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glenn simpson squaring off with the senate judiciary investigators. n hour closed-door session yesterday. one of the lingering questions as who funded this salacious dossier since his lawyer said simpson answer questions but would not give up client names. can investigators get to the answers? will we ever get those answers? david, how significant. we haven't heard any leaks come out of this meeting. we do know we are not going to hear about the clients. >> david: we are not going to hear yet but let's see where it goes with the mueller investigation and the dossier. glenn simpson spent ten hours there. he also brought up something else interesting, and this has been leaked. was it a big republican donor who paid for the dossier? i would suggest people read what chuck ross has been doing on the story. there's going to be more coming out. ten hours is a lot to cover. democrats and republicans were present, and those clients, well, if they subpoena and start bringing this into part of the prosecution, than those clients have to be revealed. >> eboni: he

david: senator grassley's office subpoenaed some of the documents glenn simpson has, gps fusion has.received thousands of document that were blank pages to which one of senator grassley's associates said this shows they are stonewalling senator grassley. that won't continue for long. ed: grassley will subpoena them in a heartbeat. he's very, very tough. a very good investigator. he will get to the bottom of it. david: the attacks on the president from republicans continue. we have this dust-up between senator corker and the president. why don't -- with the democratic opposition in such disarray against the president, why doesn't senator corker who we see here and the other senators and congressmen who have been criticizing the president for statement he made about charlottesville, this is an historic opportunity to change the tax system in addition to many other aspects of the government that are wrong right now. why don't they get their act together? ed: what the republicans have to understand is the president does not have good approval numbers they will be sunk. whatever his numbe

it forms the core of the mueller probe and in significance of glenn simpson, he testified in a than scribednterview that looks like it will be made public, well, i believe the fbi probably has very little to learn from mr. simpson's testimony at this point. they have got all of his information. because they were working with his partner christopher steele for many months the former british author, but the public doesn't have that information. who knows -- in ten hours of testimony what other allegations mr. simpson laid out and evidence to substantiate the allegations that have not been made public in the dossier. for this document to become public will have a significant influence on how the whole investigation is viewed. >> let me ask you a quick last question. when the dossier itself went public in january, the president of the united states was justifiably irate and it set off a day's long war of words between the president, the white house and the media outlets that published it and even the ones that simply mentioned its existence. it came into the news because jim comey had stayed be

and we're learning a lot more about glenn simpson and his activities now. >> well, simpson met yesterday ten hours with investigators from both parties of senate judiciary committee. and they did not get an answer to the number one question they had, which is who retained you and paid you to do this research on donald trump? we know that toward the end of the summer of 2016 and to the fall of 2016, apparently, fusion gps was paying an intermediary who paid intermediaries to pay russians to give dirt to an expert spy on trump. david: right. >> so there's some really, really funky things going on in this case and simpson met voluntarily with the committee. they couldn't force him to testify. and one thing that he has said all along that he's not going to talk about is who retained him. david: well, and, again, the key -- for all the talk about russian collusion, this does seem to be a case, if, in fact, it plays out. you and i follow the evidence. that's our job. but the evidence seems to be pointing that there was a relationship between fusion gps, the democrats, and moscow. if you're loo

we bring in ken dilanian. >> glenn simpson was still talking to investigators behind closed doors.t's been going on for hours. i find it significant because there are few people who know more about the connections between donald trump and russia than mr. simpson. he is a former "wall street journal" reporter who has, for years, been investigating russian corruption and russian politicians. he formed a private investigative firm and was hired in september 2015 by a never-trump republican, we don't know who, to investigate donald trump. and in a form of opposition research. he quickly began focusing on ties between trump and russia. he ended up working with former intelligence officer christopher they turned some of this information over to the fbi, but nothing appeared to be happening until james comey got a coopy from john mccain after the election. that seemed to spark a further fbi investigation. the fbi talked to christopher steele about working for them. that never happened, but it's clear the fbi was taking the dossier very seriously. but it's only 35 pages. glen simpson knows

. >> so the staff of ron's old committee took ten hours of testimony yesterday from glenn simpson from fusion gps about the dossier that we've all heard about that is how this investigation started on trump and russia and chuck grassley, the chairman of that committee, was asked about this tonight at a town hall in iowa and the questioner who asked chuck grassley about it has become rachel maddow's new boyfriend and you'll see why. that's what she said on her show. you will see why. >> the senate judiciary committee, staff members met for ten hours and i'd like to know what they discovered in that meeting and i'd like the transcripts released. will you do that? >> the answer is it will take a vote of the committee to do it. >> will you do that? >> of course. we'll put it to a vote of the committee. >> will you personally vote for the release of the transcripts? >> i don't know why i wouldn't. >> and adam, then chairman grassley tried to hide behind the idea of, well, we have to let the witness study the transcript to make sure it's all accurate and then the witness, glenn simpson, has

>> glenn simpson was calling a number of journalists the story that he was pitching was that sergey hadrdered, that he died of natural causes. it wasn't whistleblower that he was a criminal. >> simpson is 1 of 3 key witnesses that are now on deck to speak with the judiciary committee, but all of them will be behind closed doors. the other two are donald trump junior and the former campaign chairman paul mena for it. we don't have a timetable on their sessions at this point. >> eric: thank you, catherine. >> you're welcome. >> shannon: meanwhile, president trump pumping up and enthusiastic crowd last night, revving up his base in the face of growing political opposition. >> we went to center stage and we never left, right? all of us, we did together. you were there at the start, you've been there every single day since, and i will never forget. believe me, arizona, i will never forget. >> shannon: trump supporters going wild is a double down on building a border wall, warning that he is willing to shut down the government. if that's what it takes. arizona congressman reacting on "america

>> glenn simpson was calling a number of journalists, the story you are pitching was that he had not been murdered but he died of natural causes. that he was not a whistle-blower, he was a criminal. >> simpson is one of the three key witnesses to speak in a private with the senate judiciary committee. >> melissa: it's like a spy novel. >> it is. >> melissa: unbelievable story story. catherine herridge, we really appreciate it. >> jon: the trump administration is trying to broker peace talks between palestinians and israelis, with the jared kushner, the president's son-in-law visiting. while over there, he is running into a diplomatic snob. how the there could be an impan the legislation the white house wants passed. president trump took a shot at lawmakers on the other side of the aisle in arizona the other night. >> all of the democrats in congress, that's the only thing they do well. they do one thing well, you know what it's called? they have no ideas, they have no policies, they obstruct. that's all they do. with claim rateguard your rates won't go up just because of a claim. i t

. >> glenn simpson met with investigators behind closed doors. their focus, the sources for the unverified dossier and who paid ford. -- paid for it. senate investigators complained simpson provided worthless records, including press clippings. simpson's company fusion gps provided a copy of the same unverified dossier that's been publicly available things january. in july, the senate committee issued a subpoena to secure public testimony. fox news found him at a colorado security conference, his lawyer reported he was on vacation and not available. fox news asked for further clarification today and received no response. last month, charles grassley pressed for answers about simpson's work, including undermining a russian whistle-blower and advocating for the repeal of u.s. sanctions, punishing senior russian officials. >> can you explain how mr. simpson manipulated the media to smear you? >> the story he was pitching was that magitsky wasn't murdered. >> the russian ambassador to washington was asked about a 2016 meeting with mike flynn and the

. >>> well, yesterday, glenn simpson, he's a key figure behind the so-called trump do dossi dossier,oors to investigators on the senate investigatory committee. tonight, the chairman of that committee, chuck grassley of iowa, told a town hall out in iowa that the judiciary plans to hold a vote on whether to release the full transcript of that all-day interview. that will be interesting to everybody. and we'll be right back. i don't miss much... definitely not the traffic. excuse me, doctor... the genomic data came in. thank you. you can do that kind of analysis? yeah, watson. i can quickly analyze millions of clinical and scientific reports to help you tailor treatment options for the patient's genomic profile. you can do that? even way out here? yes. even way out here. even way out here? it's our back to school beeone cent evente. at office depot office max. 10 pack pens, one cent. composition notebooks,scissors, and plastic folders all one cent each! hurry to office depot office max. ♪taking care of business. if you have moderate to severe ulcerative colitis or crohn's, and your sy

senate investigators met behind closed doors this week with glenn simpson whose team created that dossiertranscripts of the ten-hour meeting could be released. i need my panel to weigh in on this. matt welsh and james peterson. matt, walk me through this. chuck grassley said last night that maybe they're going to release these transcripts. why? why would chuck grassley think that's a good idea? >> because they're doing the american people's business in an investigation. i don't see any compelling reason to keep this thing secret at all. it's not so we can get salacious details from the dossier but where was the travel report of the dossier? who got it when? who did they share it with? when did it get into intelligence hands and the media's hands? all that is important information. we should know that. it's normal, standard operating procedure for investigations in capitol hill to become public information. >> many of the claims in that dossier have already been debunked. we're already dealing with such a chaotic, messy time. that's the last thing we need. does putting this out there help

glenn simpson, a former journalist who specialized in money laundering and russian organized crime, andthe private investigation of trump and russia last year. this is how simpson described what he does at a recent film festival. >> i call it journalism for rent. >> reporter: simpson first began his efforts when trump was running in the republican primary. according to political operatives, simpson was initially paid about a million dollars by wealthy republicans and then more later by democrats who both wanted him to dig up dirt on trump and plant negative news stories. the 35-page dossier on the so-called russian connection to trump with some very salacious allegations, including unsubstantiated claims about trump in a moscow hotel room, was not completed until just before the election. and then provided to journalists, the clinton campaign and the fbi, all to the outrage of donald trump. >> i saw the information, i read the information outside of that meeting. it's all fake news. it's phony stuff. it didn't happen. >> reporter: now, many republicans in congress are working to discred