. >> jimmy: so you're not the good witch, which i guess is glinda, right? >> michelle williams plays the good witch. and i hate her, my character. >> jimmy: not in real life. >> in real life, i love her. she's an amazing lady. >> jimmy: so you're really acting. >> i really had to pretend to hate her. and i'm the wicked witch of the east. and i hate her because she's so good. and i hate how good she is. and i want to destroy her, basically. i'm kind of like an evil dictator. but it's a disney movie, so it's fun. >> jimmy: maybe if evanora had some therapy, maybe there wouldn't have been a movie at all. >> it's not that kind of a film where you find reason i'm so >> jimmy: just mean. >> not really psychological. she's just a very cruel and manipulative and evil. she's kind of like a sociopath. but the more evil she is, the more it turns her on. she's like having fun. it feels good being bad. >> jimmy: yeah. all right. it sounds good. it sounds like a lot of fun. >> it's all fun. it's fun. it's pleasure. >> jimmy: i find that strangely erotic. i'm not sure why

this is a clip at the -- glinda is -- my power is water, mist, bubbles and i was able to make a protective bubble around my kingdom and we're about to go through. >> dave: is this a great huge fantasy with wonderful special effects and things flying and blowing around? >> it is visually stunning. >> dave: let's take a look "oz the great and powerful." >> hey! is that a wall? >> of sorts. it protects us from harm. >> dave: but we're headed straight for it. >> yes, we are! >> dave: and going very fast. how do you -- does this thing have any brakes? it's going too fast! i'm going to die! you needn't worry, wizard, it's a magic wall and all the honest soul cans pass through. >> i'm going to die! watch out! >> dave: whoa, beautiful. absolutely lovely. this is michelle williams, ladies and gentlemen. (applause) one day she plans to go to college. >> (laughs) >> dave: with dave's help. thank you so much and enjoy the academy awards for the comfort of your own home. thank you so much for being here. (applause) we'll be right back with chris o'donnell, everybody. ♪ ♪ >> dave: thank you and thank yo

and she was dressed as one of the townspeople in glinda's kingdom. just aside of being a munchkin. a little too tall. >> all of my jealous friends were sure i was a munchkin. but i'm too tall to be a munchkin. >> jimmy: isn't that always the way? too short for the nba, too tall to be a munchkin. [ laughter ] and so you don't know whether she made the cut in the movie yet? >> i'm hoping, grandma. i'm hoping. >> i got my fingers crossed. she's been in a lot of my films. she was in the robert altman film. she was in a film i directed where she played the matron of a crack den. >> jimmy: really? >> she had one line. she won't stop saying it. >> you owe me money, bob. [ applause ] >> jimmy: nicely done. i hope you're in the movie. it's going to be very disappointing if he's not in the movie. >> and she takes credit for my entire career. >> jimmy: sure, why not? by the way, she must be very proud of your art. you had a big art show in berlin last weekend. >> i did. >> jimmy: it was all your art. >> yeah. >> jimmy: it's called gay town. why is it called gay

. >> jimmy: so you're not the good witch, which i guess is glinda, right? plays the good witch. and i hate her, my character. >> jimmy: not in real life. >> in real life, i love her. she's an amazing lady. >> jimmy: so you're really acting. >> i really had to pretend to hate her. and i'm the wicked witch of the east. and i hate her because she's so good. and i hate how good she is. and i want to destroy her, basically. i'm kind of like her evil dictator. but it's a disney movie, so it's fun. >> jimmy: maybe if evanora had some therapy, maybe there wouldn't have been a movie at all. >> it's not that kind of a film where you find reason i'm so mean is because my dad was -- >> jimmy: just mean. >> not really psychological. she's just a very cruel and manipulative and evil. she's kind of like a sociopath. but the more evil she is, the more it turns her on. she's like having fun. it feels good being bad. >> jimmy: yeah. all right. it sounds good. it sounds like a lot of fun. >> it's all fun. it's fun. it's pleasure. >> jimmy: i find that strangely erotic. i'm no