for instance global warming. if we had a conversation and someone said we had three feet of snow last year, it doesn't feel to me like we could be going through global warming, or conversation on evolution where someone said it doesn't seem right to me that we could be descended from apes. those were attitudes the same group of peers were dismissive of. very much looked down their nose at stupid people who don't understand the science of these things. what was interesting to me was not that they were wrong in their opinion because i didn't know at the time whether vaccines were not connected in some, way to developmental disorders like autism. but this was how they went about making those decisions. so i naively started working on this project thinking it would be an interesting magazine story, looking at how we decide what counts as truth, some of the issues that get raised. here i am three years later. one of the oddities of book publishing and, i have had this experience before it is it is hard to convince you

dan showed a wonderful plot of global warming and co2, with and without global warming. we have to have the past as part of our story to show how the change occurs. as a hydrologist we can't do the studies without the past. what we really need to say is include the effect of global warming and not ignore the changes in the future but the past has to be there to provide the background that we build and design and project. >> lester , i think you talked a little about that. maybe you'd like to clarify that a little bit. >> well, let me start in a slightly different way. but i think it's how we get to integrating these. we have to have integrating for that there's too many silos. one sore point is getting land agencies to integrate flood issues. the concern i have of where we're trying to go is we do not have adequate tools out there. we don't have uniform assessment meants, or carbon footprints and make sure your not comparing apples to oranges so i as lot more complex than you see on the surface. in my opinion, we have these climate models and you have to bring it down to

in light of all this, we ask how should water managers best respond to the threat of global warming. my first hope is that water managers get on the front edge fight against this. your not bush administration scientists and nobody will stop you from talking about that. this panel invited us into a very unsettling way of framing the discussion those of us steeped the fight. we assume this is inevitable and we're focussing entirely on how to respond to it's impacts. this is a discussion that we absolutely must have because we're in a race against time. as we know, we're already feelg the impacts of global warming and things going to get worst before better so its the job of global managers to plan for the worst and that's what we're here to talk about today. among the issues, what impacts are we most concerned about, what adaptations are necessary and what models or in the analysis are they planning to do and what initial things do they need for future decisions. our discussion takes place against a political backdrop here in california where leaders in both parties recognized the impo

this looks at a state of the art of what's fake, real , fact or fiction about global warming. we have to make up indecisions, it may go 25 feet but some of us won't be here in 150 years. we have to know what's available to us in the next 25 years so you have to get in your mind the range of possibilities. finally the worst thing we can do and i'm a general manager of a water district, is to believe we are not going to have to build this investment because we could flip the switch and the trends we see will continue from ten to 20 years. you understand that? we're not going back to our customers and say we're going to do greenhouse emissions and do things to stop it. first of all, we don't control the whole world, we can only do what we can do and that's a lot since five percent of the world produced most of the greenhouse e mibss but there's an economic move in japan and china and their moving forward but we can look back and say, tom i heard this morning say if it goes up a foot we have to and we're going to have to start educating the customers and people we serve. it's anot

you think that there's actually well you can never see this particular storm is the product of global warming you can say we're seeing wilder and wilder weather as the temperature warms and it's not any more just scientists are saying it's the biggest insurance company in the world. green said at the end of last year that the only plausible explanation for what was going on around the planet was global warming earlier this year to about the giant swiss re insurance company of the insurers the insurance companies around the world absolutely i mean these are the people in our economy we ask to enter our lives risk for us they're telling us to take note really most of the world is starting to do so except inside the beltway of europe where we have a crew of politicians who think that because they can rewrite the tax and the lies they might also be able to write the laws of nature or that's not working out sort of the laws of physics. in fact you know speaking to that point the entire one hundred percent the entire freshman class of republicans in the house of representatives have all gone on the

it rests this on three propositions, one the interest of the states are harmed by global warming, two, these descendants as the five largest u.s. emitters of cardon dioxide are significant contributeors to it and thee, these defendants could take reasonable measures to sle their emissions. that's what discovery and trials are for but this court should not close the courthouse door to this case autothe outset. the common law action for public nuisance has been around for hundreds of years, has been adapped by courts to cover new environmental threats and there's no reason why the courts can't do the same thing here. the defendants say there are too many plaintiffs, too many potential defendants and that adjudication of the case will require the courts to soft the entire problem of global warming. but that's not so. on the plaintiff side, this is about the state. we are alleging the kind of injury to states that has been traditionally recognized by this court. their lands, their citizens, their businesses are being injured by pollution emitted in other states. >> general underwood, the

but first i want to talk about global warming for a minute here's the last thirty years you'll see feel last ten years we haven't had any warming i think that shows that the models are phony buy to try global warming is just another excuse for big government intervention by leftists audio loads it's just another way of government control you know much less then you know i'm dead set against that and certainly by human beings are not bad for the planet well that would be great if it was true unfortunately the scientific community doesn't agree as i found out when i spoke to bring the equivalent of the union of concerned scientists overwhelming vast majority absolutely it most of the scientific societies around the world national academies of sciences the intergovernmental panel on climate change all the leading experts of the world they get together and make scientific statements about climate change they all agree the climate change is real it's unequivocal and they're very worried about the lack of action on the parts of weaning ourselves off of fossil fuel these guys have been able to

there's no way canada can meet its global warming commitments with the tar sands.any claim the canadians have ever had to being green and greener than the us, which i think they'd like to believe... the tar sands, you know, throws out the window. but, look, oil is $90 a barrel. so the tar sands are incredibly profitable. you can't do it in an environmentally responsible fashion, but at $90 a barrel, everything looks good. >> these companies don't exist to be morally upstanding, although they would certainly tell you they want to be. they exist to make money for their shareholders. they will respond to the signals with which they're presented in the market. and i think, at the end of the day, exxon hasn't had market signals to shift away from oil. >> smith: in this election year, the political signals have been very clear. it's the high price of oil, not climate change or renewable energy, that's on most people's minds. >> drill, baby, drill. ( laughs ) drill, baby, drill. >> drill, baby, drill. drill, baby, drill. drill, baby, drill. drill, baby, drill. >> smith: t

right well we we we need to realize the the global warming we're in right now in the ocean acidification is just the opening chapter to a much longer story and maybe it helps to describe the graph that really caught my attention for this if you sort of look at the next hundred thousand years it's basically realizing that carbon dioxide emissions are eventually going to have to level off and then reverse and what that will produce is a build up of greenhouse gases and a rise of temperature that we're familiar with now but if if you go beyond twenty one hundred eighty which is kind of the limit of how most of us have been thinking you'll see that over the next some time in the next few centuries the temperature is going to go up and then it's going to lose momentum as we stop emitting so much c o two the carbon dioxide is going to go up and then start coming down and so will the temperatures so there will be a period in a few centuries from now when we have this reversal time that i'm calling the climate whiplash period which will be any every bit as stressful as the warming itself because

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the next couple days we're going to tackle very tough issues, the issues of global warming, issues of waste water, hydropower, the electric power in the city and i'm very proud that california is leading the nation in those efforts. we're leading the nation with our u.s. senator barbara boxer, who chairs the most powerful committee of the environment and public works; our governor, arnold schwarzenegger, who is a leader in reducing green house emissions, and our legislator don perada and gerald huffman who you will hear from later on in the program, and of course our mayor, gavin newsom. gavin newsom has been a leader of the environment before it was the sexy thing to do. he has been responsible for putting solar power at moscone center; responsible for putting power at san francisco international airport; responsible for putting solar power at the waste water facility in the bayview hunter's point. he will be responsible for putting power on our libraries, on our schools, and everywhere possible in the city and county of san francisco. we're very fortunate that this mayor has been th

one of the most publicized impacts of global warming is a predicted increase in sea level. and here's a graph showing sea level rise in san francisco bay. now, i want to note one very important fact about this graph. it does not show predicted sea level rise. it shows how much the level of the bay has risen over the past century. since 1900, the bay waters have risen 7 inches. and we at bcdc have been monitoring this increase for decades and we have been especially concerned because ground elevation, particularly in the south bay, is sinking because of ground water extraction. so even if there's no sea level rise, we expect more flooding as the low-lying areas continue to sink. therefore, over 20 years ago we published a report warning of a dangerous sea level rise in the bay area and the predictions that we made then have shown, unfortunately, to be pretty accurate. it's happening. so, for us in the bay area, reports about sea level rise don't belong in the science prediction section of the library. they belong over in the history section. it's happening here. the same cal

dozens of hearings on climate change, global warming. and all of those issues. the bill before us, if the rule passes, does not change the clean air act. it does not gut the clean air act. it does not in any way prevent enforcement of the criteria pollutants that are regulated by the clean air act. it simply says that greenhouse gases are not to be regulated under the clean air act. and the reason that it says that is that greenhouse gases are different than the criteria pollutants that are regulated under the clean air act. first of all, greenhouse gas is by definition are necessary for life. as i stand here, madam speaker, and speak, i am creating as i breathe in and out through the respiratory process co-2, so under the dictates of today's e.p.a., i am a mobile source polluter because i am breathing, i am creating co-2. co-2, carbon dioxide, is necessary for life. greenhouse gases are necessary to protect the environment. they have the ability to prevent heat from escaping into the -- into outer space, and that is what creates the temperature zone that allows

there's a problem with using the term global warming. you can bet after the snowstorm tomorrow, they are going to say al gore was wrong because it snowed. a better term, more accurate would be climate chaos. because you have chaotic patterns. we should all use the term climate chaos. >> okay. you heard it here first. thank you. sir? >> thank you. your talk reminds me of the books, "triumph for conservative ism" is one. it looks at crowley and louis herbertmeyer came out. i think crowley's book was revisionist, thinking of regulation as the reestablishment of the status quo. do you think that's why we have so much problem with so much anti-intellectualism. it's easy to take advantage of the simple media with the complexity that we have here. i'm going to go back and read kirkland's book again, i think after listening to you. and the committee for industrial relations, some of the interacting relationship on the book on the documents of american history. >> i take your point. but one reason why i wrote the book, i'm proud of only doing it

this is why the issue of global warming and sea level rise has been seen as an environmental justice issue internationally and nationally from the very beginning by some people who are thinking about the social implications of all of this as well. because we're not just talking about some abstract way of assigning dollars to a particular geographic area, we're talking about neighborhoods and people that will be sacrificed or at least not receive the same level of attention as others will. and in the urban areas where we tend to have the greatest extremes of wealth and poverty and of neighborhoods that are -- facilities that are absolutely -- that absolutely must be protected at all costs versus areas that are more marginal, this is going to become a very contentious area for debate at the political level. similarly, when we talk about the amounts of money that are going to be invested don't sound maybe that huge right now, but an on-going and going forward basis they are gigantic investments that we are talking about and those are not necessarily the glamorous investments to be makin

its attention by many many scientists but even if you don't believe that and you believe that global warming is happening it's happening more quickly than it's ever happened before and can leave it at that even the consequences of you know that's not for dispute because of the consequences of climate change things like changes in rain change their harvest changes in weather. all those pieces are actually the things on the ground that people are dealing with that farmers. deal with it that's what that's what the folks little south who are fighting poverty in their own communities are dealing with so yes i think the impacts of climate change are very very immediate and very much on people's minds and are connected to the larger issue of big things are changing here we understand the big things that change it's not just climate change and it's also the solutions to climate change as you pointed out so for example i think you really i think you're right when the world bank or anyone comes in and says a solution to climate change should be hydro we can make large dams all over the world that will

i would touch on briefly from this mornings presentation, and that's utility reaction verses global warming and we're fairly pragmatic, we look upon them as challenges and things we have to man for and not apart san issue. we looked at climate changes in 1990 at met when we looked through the previous drought and we had board workshops on the implications for the future. we repeatd the exercise a decade later and had panel come and talk to boards and a number of experts came and we adopted a number of policies on how to start planning for global warming. it was pragmatic and the policies were adopted unanimously. i or my agency runs the gamut in terms of political areas. very liberal areas like santa monica to quite conservative to parts of orange county and several areas throughout our entire service area. it was never partisan but what we need to do as an issue. i find it interesting this is interesting but in utilities issues, it's more how are you prepared. we tend to get our water - we're lucky because we have a diversified water supply. four major sources in southern california and be

he used the metaphor for a different story, but we're back in a similar problem with the global warming solutions act where the rules will substantially change and one of the primary components of that is looking very specifically at what are the emissions across the state? what are our baseline conditions? as we come up with messages for the public, i think one of the ways the public will - if they see we're really making a good faith effort and not just having a marketing campaign, so i think if water manager's along with others can coming to and urge new regulations that help us actually quantify our water use and savings in verifiable ways, the public will respond and say, it really looks like you all are making the effort and i can clearly see through the numbers that it's happening. and i think one of the primary components of that is moving past talking about conservation as demand hardening and instead talking about conservation as creating a new demand. i was fascinated to talk with chuck clark yesterday and the chart of all those predictions. a couple years back a new one come

. >>> global warming, god and the devil. charles manson breaking his silence. what he admits about himself in his first interview in 20 years. >>> neighbors are mourning the loss of a santa cruz icon. what happened to lucy the goose. >>> we'll enjoy plenty of sunshine today but we do have another system in store. you can see these clouds sitting off the coast making their approach to the california coast. i'll let you know when exactly that rain is going to hit the bay area in just a bit. ,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,, his silence. th e a rambling >>> after 20 years convicted murderer and cult leader charles manson is breaking his silence. the 76-year-old recently gave a rambling interview to "vanity fair" magazine in spain. speaking in both spanish and english, he talked about global warming, urging immediate changes to prevent the polar ice caps from melting. during his time behind bars, manson has become an environmental advocate. he also criticized president obama and talked about god and the devil and manson admitted he was a mean guy. manson has been silent since the

i watched the news last night and another senator was really claiming on the debate on global warming, gee, i think you're saying it's profitable for the green industries now and i'm thinking, of course it needs to be profitable and really the fossil fuel and oil industries that are making hundreds more times more profit and that's what drives this. if we could internalize externalities and middest oil and regardless of your political leaning if you or we could internalize that that's what it takes to drive the point home to the public. people don't see the profitibility of it. the profitibility of it if they see it, it could achieve it. it's an inconvenient truthfulness. it's rather from your gut than based on facts. well, because i have a vested interest, without saying so, this is my opinion. that comes from a high level as far as kind of covering up the truth and talking what we want to be rather than what we see. that and the others might be a good point of view. >> thank you. i will go back to a panelist now. brad? if i can get your comment? >> you know, i'm interest in the fede

environmental groups say today's case could make all the difference in the fight against global warming. >> why are we suing the five biggest power companies? because that's where the carbon pollution is. >> ifill: director of climate policy at the natural resources defense council has joined six states, the city of new york, and three land trusts to force five of the nation's largest electric companies to cut their emissions. the utilities own or operate 174 fossil-burning power plants in 20 states. together, the states say they produce 650 million tons of carbon dioxide emissions a year. but the energy companies say they have been unfairly targeted. ed homer represents the industry's largest trade group. >> we do think it's unfair. we think it's inappropriate. i mean, if you're going to try to solve the problem, you know to do it comprehensively. you really have no real impact if you just pick and choose a couple of emiters and ignore everybody else. >> ifill: the lawsuit originally filed in 2004 argues that carbon diide- driven global warming has eroded beach fronts, caused stronger

. >> i suspect we are experiencing global warming and impacts of global warming. but any gitch storm event doesn't prove that. we have to wait for the next several years. >> what the doctor was talking about the difference between weather and climate. weather is is short term and weather is long term . it what we saw yesterday will require another 75 years of record-keeping. >> the red cross is taking care of the most disaster victims it had to deal with since hurricane katrina. you can help by going to 1-800-red cross. go to abc 7 news.comand click on seen on tv. >> 130,000 people continue to live in temporary shelters senweeks after the devastating earthquake and tsunami there. emperor and empress bowed to the victims in sendai today. it is believed that be will i victims died. some may never be found because the tsunami swept them out to sea. >> they visited survivors in fukushima. engineering will begin to deactivate the contaminated water in the fukushima power plant next month. >> a teen of researchers went to japan to study the quake and tsunami that happen

calculation if you get rid of cow burps, the spire equation would balance out and there's no global warming anymore. is vegetarianism the answer? [laughter] >> lawrence, you're the scientist on the panel. >> it's actually a good point. methane emission from livestock is significant in greenhouse gas, but unfortunately killing the livestock does not eradicate the problem, but it is a significant term. where vegetarianism comes into play though is that it takes an order of magnitude more biomass to produce roughly 100 kilograms of biomass in plant form to produce a few kilograms of meat. it's highly inefficient, and of course along with that comes much larger consumption of energy to consume the food in the first place. i think vegetarianism is efficient in curbing greenhouse gases by curbing food production to people in addition to the methane gas you referred to. >> is there an estimate if we all became vegetarians how much climate change that prevents or how much greenhouse gases a year that curbs? >> i haven't seen the global study, but regional studies have been done. it is a significant

s global warming rules will cause global emissions to increase as u.s. manufacturing and industry goes to countries with much less stringent environmental laws. i urge my colleagues to vote no on this amendment. i yield back the balance of my time to the gentleman from georgia. the chair: the gentleman will reserve the balance of his time. the gentleman from illinois. mr. quigley: thank you, again, madam chairman. i guess my response to this, with all due respect, prove me wrong. if there's no health care risk, let the g.a.o., independent analysis, prove us wrong, but there's a lot at stake here. and i would defy anyone to say that greenhouse gases are not in and of themselves put aside global warming, dangerous because many are the precursor to ozone. i live in chicago which is the morbidity and mortality capital of the united states for those inflicted with asthma and there is a dramatic and direct impact of what ozone does to those people suffering from asthma. so prove me wrong. show me how we're wrong on this. let there be a study which goes to this

. >> we spoke with the meteorologist professor who said a single extreme storm is a sign of global warmingwe are experiencing global warming and some of the given storm event doesn't prove that. >> frequency of storms would. we have to wait for the next several years. >> weather conditions in the south created a perfect environment for all of the thorn tornados to form. >> pencer christians joins us. >>> and we have a skinny lines on live doppler hd and thunderstorms are pushing off shore right now x. last of the tornado watches for eastern north carolina and virge expired but there were tornados reported up to nine of them and far, far fewer than yesterday and the storms generally have been less severe . still dangerous weather and winding down right now. by tomorrow. weather conditions will have returned to normal but not normal for the countless people who lostt loved ones in the last several days. >> today we had windy conditions and the winds are strong. we had gusts up to 36 x. all around the area right now. wines are strong and temperature readings are these. in the bay near the coa

20 republican senate candidates who ran for office in 2010, 19 denied the reality of man-made global warming. okay, so those are problematic issues and we can talk more about them in a the question and answer if you would like it if you take a look at the financial reform issue, the president had the wind at his back and every imaginable respect. we have just gone through a terrible crisis that had cost us thousands and thousands of jobs, cost hundreds of thousands of people their homes, maybe millions, i don't know, a lot of people. cost people their homes. the stock market had lost roughly a third of its value. the housing bubble alone accounted for 9% of gdp. and so we faced this enormous crisis and the cause of the crisis is pretty clear. it was the irresponsible behavior of the banking sector particularly with regard to the housing sector but with a lot of of -- with regard to a lot of things but the fact that they were playing without any rules and understood themselves to be gambling with the houses money and when you gamble with the houses money, you gamble. it is fun. you don't have