this is a firm that's for hire. gregg: a supporter for hillary clinton allegedly hired them to dig dirt and donald trump. the f.b.i. gets involved and there is a fairly reliable report fbi under james comey agreed to pay this company $50,000 to continue digging dirt on donald trump. i don't know if that's true or not. but i would like to see james comey under cross-examination answering that particular question. trish: it's one thing to dig up dirt and do an investigation. it's another thing to basically dig up dirt that's completely untrue and try and feed it out there. but even those two things, they are not illegal at this point. one has to assume in politics, this is why nobody wants to be in politics. this is what each side is doing to the other. how is it different than politics as usual. gregg: the polite term is opposition research, the correct term is digging dirt on your opponent. you are right, it's not against the law. what is remarkable is the media seems to hav

witnesses isvited glenn simpson.ted to have commissioned this infamous dossier about trump. he declined to testify, saying he is out of the country. the panel said he will issue a subpoena for his testimony. david: last question. there is other stuff going on as we heard from steven dennis. what is the number one thing you will be watching for in terms of health care this week? a vote this to do week. they said this before but this is how much they said it in terms of timing. we are waiting to see if this will be a vote on a repeal only bill that will be a two-year delay, or if it will be a replacement bill that were that mcconnell has released. we still do not know if that that will happen or what it will they, and we are not sure will get enough votes to advance it. all of those things remain unknown, even to the republican members themselves who seem to be waiting to hear what the plan will be. david: kevin whitelaw for us here at bloomberg television. a programming note, president donald trump set to deliver rema

as well as glenn simpson who is the head of that firm, behind that russian dossier all cut deals to avoid h public in today's hearing providing records, potentially private interview before they come publicly. >> that kicks off very short ily. you'll see the opening statements here. some more breaking news. >>> officials tell cnn that foreign general jeff sessions indeed as some reports were swirling is planning to announce stepped up multiple investigations on leaks. this is something the president has called for over and over again and criticized the attorney general for not doing more. >> yes. the this may be one of the paths that he has to rehabilitation in the eyes of the president. see what happens with that. >>> joining us now to talk about a lot of developments this morning democratic congressman of california, congressman thanks for being with us. first we want to get your reaction to the breaking news, the president put out a statement saying that transgender individuals will not be allowed to serve in the united states military in any capacity. your reaction. >> i thank you, jo

. >> a source has glenn simpson whose company fusion gps was behind the anti-trump dossier.. the president son-in-law back on capitol hill for a second day, spending three hours behind closed doors with house intelligence committee lawmakers. >> it was a productive session. we had an opportunity to ask about a range of issues. >> i found him to be straightforward, forthcoming. i want -- >> the president seemed to mock the probes writing that his youngest son could be called as a witness. "jared kushner did very well yesterday in proving he did not collude with the russians. witch hunt. next up, 11 year old barron trump!" manafort produced records. based on the latest negotiations, manafort and donald trump, jr. are not expected before the congressional panel until september. >> bret: it's important to clarify you have the house and senate investigations but they are completely separate from the special counsel, robert mueller's investigation. but we are learning about that, we don't really have a ton of details. >> look at the congressional investigation and the hearings and

this dump any fusion gps, this is run by this former journalist with "the wall street journal," glenn simpson, or contacts focused on discussions with the committee say the subpoena was withdrawn, simpson did not have to appear today and he is now cooperating with them in an effort to provide a transcribed interview, some testimony in the future about this unverified dossier. >> melissa: lots of information they are, catherine herridge, thank you for that report. >> jon: the staff shakeup by the white house might be the beginning as a new communications director anthony scaramucci suggests it might be time to clean house. the white house. >> what i have to focus on is the 40 or so people in my staff. we are going to let people go if we have to. so you miss the big city? i don't miss much... definitely not the traffic. excuse me, doctor... the genomic data came in. thank you. you can do that kind of analysis? yeah, watson. i can quickly analyze millions of clinical and scientific reports to help you tailor treatment options for the patient's genomic profile. you can do that? even way out here?

this is a former journalist, glenn simpson. he is part of the firm called fusion gps.s cooperated with the senate judiciary committee and arts conflicting reports on whether they issued as a subpo, and if you will take the fifth or try to work out some last-minute deal to answer their questions privately, jon scott. >> catherine herridge, thank yo thank you. >> i believe we will come to the vice president, will be here in case he has to break a tie. senator mccain is coming back. we continue to work with all the members of the conference to get to that number. >> melissa: wyoming senator john barrasso in the newsroom this morning, sounding confident that they will begin debate to repeal obamacare. that vote is expected to start next hour with vice president pence on hand to break a tie, as you heard. to show just how crucial this vote is, senator john mccain is returning to capitol hill to vote as well. senate majority whip, john horton today republicans have to succeed where democrats failed. >> unfortunately, health care has become partisan. the detriment of the comp

. >> a source has glenn simpson whose company fusion gps was behind the anti-trump dossier. he is cooperating. the president son-in-law back on capitol hill for a second day, spending three hours behind closed doors with house intelligence committee lawmakers. >> it was a productive session. we had an opportunity to ask about a range of issues. >> i found him to be straightforward, forthcoming. i want -- >> the president seemed to mock the probes writing that his youngest son could be called as a witness. "jared kushner did very well yesterday in proving he did not collude with the russians. witch hunt. next up, 11 year old barron trump!" manafort produced records. based on the latest negotiations, manafort and donald trump, jr. are not expected before the congressional panel until september. >> bret: it's important to clarify you have the house and senate investigations but they are completely separate from the special counsel, robert mueller's investigation. but we are learning about that, we don't really have a ton of details. >> look at the congressional investigation an

but glenn simpson had be asked to appear before the senate judiciary committee wednesday.hey expected to hear from two other significant witnesses, paul manafort and donald trump jr., but simpson says no. the reason why he says this request is a partisan request, his attorney says they asked for him to appear as a pretext to try to cast doubt on efforts to look into possible collusion between the trump campaign and russian officials. he said they asked for documents that are way too broad, and he says he will not appear before this committee. he says if he is subpoenaed, as chuck grassley has threatened, that he would go and actually potentially plead the fifth amendment. so a very significant development here as the committee tries to move forward with its investigation. and still, brianna, no word back from donald trump jr. or paul manafort if they will attend as well in that wednesday hearing. they're undergoing, what we understand, some pretty active discussions behind the scenes ahead of that wednesday testimony, and they, too, have been threatened by subpoenas from s

. >> former journalist glenn simpson whose company was behind the unverified salacious dossier compiledy former british spy is not cooperating with investigators and the congressional subpoena was withdrawn for wednesday senate hearing. the president's son in law was back on capitol hill for a second day, spending three hours behind closed doors with house intelligence committee lawmakers. >> it was a very productive session. we had an opportunity to ask about a range of issues that the committee has been concerned about. >> i found it was straightforward, forthcoming. he wanted to answer every question that we had. >> on twitter, the president seems to mock the congressional russian pope to my prose. jared kushner did very well yesterday proving he did not collude with the russians. witch hunt, up 11 year old darren trump. >> a source today at fox news that the subpoena has been withdrawn in the last few minutes. senator dianne feinstein has told fox news that manafort and donald trump, jr., will not be appearing tomorrow at the public hearing. they are looking for a date on the calend

and glenn simpson, founder of this fusion gps group, to come to this same meeting.s to get this all done voluntarily. over the last few days it became increasingly clear manafort and donald jr. did not want to be here voluntarily. there was a subpoena issued by the committee yesterday for paul manafort but even then, they are tying to work in good faith to get this settled without a subpoena. now we are told there's a behind the scenes conversation still ongoing about trying to get the documents they need and paul manafort into this building to talk about these issues, whether or not it's in an open and closed session, still up for debate. those negotiations continue we are told oeven now. >> what's the word on don jr.? >> reporter: well, same general rule applies here. as long as the committee feels like he's negotiating with them in good faith, they will wait for an opportunity to get him here without issuing a subpoena. they like that as sort of the last ditch effort. they like to leave that threat, if you will, hanging out there without being realized. same thin

what glenn simpson did was pitch journalists in major publications that sergei hadn't been murdered.died of natural causes, which is patently false. he said that he wasn't a whistleblower, that he was a criminal when in fact sergei magnitsky was murdered. >> martha: they tried to dismantle your story, which i know you believe is the truth. about what happened to your friend, because they didn't like the sanctions and they want to dismantle that whole underpinning to the story. in terms of the meeting that natalia veselnitskaya had with donald trump, jr., and paul manafort and others, they came to that meeting under the pretense in the email that she was going to deliver the dirt on hillary clinton. knowing the players here, how do you think that part of it got cooked up? i know you believe that they were really just to get them in the room to get them on board with lifting the sanctions. >> what you have to understand about these people is that this is effectively a russian operation, the russian government operation. there's a specific objective, which is at the top of putin's list,

the third individual bob mueller also cleared, glenn simpson who is in charge of that research firm. mueller saying that committee can also look and talk to him in a public session. so, look for all this to take place in a matter of the coming weeks or days. >> looks like pretty good cooperation through the special counsel robert mueller and the senate. thanks very much, manu raju on capitol hill. i want to go back to senator chris coons. >>> what do you make of this eighth person, this mystery person as he's been described, all of a sudden also showing up at that meeting? >> well, wolf, it's really sfrieking that donald trump, jr., the president's son, his son-in-law jared kushner, and his campaign manager paul manafort, had what was initially presented as just a brief meeting about russian adoption. and as the days have gone by, we hear about a fourth person, 6th person, seventh person, now eighth person. and it raises questions for me about whether any of the representations that we've gotten publicly about what went on at this meeting, igts its purpose and it's out come. >> diane

publicly, but the committee did issue a subpoena for another witness expected to come on wednesday, glenn simpsonr of fusion gps, behind that russian dossier. saying this hearing is a pretext to throw cold water on the issue of collusion with russian and trump officials. that is why he is not appearing next wednesday. but this deal cut with paul manafort and donald trump, jr., has avoided the notion of subpoenas for now. >> a lot to discuss. i want to bring back in my panel. dana, the negotiations the senators are having with donald trump, jr. and manafort, what would they be negotiating exactly? could it include the scope of the questions or just the scope of the information they're expected to turn over? >> probably more likely the information. it's hard to imagine, you know, journalists, maybe even more importantly when you're talking about investigators that they would agree to limit the scope of questions, particularly because they're following the investigation and their questions will be based on what they learned. what they, manafort and don, jr. clearly want to avoid, is a spectacle. and

. >> senator, glenn simpson, one of the people who hired a former british spy to write what is now become an infamous dossier about donald trump, is also going to testify before your committee next week. we are just learning this. what do you want to hear from him? >> well, i think there will be challenges from the republican side to the dossier and to its veracity. and, so, we'll be interested in seeing how he defends himself. in my view, while there were parts of the dossier that seem to be typographical mistakes and there were assertions, particularly some very salacious assertions that could not be proven, of which there was no further evidence, in all the areas where elements have been checked and double checked there was a lot of truth in that dossier, and more needs to be run down to see whether it's all true. but like a lot of early intelligence dossiers, you're not providing your client the final facts. you're applying what you're hearing out there and you have to go on from there. but i think we understand that that dossier was constructed in good faith by a professional and is

is glenn simpson, founder of using gps. -- fusion gps. i have been asking about the russians who were working with fusion gps to smear him and undermine the act. is thepson's company same firm that oversaw the creation of the unverified trump dossier. around the same time fusion helped orchestrate a campaign to --eal the magnet ski act magnitski act. there are reports the fbi used the dossier to kickstart the investigation. did they know that fusion pitched propaganda for the russians even as it pushed the dossier? what would they say about its reliability? if it was represented to any court, should this fact have been disclosed? two individuals has been in the news a lot. the first is a russian lawyer -- natalia read -- -- her asefer to him russian agent xyz. [laughter] a russian company received millions of dollars connected to crime for his uncovering. the other person is a russian-american lobbyist with reported ties to russian intelligence. the new york times described him arts.aster of the dark these were reportedly at the meeting w