we're joined now by cnn political commentators scott jennings and political analyst gloria borger. resident trump sent this letter to brad raffensperger, secretary of state in georgia, tell him to overturn the election results, while trump is under criminal investigation essentially in georgia for telling officials to overturn the election results. >> yeah, right. i mean, you'll recall he told raffensperger to find 11,000-plus votes for him and that's what is under investigation. it's pathological. it's -- it's hard to explain any other way. it certainly is embarrassing, particularly for those republicans who have not come out and said enough already. this is ridiculous. this is a president, a former president, who cannot admit that he lost. that is what this is all about. he still cannot say that he lost the election, and, you know, you talk about the woodward book, and in the woodward book there's lots of stuff in there about republicans, you know, like lindsey graham looking at the evidence and saying this is ridiculous, and here you have the former president still writing a lett

. >>> perspective now from cnn political director david chalian, and cnn political analyst gloria borger. gloria, you heard senator sanders saying this should go down tomorrow if there is not another deal. >> yeah, it really seems to me that progressives are not kidding around when they say we're ready to kill the infrastructure bill. which bernie sanders admits he voted for. and lots of progressives like and democrats like and is very popular in the country because they believe that that would guarantee that they only get half a loaf. and they want the whole thing. the issue is that failure to get even part of the other package seems almost so irrational, given everything that's in it that as bernie sanders just pointed out, so important to the american people. it's hard to see how they just say, okay, fine, we're not going to do any of that because they promised they would. and because the public wants a lot of it. they want lower prescription drug costs. they want better health care. so it seems to me that, you know, the process is so difficult that it's hard to see from here to there

and gloria borger. so, gloria, i want to start with this news in "the new york times."es it say that according to this reporting, trump campaign officials knew and they knew early on that these claims that were being made were baseless? yet, they sat silent as these lawyers were going out and spouting them in public. >> well, they were part of the scam. that's what it says. they didn't want to take that up to the boss probably. we don't know whether trump knew or didn't know about this. but -- but they knew what he wanted. he wanted to get re-elected whether he had to steal the election or not. and so, you had rudy giuliani out there at four seasons landscaping and everything else. and they sat there. there was somebody in the communications department who said you need to tell me, guys, is this true? or is this not true? and um, then a memo came back saying, no, had stuff is a load of garbage. and instead of saying, you know, we got to temper this or you can't say that or you can't let giuliani out there saying this. it didn't matter. the president believed it. he want

. >>> let's talk about this more now with our chief political analyst gloria borger. timing here, because she said if, if there is a vote today. a few times. and talking about maybe this is in two weeks, three weeks. >> it was supposed to be the day of reckoning, except it looks like it is probably not going to be the day of reckoning. jennifer granholm was -- tried to be obtuse about that. but she really was pretty clear. >> she was. >> she was sort of, like, well, maybe, maybe when we, you know, down the road or -- so it seems to me that nancy pelosi, when she said hour by hour, meant hour by hour, and she is not going to bring something to the floor that isn't going to pass and the progressives are not budging, and joe manchin is not budgin kirsten cinema is in the budging and they're trying to figure out how to do this and get out of each other's way, which is exactly what they're doing. >> the point she's making is it is going to happen, so when it happens it doesn't really matter. when you're looking at passing huge legislation like this, you want a bird in the

. >>> for more, let's bring in cnn chief political analyst, gloria borger.hey announced today this framework to pay for whichever legislation comes. >> whatever that is. >> maybe that would be more impressive if they knew what they were paying for and exactly how much they were going to spend. and now we hear that sinema and manchin don't know what they're talking about. >> right. i mean, they announced a framework but don't tell you what the framework is. i think the framework is somewhere between 1 and $3 trillion, maybe that's it. i have no idea. look, they all know that they sink or swim together. they all know that this could conceivably be the beginning of the end of biden's presidency if none of this gets done. and also, they all know that in 2022, if they don't prove that they can govern as democrats, what kind of turnout will they have at the polls? seems to me very little turnout because a lot of the things that are included in these bills, infrastructure being one of them, and the infrastructure bill, but when you look at child care, healthcare, p

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let's bring in chief political analyst gloria borger and jeffrey toobin. what did you hear and what did you think? >> i thought it was a very convincing explanation of what's wrong with the law. it was less convincing as a legal case. i think this is going to be a very difficult lawsuit for the administration to win. >> why? >> starting with the question of standing. you know, you can't just file a lawsuit because you don't like a law. the issue of do you have the injury in fact, how has the federal government been injured? you notice that attorney general garland mentioned several federal agencies he said were affected. i think the defendants in this case are going to say the injury, if there is any injury to those federal agencies, is too small and insignificant to merit the filing of a lawsuit. that's going to be a big challenge in this case. but the fact that the federal government is in this case is a big deal, and the justice department is doing what it can. the question is whether or not the courts will agree, and i think that's very much an open qu

i want to bring in cnn's gloria borger and also dr.illiam schaffner, a professor at vanderbilt university medical center. let's take a step back and acknowledge the world that we're in. about 25, 26% of eligible adults in this country are not getting vaccinated. they are swaying in an array of misinformation and media. it's understandable how frustrated president biden seemed yesterday. it's understandable. it's not even the first time we've heard a politician express that. this is governor kay ivey of alabama when she said it's time to start blaming unvaccinated folks. it was actually the biden white house that took a different tone. this is a couple months ago. take a listen. >> well, i don't think our role is to place blame. >> is that a sign that perhaps the federal government should step in and issue mandates? and if not, are you putting the needs of unvaccinated people ahead of the needs of vaccinated people? >> i think the question here, one that's not the role of the federal government, that is the role that institutions, priva

absolutely. >> gloria borger, david axelrod, thank you both very much. you can listen to the full conversation between david and monica lewinsky in an all new episode of the cnn podcast "the ax files". >>> it's very busy day here. we want to go right to the negotiations on capitol hill, congresswoman barbara lee joins me. thank you for your patience, really appreciate it. know how busy you are today. okay, where are you? because the latest thing that we've heard is that senator manchin has now given some details ability what he's looking for in terms of the reconciliation bill. let me just put it up for everybody. he wants the top line number to be 1.5 trillion. i know the progressives want 3.5 trillion. he wants to begin debate october 1st. in other words doesn't feel the need for the deadline today, and he wants to block any funds from the bill being used until the covid relief funds are exhausted. has that mutuaoved the needle f your side at all? >> let me just say, first of all, thank you for having me. and remember now, we started with our original

and cnn chief political analyst, gloria borger.sident biden ran on the promise he would end the pandemic. clearly, hasn't happened. obviously, afghanistan did not go the way he wanted or anticipated perhaps. how critical a moment is this for him? >> this is the essential moment. this is sort of the point at which it's the proving ground. all the things that's been talking about as a candidate and now in the early months of his -- of his presidency are really coming to a head. and, you know, they are working, after all, on this speech that he is going to give tomorrow about covid. you know, they are working on this even late tonight because the details matter. and the subtleties matter and somebody who is familiar with the speech was saying to me, you are likely to hear him express a kind of wartime spirit which is an interesting phrase. it's trying to sort of regain the urgency that he had six months ago, at the beginning of this. when he put the country on what he called a wartime footing. and he is trying to remind people, you kn

so joining me now, cnn's chief political analyst gloria borger, a team tonight, viewers. a team. gloria, i'm starting with you. progressive democrats are furious over the house speaker's plan to hold a thursday vote on the bill decoupling it from the larger spending bill. is biden going to be able to get this done? >> he's got to be able to get something done, don. i don't know what the size is going to be. it's not going to be $3.5 trillion if i had to guess it will be 2 or under and then an infrastructure plan. you know, this is a governing moment for the democratic party. they have control of washington. the white house, the house, the senate, yeah, there are slim majorities but they have to show the american public they can govern and i know that progressives want to deliver everything while at once and moderates don't and there is a lot of tension there and a lot of friction there because they're saying okay senator krysten sinema, tolell us what u want. there is not a lot of conversation going on there. joe mansion gets invited to the white house. kyrsten sinema gets invited

joining us now, gloria borger and elie honig. he served as u.s. district attorney for the southern district of new york. gloria, "the new york times" story that mary trump provided the material for in terms of tax documents was in 2018. why now is former president trump suing her and the journalist? >> well, i think the president doesn't need enemies and so the en enemies are the media, the press. he hinted there's going to be more. someone on his team hinted there will be more of this against the so-called fake news. so he took on "the new york times." it seems to me, and i'm not the lawyer here, but it's frivolous. it's what donald trump does. he likes to throw out lawsuits all the time. and to keep himself front and center. when we figures he's not front and center in the way he wants to be, as in this case, he sees himself as the victim here, he'll do it. and he'll do it more and he'll do whatever he has to do to keep himself out there even with things as ridiculous as this. >> suing for $100 million. elie -- >> why not. >> pick a number. $100

jeff zeleny is back, as well as gloria borger is here with us. is there a all-or-nothing moment? >> the democratic party controls the white house, the senate and the house, and they have to find a way to get to this, or the country will not believe they're a governing body. joe biden, when he was running for the presidency, promised a lot of things. one of the things he promised is i can get things done for you, because i'm going to prove that democracy can work for the american people. this, for better or worse, incorporates a lot of his vision. now he has to get everyone together and say, what are we going to leave out of this vision at this particular point, so we can get something through the congress. he knows he won't have republican help, everybody understands that, but they do have something to prove here. if they fail, will democrats turn out in 2022? why would they if they're disappointed? >> well, that's an important point, ryan. obviously there's a huge divide right now among the democrats, but are they really willing to let all of this fall apart, knowing their time

also joining us our chief political analyst gloria borger and cnn's chief national affairs analyst. gloria, does anyone know how this will all unfold later tonight? >> no, and i don't even think she does. she calls all this work she's doing, these negotiations, it's my favorite quote of the day, somebody asked her what is it like, and she says "it's constant invigoration," words only nancy pelosi can speak about herding her cats up there. but it's unclear exactly what is going to occur. i talked to a moderate house democrat today who said to me that there seems to be some interest in a framework. a framework is a word we're hearing now over and over again. and ryan can speak to this, about sort of an outline about what would be in the reconciliation bill, whether that would have a certain price tag on it or not, i don't know. so honestly, the answer no your question, wonderful, is no one knows. >> that's a good answer, that's the best we have. kasie hunt, progressives say their "no" votes are solid right now. earlier this week the speaker said she would never bring a bill to the floo

chief political analyst gloria borger and joe walsh. lovely to have you both in studio this morning. gloria, first, what did you think of what was said? >> i watched it, and i thought it was historic. i thought it was stunning. i think it may be the most memorable speech he has ever given. when he spoke about, you know, "the america i know," 20 years ago, that america. clearly america is different now. i think he was talking about the elephant in the room. former presidents don't usually do that on these kind of occasions. and i think i knew what kind of audience he was going to be having and i think it's something he feels so strongly about that he had to say it. and a lot of times politicians don't do that. but the former president decide ed that he had to. >> he told the truth. >> yeah. >> and you can't do that in today's republican party. br brianna, he went where trump's republican party can't go. 9/11 was an act of terror. january 6th was an act of terror. but in today's republican party, you can't say that. you can't say biden won

i want to bring back ryan nobles into the conversation along with our chief political analyst, gloria borger. everything is on the line seemingly for president biden this week, isn't it. >> yes, i mean, this is -- if there ever were a governing moment for joe biden, this is it. i mean, it's infrastructure. it's the spending bill of, you know, 3 1/2 trillion dollars, which essentially remakes the social safety net, it's the debt ceiling, everything, wrapped into one, and i think that there's nobody at the white house. i was talking with a senior adviser last week about this. there's nobody at the white house who is down playing this at all. how important this is for joe biden. this is what he ran on. i don't think they expect over there, and phil can tell you to get everything that the president wants in this bill because he understands where joe manchin, and cinema are coming from. but this is a president who's going to try and work to get what he can through the congress, and i don't think he's in a particular rush as you heard in that sound bite today, but this isn't his first roid o rodeo

joining us our senior political commentator david axelrod and gloria borger.as this more stick, less carrot for president biden today? how effective was it politically speaking. >> there wasn't a lot of carrot there, wolf. and it went from stick to tree trunk. he threw everything about it. he's frustrated. and you could see when he said our patience is wearing thin. a lot of folks who are against any kind of mandates are going to be offended by that, and they know it over at the white house, but this was a dramatic speech given by a president who believes it is his duty to protect the american people. and, so, he has been criticized, and i think rightly so, for being unclear about what he was going to do because of the delta variant and what needs to be done in business, and you have heard him say business needs to do more, and now he's saying business has to do more. so i think he came out and said, okay, here are my six steps. will everyone listen to him? will people who are the 25% who are committed to not taking the vaccine change their minds? probably not

gloria borger if the biden white house did that it would surprise a lot of people because usually joeand traditionally quite often white houses stick up for this principle of executive privilege because they know if they doesn't it could ultimately come back to bite them. >> sure. you. >> look at recent history. i mean, this white house said to two former justice department officials you can testify about your conversations with the white house regarding the election and they did. so it gives you kind of an indication of where this white house is at this point. >> you mean the biden white house said that about trump white house officials. >> right. trump administration officials. so they said go ahead and testify. this is a former president. this involves potential wrongdoing. there is precedent as you just spoke of with richard nixon and his tapes. and i think this is a matter of history. people want to know what this former president was doing in the days leading up to the insurrection. what was he doing that day. what conversations was he having. this is really important. they've d

axelrod, former senior advisor to president obama, so does van jones and chief political analyst gloria borgeryour biggest takeaway from the exit polls? >> well, look, gavin newsom made a bet here and he made this a referendum on his covid policies. everything going into this suggests in polling that that is a winning formula for him. it was going to be a referendum on him and his general performance. he's focused on this. so, listen, it would not be a surprise if this recall loses. they're 2-1 democratic edge in the state, more than 2-1 edge on spending on his side. biden carried the state by 29 points. but the manner and the margin are what people are going to be watching because democrats all over the country are going to say is there something we can learn as we enter the '22 cycle. and i think a lot of it will be around this issue of how they treated the covid issue. >> gloria? >> it's an issue that has shifted because before the delta variant -- >> yes. >> -- he was in trouble. >> yes. because people thought he was too draconian. that's why you got the recall in the first place. >> he's

. >>> so i want to go to gloria borger our chief political analyst. i want to ask you something that the democratic nominee from new york said but first, president biden, the context here coming to do this. he had a rough month political fallout from afghanistan, the surge in covid and of ybviously going to the south and coming to the metro and going to california and talk able climate. did he make a dent at all today in shifting the focus back dom domestically? >> it's hard to say so quickly. the old political addage is never let a political crisis go to waste. mr. adams talked about it. you saw the streets of new york. you heard the people. and you heard the president of the united states say this is code red if people don't want to pay attention to it, that's fine but here is what we need to do. we heard during the campaign biden talking about build back better. today he was talking about we have to build back differently because we don't want to confront these same problems down the road because we know that they will reoccur and i think that's th