we'll tell gloria gainor that. i agree with you that there is a lack of opportunity for people under the age of 23. i agree with you on that. and do you propose that this meeting between the youth commission and our commission will serve to in some way set some criteria to establish venues for people under the age of 21, primarily? is that what you think? is that your goal. >> i'm sorry, say that again? vice chair joseph: in your goal of having a joint meeting, your goal is to address the fact that there is not enough youth spaces? >> correct. vice chair joseph: and how to correct that possibly? >> and that there has been in particular -- i hate to use the word discrimination against electronic dance music events, but there's been a serious decline in the city's support for those types of events. and they're the number one event that young people want to go to. the main demographic if you go to these events is 18, 20, 21, 22, 23-year-olds. this is a big thing for a lot of people, young adults, who can vote and go t