that was a intense back and forth yesterday with glenn thrush and sarah huckabee sanders.ave any more clarity on to the question as to whether or not it disturbed them they were meeting with folks about a story later retracted by that network? >> no, i don't think there's an ounce of contrition in my -- and my sense is that the general feeling was that it was part of the interaction that they often have with conservative media. you know, steve bannon sits in the west wing as obviously the former chairman of breitbart. he has communication, it's been reported well that he has done that. and josh green's excellent book he talks about bannon having conversations with roger ailes and rupert murdoch. i think those kind of interactions are standard for this white house and the larger context important to understand is this president and his staff have been relentless -- relentless, in fact sarah was blasting the press for the russia obsession. they had been relentless us of accusing us of being light on hillary clinton or colluding with the democrats. the coordination that's occ

that's the right thing to do. >> heidi przybyla, glenn thrush, thank you for joining us. on with me again without your hat on i'm black balling you forever. >> okay. i will wear the hat. baseball cap though. >> all right, fine. >>> when we come back, drain the swamp. it's president's second most popular tag line behind maga of course but he may be helping to fill the swamp. the reporter who has that story joins us next. thank you so much. thank you! so we're a go? yes! we got a yes! what does that mean for purchasing? purchase. let's do this. got it. book the flights! hai! si! si! ya! ya! ya! what does that mean for us? we can get stuff. what's it mean for shipping? ship the goods. you're a go! you got the green light. that means go! oh, yeah. start saying yes to your company's best ideas. we're gonna hit our launch date! (scream) thank you! goodbye! let us help with money and know-how, so you can get business done. american express open. swhen i was too busy with the kids to get a repair estimate. i just snapped a photo and got an estimate in 24 hours. my insurance compa

. >> glenn thrush, is there some thought at the white house that things are changing?nly been a couple of days now, and we have seen less tweeting from the president, but we don't know whether that is a reflection of scheduling or of his temperament or of john kelly. >> andrea, i think things are -- have changed 180 degrees in the last 24 hours. and the president is never going to tweet again, i think john kelly is going to be able to, you know, intercept any communication with the president that isn't authorized. of course that's not going to change. donald trump is not going to change. what is interesting about both these situations involving the don jr. stuff and this terrible situation involving seth rich is let's look at the portrait of the president that we know. this is a president who takes his publish relations into his own hands. the notion that someone would come to one of the president's staffers with a piece of juicy information that was later going to appear on fox, and a staffer would not have transmitted that to the president, that does not comport with

you can't get things done simply by yelling at glenn thrush. and i think they're badly mistaken if they think this the s going to help them get out of the hole. >> one thing that is striking to me in watching this is, and i'm in touch with a lot of folks who work in immigration law and immigrant communities, and the one place that they have delivered in some ways on the trump agenda -- a lot of stuff has been stonewalled -- things have really changed if you're an immigrant in this country, if you're related to an unauthorized immigrant. >> yes. >> it's really changed. >> oh, yes. >> this may be performance, but what is happening on the ground is quite dramatic. and they are delivering. >> they're delivering in terms of the attitude. the i.c.e. agents feel completely unshackled. they're delivering on the detentions. they're not necessarily delivering yet on the massive deportations. but chris, "latino usa" this weekend, we're going to feature a whole hour on i.c.e. well start with the story of a guy i met because he worked at a plant store here,

joined by glenn thrush, white house correspondent for "the new york times" and msnbc political analyst. and glenn, you had the story this morning that it looks as if the -- that steve bannon's days were nurmd. it feels like the least amount of the story. so, what happened? so yesterday's statement, he had to give -- he was forced to give. is that what we are to learn from what happened? take us behind the scenes a little bit. he clearly sounded like a guy who was brow-beaten dinto delivering that statement yesterday, at least from the president we heard from today. >> yes, so he gives the statement on yesterday. by the way, not everyone thought it was beautiful. very few people thought it was beautiful. practically every single republican senator rebuked him for this. so he is not factual. apart from everything that he said in terms of his misinterpretation of history, chuck, and you're dead-on with his conflation of the confederate -- confederacy and the revolutionary war, which is astounding to hear a president talk about, his version of events in terms of his own response to this is

. >> glenn thrush with an astute insight into the mind of the president of the united states. wonderful to have you both here, hope you a good weekend. >>> next up, friendly fire. why is the president attacking the one man that could help him get things done in dc. first, "snl" revived their summer edition of "weekend update" last night and they didn't forget the mooch. >> the mooch has no regreats, i sold my company, missed the birth of my child, all to be king of idiot mountain for 11 days. if you have medicare parts a and b and want more coverage, guess what? you could apply for a medicare supplement insurance plan whenever you want. no enrollment window. no waiting to apply. that means now may be a great time to shop for an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. medicare doesn't cover everything. and like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, these help cover some of what medicare doesn't pay. so don't wait. call now to request your free decision guide. it could help you find the aarp medicare supplement plan

the kinds of things that you read and shout out to my colleagues, glenn thrush and colleen sullivan.s that they took six months to implement. that we had a white house that did none of those things, that people were coming in, going out of the oval office willy nilly. >> which is not normal. >> which is not normal in any white house prior to this one and that he would get something from fox news or a bre. tbart article. and that's what's changing. the big question is can it last? >> and the bloomberg reports this morning that kelly is telling west wing staffers to put country first, the president second and own needs and priorities last. i hope the president doesn't read that. i would think he would want those first two flip ped. some of the infighting is about egos clashing but some of it is concern that the country isn't being put first. >> right. you could say that might be a source of the many reasons we're seeing different narratives out of the white house and sometimes information that trump doesn't want coming out because people are putting the country above what the president

i'm going to bring in our panel, robert trainer, glenn thrush and jennifer palmeri. welcome all. glenn, it seems to be one -- well, the president's response, there is some strategy behind it. what are you hearing out of the white house? >> i think there is some strategy behind it. it is strategy filtered through the trump translator, as you can tell. it came out probably a little more coarse than you would get from a -- your standard issue president. but i think we're seeing a little bit of good cop and bad cop as juan referred to with tillerson over in manila talking with intermediaries, the chinese in particular. when we had the last nuclear test, president trump put out a tweet that put the pressure on the chinese. so the question here is, how is this being received in pyongyang? and we do not know. that is the black box in this equation. >> look, it was a point i wanted to make earlier. this has been a bipartisan policy failure for 25 years. it didn't work. and there's going to be a little bit of hand wringing about that. we got to this place because diplomacy -- >> i inherite

inside their explained to our viewers and give us a sense of exactly what happened first with glenn thrush of the new york times. so we got the announcement and we watched earlier this morning the unfolding and the revealing of the new legislation that is now on capitol hill about streamlining the immigration process and the green card application. as well as cash been refugees. that is designed to help americans who well not lose their jobs. designed to help them. mister thrush was asking a series of questions about what is the data that these people are you losing these jobs. neither man was answering the others questions or statements. let me you listen to little of what he said. >> may maybe at times we have compassion for american workers. ask them how this has affected their lives. it didn't get any, after that. i think it was april miller who was asking a series of questions while who are you targeting here. are you trying to target unemployed african-american workers. here is how he said towards the end that they responded. we want to help unemployed african-americans in this count

at the time, glenn thrush called it depressing. but this past weekend he got to be there taking pictures of the poem. a nice coda. >>> trump in texas. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm steve kornacki in for chris matthews. the city of houston facing a worst-case scenario. it has seen as much as three and a half feet of rain in some areas, and that rain is still falling. the catastrophic flooding in houston now threatening to get worse as two nearby reservoirs in a levy overflowed. emergency crews continue to race to find survivors. tens of thousands seeking refuge in shelters. >> with respect to shelters. >> we have expanded our capacity. the reality is not only are we providing shelter for houstonians, but we are also providing shelters for people who are coming from outside the stiff houston who have been directly impacted by the storm. we're not turning anyone away. >> the city plans to open two more mega shelters to accommodate the homeless. there were reports of looters in some parts of the city. the houston police chie

this exchange begins after "the new york times'" glenn thrush asked miller for stats to back up this new approach. >> i think it's very clear that -- >> how many -- >> if i could just answer -- if i could just answer your question, i named the studies, glenn. glenn, glen,nen, i named the st. >> i asked for a statistic. >> carve out in the bill that says the "new york times" can hire all the -- did see how you feel about low-wage substitution. i want to be serious. do you really at cnn not know the difference between green card policy and illegal immigration? you really don't know that? >> he came to this country in 1962 right before the cuban missile crisis and obtained a green card. but this whole notion of, well, they have to learn english before they get to the united states, are we just going to bring in people from great britain and australia? >> jim, actually, i have to honestly say i am shocked at your statement that you think that only people from great britain and australia would know english. it's actually -- it reveals your cosmopolitan bias to a shocking degree that in yo

the lead of glenn thrush and megan's art tell of on the front of tomorrow's times reads president trumpyed the white nationalist movement on tuesday as no president has done in generations equating activists protesting racism with the neonazis. and rampaged in charlottesville, virginia over the weekend. never has he gone as far as defending their actions as he did during wild street corner shouting match of a news don frens in guilded lobby of trump tower angrily asserting that so-called alt left activists were just as responsible for the bloody confrontation as marchers, brandishing swastikas, confederate battle flags anti-semitic banners and trump/pence signs. no one is more careful about checking facts before he speaks and he never goes off without having all the information checked. >> that's one of the more ridiculous things he's ever said. one of the more ridiculous claims. obviously he doesn't. he shoots from the hip, from the lip. from his whatever. h his with ever all the time. it is just a ridiculous thing to say. that the ridiculous part of it. tragic and appalling part of it

council chair who is jewish was disgusted and upset by president trump's comments according to glenn thrushes," reporting from three people with knowledge. interesting that people in the white house are sharing their views on this and it is getting out to reporters and yet beyond that, there's nothing that happens. i really didn't expect any resignations today, but it is an odd thing to have it leaked, that you're disgusted but still going to stick around, maybe he'll make you fed chair. >> honestly, i think it's worse. like first of all what the president did was basically excuse rallies in which people said things like jews, anti-semitic statements, purely anti-semitic things, and i do not understand why gary cohn is still working in the white house. first, to say i am offended about what i did, but i care so much about tax cuts for billionaires and millionaires, i am going to let it slide. how do you look people, not your jewish family, but people of common decency, how do you look them in the face when you say you don't like it and you show up. he would be fine. he can do right by his c

at the time, glenn thrush called it depressing.st weekend he got to be there taking pictures of the poem. a nice coda. >>> trump in texas. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm steve kornacki in for chris matthews. the city of houston facing a worst-case scenario. it has seen as much as three and a half feet of rain in some areas, and that rain is still falling. the catastrophic flooding in houston now threatening to get worse as two nearby

glenn thrush and peter bake at "the new york times" soon revealed that the president's words caught his own aides off guard. he was speaking extemporaneously and that note in front of him dealt not with north korea but with the opioid crisis. he apparently awakened to news in "the washington post" that pyongyang had made advances with the development of nuclear weapons that could be deployed in ballistic missiles. and this was his improvised response. and this exhibition of intemperance wasn't a one-off. on thursday he said he might not have gone far enough on tuesday. by friday, he was quadrupling down when he tweeted military solutions are now fully in place, locked and loaded, should north korea act unwisely. hopefully kim jong-un will find another path. provocation, never letting an opponent have the final word, it served the president well when vanquishing political opponents, but this is not the running of an election. the outcome could be measured in bodies, not electoral votes. it's easy to slide into war, mr. president. peace is much more difficult. so now that we are locked an

joining me now, glenn thrush and media critic eric wimpell. from the start, mr.annon, 63 has told people in his orbit, he never expected to last in his current position longer than eight months to a year. and hoped to ram through as much of his agenda as he could, while he stood in the president's favor. glenn, has he been able to ram through a lot of his agenda? >> no. he's been able to ram a lot. i think -- you know, probably his most lasting legacy thus far is putting through the cra's through the senate which slashed regulations, a lot of the folks in the senate have a similar anti-regulatory ban. the first travel ban, which was his -- which will be his real legacy is still mired in the courts. his overall tone of nationalism, economic populism, and those are probably polite terms for his philosophy, and more than anything else, a stance on immigration are durable in the trump administration. and indicakati, that's kind of he's dispensable right now. you have steve miller carrying the torch on both of those issues quite nicely. and steve miller doesn't come w

host: let's read from the new york times and the piece by peter baker and glenn thrush on the words.hey write this morning, the president's language, which aids say he used in private, escalated the dispute to a new level and left members of the trump administration scrambling on wednesday to explain what he meant. the process or lack of one that led to the ad lived comments and bodied his approach to foreign policy and improvise asian -- that leads his national security team in the dark about what you will say or do, according to several people who have the -- you have direct knowledge. the president was in a conversational mood tuesday afternoon after the washington post reported pyongyang had developed nuclear warheads small enough to be placed on missiles. his team assumed they would be asked about north korea tied to a meeting that the president was planning to hold at his golf course in new jersey about the opioid epidemic. during a conference call beforehand, the focused on north korea, donald trump did not offer a preview of what he plans to say. and even on a tinderbox issue

glenn thrush of "the new york times" quoted about this trip to arizona. do you have any concerns about this rally and president trump in arizona? >> the president is our president. we want him to be successful. people around him have to get to him, including his own family, to say, okay, you need to show leadership. you need to bring the country together. you're going to go to phoenix and make a speech, fine. that's your right. you can go there. he has free speech like the rest of us have it. but when go, try to use that as an opportunity to say something that's going to bring people together. you might recall when he delivered that speech to congress the day after people on cnn said tonight donald trump became president. he has it within him, if he can maintain discipline, he has it within him, i think, to overcome this and move forward because if all we're doing is questioning his motives and what's in his heart and the right and the left, all we're doing is fighting and yelling back and forth, jake, you are all asking the question, how does the country

"new york times" reporting glenn thrush tweeted, lots of nervousness in the white house about the tripkasich urged the president to use the trip to unite the nation. >> the president is our president. we want him to be successful. people around him have to get to him to say, okay, you need to show leadership. you need to bring the country together. you're going to go to phoenix and make a speech, fine. that's your right. you can go there. he's got free speech just like the rest of us have it. but when you go, try to use that as an opportunity to say something that's going to bring people together. >> and democrats are facing major financial obstacles even as new state and national polling shows voters favor them to control congress. the real clear politics average gives democrats a nine-point lead on who they want to see in charge of congress. a strong indicator for the midterm elections. but the national committee fell even further behind the republicans in their fund raising last month. the rnc raised $10.2 million in july while the dnc raised $3.8 million. their worst month since ju

. >> your colleague at "the new york times" glenn thrush wrote about kind of a different take on what we talked about with jenna johnson in "the post" saying this gave the president a chance to unify and michael steele, i'm curious. they write here this time around is different. people around mr. trump insist the president who prefers to skim rather than delve has seldom been more engaged in any issue than with harvey. is that your read on this? >> i certainly hope so. you're seeing a much more constructive and engaged president than we have seen certainly on a number of issues. they seemed to have learned some of the lessons of health care. i don't know how much is due to new chief of staff. i don't know how much is due to the president knowing that his voters demand a win. they want something tangible for his presidency. >> and you obviously worked for house speaker john boehner. you have been through some of the instances where, you know, suddenly congress has to move quickly. i frankly, you know, i have been covering it for years. they're moving more slowly than when we were both

criticism for not calling out the white supremacists specifically and i want to put up a tweet from glenn thrush"the new york times." he said it's neither unfair or inaccurate to point out that the president has been tougher on mitch mcconnell than putin or nazis in the last 24 hours. >> and we have been through this cycle before. cycle where the president whether on the campaign trial or as president doesn't initially express the kind of condemnation that critics on both sides of the partisan divide are expecting. today, it's about the president not using the words white nationalists or white supremacists and not acknowledging the explicit racism seen on the campus of uva and today in the streets of charlottesville. this is ongoing. we are seeing pictures from earlier but there are helicopters overhead in charlottesville. protesters still milling about downto downtown. that's concerns about what will happen tonight and that's why there's a state of emergency. >> kaylee hartung said the organizer said this is not over. >> and what the president seas matters even more because it's an ongoing situ

glenn thrush from "the new york times," thank you for making time on this busy friday night. i want to read now in our breaking news coverage, this is a response to the pardon of sheriff arpaio. this is from a leading republican from the of arizona, senator jeff flake, who has been the target for taunting by president trump. he has speedy reaction to this news which is breaking, he says, "i would have preferred the president honor the judicial process and let it take its course." the implication from the senator there saying basically the president did not honor the process. joining me, arizona congressman rubin gallego. any normal time on night like this would probably be discussing the hurricane and disaster preparation. we've been covering it throughout the day and will cover it more. but all of these developments require us to discuss the arpaio pardon. your view of the pardon and whether in any way you think it was more than inappropriate but somehow an abuse. >> to begin with, it's cowardly. the president, you know, decided to use the cover of a friday evening, as well