and you have glenn simpson. you that have whole chain of custody being disrupted and people creating circular intelligence. >> laura: one investigator told you the following, the dossier and its related dirt was on a circular flight path aboard a curious service called air clinton and the fbi kept signing for the packages. that's chilling. >> isn't that called collusion? or conspiracy to gin up a totally inappropriate, totally illegal wire? based on national security? and doesn't it with no investigation, doesn't it taint the entire russian probe? how much of that information from that wire ended up being in the russian probe? how much is presently infecting it and why doesn't manafort lawyers move to dismiss for taint. there will never be an indictment of the president. but we want to investigate that in the counter report we are write to whatever kind of hatchet job might be done on the president which i hope doesn't happen. >> laura: this is one of the best parts of the hearing. let's watch. >> the fbi got do

. >> did you ever communicate with glenn simpson? >> no. >> did you ever communicate with nelly ore? >> no. >> did you ever communicate with bruce ore? >> yes. >> when? >> my recollection is some where between three or four five times in the late 2016, early 2017 time frame. >> what did you talk about? >> we talked about investigative matters that mr. ore was involved in. >> did you talk about the investigation we're focused on her here, agent strzok? >> my direction from the fbi is that i may not answer that question, sir. >> let's go back to the email that you sent that you won't talk about. are there three copies of the dossier as evidence by what you said in this email? >> to be clear, i want to talk about this email. i want nothing more -- >> you can say that all you want but you're not talking about it and you're not answering my questions. are there three copies? >> three copies of what? >> the mccann copy and the buzzfeed copy and the one you got from corn and simpson -- let me ask you one another question. let me ask you one

if glenn simpson says if no one spoke with the fbi, how is it that you go the copy of the dossier from simpson. >> i can tell you i never had contact with fusion or mr. simpson, with mr. corn. >> chairman, regular order. >> the gentleman will have a few more seconds since he was interrupted. >> this is frustration that every single member of this committee feels, when agent strzok won't answer fundamental questions like corn and simpson, he won't tell me who they are. that's as frustrating as it could get. i yield back. >> it is as frustrating to me as it is to you. i can tell you sir, i would love - >> you know what -- mr. chairman, may the witness be permitted to answer. >> if it is so frustrating, answer the question. >> if you allow him to, i am sure he will. >> he never answered the question. >> stop interrupting him. >> the gentleman from ohio stop badgering. >> we are about to move on. the gentleman from ohio time is expired. mr. strzok can answer questions. >> mr. chairman, before mr. gaddy start, may i respond? >> there is an appropriate time for over sight and you know it is

john mccain, far left reporter, and glenn simpson of diffusion gps. jordan asked him about the email earlier today. >> are there three copies of the dossier? >> cert to be clear i want to talk about this. >> you can say that all you want, you are not talking about that. are there three copies? >> three copies of what? i never had contact with fusion, with mr. simpson. >> laura: to explain the significance of this, stay with us. john solomon himself. rudy giuliani is going, this can be really happening. john, why does this matter that there are three different versions of the salacious dossier floating around at different times that are clearly attacking donald trump? >> in counterintelligence, one of the most important thing agent should avoid. it's an echo chamber. they fired mr. steele. member, they had inappropriate contact. >> laura: he shouldn't have talked to reporters. it really reliable, thanks. >> somehow, these updates keep happening. john mccain, they gave it to him. he said a big fan of president trump. >> laura: we need to talk more about

agent strzok. >> get the answers to those questions. >> has the fbi given you permission to say if glenn simpson is the name used in the email where you say simpson? >> i don't believe they have given me guidance. my most recent understanding of my guidance from the fbi is in response to the question of whether the fbi received documents from mr. ohr. the answer is we did. that's all i'm authorized to say. >> to the fbi give give you -- >> the fbi is not directed me or allowed me to respond. >> i yelled back. the bigger the committee will stand in recess until immediately after this series of votes. >> jesse: that was peter strzok, the fbi agent, lead investigator on the clinton email probe, lead investigator on the trump-russia probe. a lot of people are accusing him of bias and he denied bias all day long, girl there on capitol hill for hours by a joint house committee. let's to get around the table. that was a marathon today, very contentious. >> greg: i felt like i was unemployed on the sofa watching back-to-back episodes of jerry springer. that was like parliament without the wigs. this who

and i would deduce that fusion gps and glenn simpson therefore put together the same talking points forputin because they were the same talking points in trump tower, so in that helsinki meeting last week, vladimir putin said a whole bunch of stuff about me and as far as i can tell, i think those talking points came from glenn simpson. maria: well the senate voted down any idea that russians would be able to question you and donald trump obviously agreed with that, so that's not happening but i've seen some of your quotes in the press. you're afraid that if in fact that were to happen, you're a dead man. >> well basically even if there's only 1% chance of it happening if i get handed over to the russians and to vladimir putin, i will be killed, there's no question about it. they made death threats on a number of occasions, a number of other people connected to this case have either been killed or attempted to be killed. vladimir putin wants me dead. this is not, this is a very serious matter. maria: now the charges that he levels against you which were all debunked, but he says you avoi

fox news understands glenn simpson, the cofounder of fusion gps, is the u.s. person." record showing yahoo news article about carter page and allegations he was working with the russians in a significant part of the application. republicans say the yahoo news report was not a separate stream of intelligence. but rather have the same source as the unverified dossier. democrats defend the fbi's actions. >> those applications had out in some detail a lot of which is redacted just why the fbi was so concerned that carter page might be acting as an agent of a foreign power. >> tonight. public and chairman of the house intelligence committee spoke with fox's laura ingraham. >> the dossier was used in this application and it made up the bulk of the fisa. even with the redactions gamete can see that's the case. if i am the president, i would focus his efforts on declassifying the rest of this fisa. >> there is pressure this week as the house nears the august recess. >> shannon: catherine herridge, thank you very much, as always. therefore judges who approved of fisa warrants w

if glenn simpson says no one ever spoke with the fbi, how is it that you got a copy of the dossier from simpson? >> sir, i can tell you i never had contact with fusion, with mr. simpson, with mr. corn. and again, sir -- >> chairman, regular order. >> the gentleman will have a few more seconds since he was interrupted. >> well, i mean, this is the frustration that every single member of this committee feels is when agent strzok won't -- more importantly, the american people feel when agent strzok won't answer fundamental questions like the guy he references in an e-mail, corn and simpson, and won't tell me who they are. this is unbelievable. but that's where it's gotten to now, and it's as frustrating as it can get, mr. chairman, i yield back. >> mr. chairman, may i respond? >> briefly. >> sir, it is as frustrating to me as it is to you. i can tellas you, sir, i would - >> well, you know what, agent strzok? -- >> mr. chairman, may the witness be permitted to answer -- [inaudible conversations] >> gentleman will suspend. >> if it's so frustrating, answer the question. >> if you'll allow h

works for glenn simpson. and she's giving documents -- >> regular order, please. >> let us bring the director of the fbi to answer those questions. the gentleman cannot answer. asked and answered. >> the american people -- >> he cannot answer. >> the gentlewoman -- the regular order is -- >> i understand, mr. chairman. regular order. >> the fbi has now instructed mr. strzok he can answer additional questions and mr. -- >> agent strzok -- >> i have question to get the answers to the questions. >> the fbi approved. has the fbi also given you permission to say if glenn simpson is the name you used in the e-mail where you say simpson? >> i don't believe they have given me guidance. my most recent understanding of my guidance from the fbi is in response to the question of whether the fbi received documents from -- >> has the fbi -- >> yes, we did, and that's all i'm authorized to say. >> has the fbi given you information to tell me whether you knew nellie ohr worked for fusion at the time you were meeting with her

agent strzok, in earlier round you said you never talked to glenn simpson, right? >> correct. >> and you never talked to nellie orr? >> correct. >> and you wouldn't say whether you knew if nellie orr worked for fusion, is that correct? >> my understanding from my direction of the fbi is i am not permitted to answer that question. >> okay. but you did say you talked with bruce orr, fellow department of justice employee and nellie orr's husband? >> yes. >> but it is common knowledge that nellie orr worked for fusion in the summer of 2016, is that right? >> i don't know if it's common knowledge or not. >> it's been in all kinds of reports. >> it is now, absolutely. >> press reports. all right. you met with bruce orr in 2016 and 2017, so the time period that we're focused on. >> to the best of my recollection, yes. >> and you won't tell me what you guys talked about. >> i can tell you we talked about operational matters that he was involved in, but the fbi has directed me not to give you -- >> specifically you can't get into specifics and details. did bruce orr give yo

. >> glenn simpson is on the list. >> those we kicked to the task force. mr. cliff is on the task force. we need them interviewed on camera as soon as possible. >> before you go, let me ask you in terms of what happens now and you know, whether or not you think you will see accountability here. >> i think you only see accountability if there is a second special council that investigates all of this or somebody outside the leadership that will run a real investigation. >> what should the president ask or speak to putin about. >> number one, don't hand the reset button over. number two, what he is doing with you and nato he's done for a long time. one pay your fair share and we can't allow them to run on russian gas. they are feeding the russian obesity. the germans are only paying 1.3%. >> yeah. >> i laugh when they say trump shouldn't meet with putin. he has did you know more on the hiest -- highest issues. pointing them out to the european people. you have to stop buying gas and beef up poland and romanian. only by force will he understand anything. we should

earlier this month and answer this line of questioning from jim jordan but the opposition firm, and glenn simpsontration every member of stzrok won't answer fundamental questions like the guy he tell me who they are, this is unbelievable. >> it is as frustrating to me as it is to you. >> the closed-door deposition identified records unknown to lawmakers. one on found document and efforts to verify the trump dossier. those records will now be provided in the issue is timing. did the fbi try to verify the allegations before the dossier was used as evidence in the surveillance warrant application. heading into the meeting justice department officials indicated to fox news they believe they complied with congressional subpoenas articles of will the resolution to impeach rosenstein be considered before the house breaks for august recess? the house oversight committee, let's talk about this. elicited the privilege revolution tomorrow it will go is this a pr stunt. >> we have been doing this round and round for months and months. i have been saying if you want to change their behavior you have to impose

. >> nell owe orr works for fusion, works for glenn simpson -- >> regular order, please. let us bring the director of the fbi to answer those questions. the gentleman cannot answer. asked and answered. >> the american people -- >> asked and answered. he cannot answer. >> the gentlewoman -- regular order is -- >> i understand, mr. chairman. regular order. >> the fbi has now instructed mr. strzok that he can answer additional questions and mr. -- >> agent strzok -- >> jordan has official time to get the answers to those questions that he earlier was thwarted in getting. >> has the fbi also given you permission to say if glenn si simpson is the name that you use in the e-mail where you say simpson. >> i don't believe they have given me guidance. my most recent understanding of the guidance from the fbi is in response to the question of whether the fbi received documents from mr. orr. the angeswer is yes, they did. >> has the fbi given you information to tell me whether you knew nellie orr worked for fusion at the time you were meeting with her husband? >> sir, to my knowledg

and glenn simpson. this will end badly for him.inconceivable the statements he makes that he claims he didn't give the dossier. >> sean: when do we ever get an arrest? >> i think grassly is on to simpson. >> sean: what about comey and the news about lisa page tonight and peter strzok supposed to testifify. >> i sent you a note that lisa page would not testifify. she received a subpoena for in person. failure to act is a criminal act. but her lawyers know that the d.c. courts are filled with liberal judges. they don't have a backbone. they won't go after her. >> sean: she could plead the fifth. >> seek immunity. i would not advise her to open her mouth. she raft left the fbi. nothing in it to open her mikity. >> sean: this gets to the hearth of the second part. they allowed hillary who broke laws to get away it with it. now they tried to frame donald trump. this dossier was a big part of it. >> yes. when you think about it. instead of having sources in moscow telling them they were cluding with russia all they have is hillary clinto

trump or as molly hemingway tweeting out and reported today, strzok wrote at gps -- fusion gps' glenn simpsonified that he never communicated with the fbi. so we have these links and the questions. the big question is what action was taken to change the outcome of the russia investigation or is that the reason for the russia investigation to begin with. >> the bigger umbrella here which cuts across both parties is the idea that what happens when somebody inside like an important agency in our lives as the americans as the fbi and the doj, what happens when there is bias in this organization among employees. and this was a different kind of a working relationship, marie. they were lovers. there's a lot of material there to read through and maybe one was trying to impress the other. we don't know. there was a said plan to keep the president out of the white house. >> they texted about something that we don't know what they were talking about. so i said yesterday and i said today, she should go before congress and answer questions. she should answer them. if there's so you have these two individ

jim jordan about the opposition research firm behind the dossier, fusion gps, and its cofounder glenn simpson. >> this is the frustration every single member of the committee feels. agent strzok one answer fundamental questions like the guy he references in an email, won't tell me who they are. this is unbelievable. >> >> sir, it's as frustrating o me as it is to you. >> the closed-door depositions from strzok and fbi lawyer lisa page identified records previously unknown to lawmakers. about at least one filed document to the fbi's efforts to verify the trump dossier. those records will not be provided and the issue is timing. did the fbi try to verify the allegations before the dossier was used as evidence in the surveillance warrant application? heading into the meeting, justice department officials indicated there they believe they have complied with the majority of congressional subpoenas on the articles of impeachment tonight there is noe response. >> shannon: catherine herridge, thank you very much. will the resolution to impeach rosenstein be considered to my brother house breaks? let'

>> that's correct >> did you know that he was meeting with representatives including glenn simpson. >> sure can. you can hold my time, please. >> sir, i would like to answer your question but couldn't discuss the content of the matter. >> i appreciate that. >> at the time you were meeting with bruce, did you know that his wife works for fusion? >> again, i believe the same answer, standby, sir, sorry about the time. >> i can't answer that question. >> let's go back to the e-mail. sounds like in your e-mail you are saying comparing now and sounds like there are three copies but three different versions. you said it is identical of what mccain had and referring to the dossier and the one from corn and simpson. to give you the context of that comment, i have to tell you sir, this is more frustrating it is for me than you. to give you an accurate answer, i have to give you the context of what was going on which includes details that i have been instructed by the fbi that i may not provide. >> well, there is another e-mail down below on the one that you are looking at. it has 16 sections t

two years ago they were agoing over a guy named glenn simpson, who was distributing russian disinformationapping it up as though messages from god. that information we found out is highly questionable now. his relationship with the russians is highly questionable. should be investigated more than it is. what do you think about the fact that rod rosenstein, the deputy ag, is, this crowd's new hero? >> you don't think they were cheering for news about cybersecurity that he was there? david: no, i don't think so. >> very clear. i haven't been a big fan of the deputy attorney general. i think he is undown -- unconscionably stonewalled on documents that congress has a right to see. people out there perceive him anti-trump. that is why he is being cheered, someone standing up to trump. i don't think this bodes well. david: how much longer does the president, for whom this guy serves at his, his pleasure, how much longer does the president have? >> i think he is getting terrible advice from his attorneys. i wrote a column earlier this week, the president could solve a lot of this by declassifying

orr, did you know that he was meeting with representatives from fusion, including glenn simpson? >> may i consult with counsel, sir? >> you sure can. if you could hold my time, please. >> sir, again, i would like to answer your question and it's a short and easy answerable question, but at the direction of the fbi, i cannot discuss the content of the operational matters that i discussed with mr. orr. >> i appreciate that, agent strzok. at the time of your meeting with bruce orr did you know that his wife, nellie, worked for fusion? >> again, i believe the same answer. stand by, sir, again, please. sorry about the time. sir, again, i'm sorry. i would like to answer that question but at the direction of the fbi because it relates to an ongoing operational matter, i can't. >> let's go back to the e-mail. i just want to make sure i understand this. it sounds like you're saying comparing now, it sounds like there are three copies, but two different versions. the set you are examining and referencing to your colleagues you say is identical to what mccain had. again referring to the dos

person one that we believe fox news believes in our reporting is glenn simpson the fusion gps with thehat as well but you look at all of the redactions and how much has been withheld by the doj and the fbi and you just can't help but be skeptical that at the high levels there's people still covering people's backs trying to not get embarrassed and they don't want this information coming out. we've heard so much misinformation, so to finally get documents that point out that admit that the dossier was the source of this, has to call into question the mueller probe and it has to call into question as meadows said as david bossie said the role of rod rosenstein. if jeff sessions recused himself from meeting a couple guys, if rosenstein is now in charge of the mueller probe and verified unverified and approved things that are not valid, i don't know how he can be perceived as fair, let alone what the president calls the 13 angry democrats. the clinton supporters that are digging into the past and they haven't found anything yet on carter page, yet they have all that surveillance? it just f