in middleberg, they leased a place, 400 acre place called glenora, she, the owner of glenora finally terminated the lease and they built a house, called wexford. that was another house she lived in. >> what kind of trouble did that cause for you? >> well, it meant that every place there was a residence we had to reestablish security and to set up new communications that would-- white house communications agency had to do that. that caused problems. when she built the house in middleberg called wexford, we built in that house some security devices. well then they decided to rent the house for the first summer. that created a problem. but eventually she did move into the house and lived there an authority period of time. >> you found our self out in middleberg, in cape cod just with her and your other protection group, but she would-- the president wouldn't be there. how often were these two apart? it seems lie like i read a lot. >> and they were separated a lot because of his business and travelling and she want today spend a lot of time away from the white house and she did. spent a