from gloria steinem spin and gloria steinem is here. [applause] >> another of our masters, yes. >> i'm not going to cry. [laughter] but i -- oh, my gosh. i just wanted to find out from you ladies, at what -- i know god has given me permission because everything i stopped, i almost didn't make it here tonight. he said keep going. i was looking for permission in other people. but i wanted to ask you ladies want events in your lives got you to stop seeking permission from others? spent hours? hours? alice? i stopped being a lady -- [laughter] actual i never was a lady. [laughter] and actually i have a little bit of history to that. in the south the white women were the ladies and black women were women. and i actually prefer to be a woman. so i prefer to be a woman, not a lady. and i don't believe any god necessarily has to be key. -- he. i know for many people that is deeply embedded, you know? but i really feel that unless you liberate yourself from what you have inherited, you know, as truth and a religious or spiritual sense. and tell

been a young woman in the 970s -- 1970s might have marched down fifth avenue hand in hand with gloria steinem demonstrating with her flamboyant style, the intellectual equality of women. west would outlive thompson by 22 years, dying in 1983 at the age of 90. having written 30 books and hundreds of columns and essays. and so i offer a portrait of two extraordinary women who made tragic errors in judgment that shattered their personal lives even as they soared to fame. tragic errors. the decisions women make in the course of their, of fulfilling their lives as professionals have always been my interest. i write to learn, to understand the flow of history and the perm perm -- personal and political machinations of individuals as they seek the steer, harness or merely survive the force of its current. of one thing i'm certain: the dilemma of a gifted and ambitious woman remains the same. today more than ever as women become increasingly educated and are expected to follow a professional path, the dangers abide. and i believe that the lives of these two pioneering women offer insight into this ag

even gloria steinem. >> yes she is here. [applause] >> oh my. i just wanted to find out from you ladies, i know god has given me permission because everything everything -- i almost didn't make it here tonight and he said keep going. i was looking for permission from other people but i wanted to ask you ladies, what events in your lives got you to stop seeking permission from others? >> alice, alice, alice. >> i stopped being a lady. [applause] actually i never was a lady. [laughter] and i will add a little bit of history to that. in the south the white women with the ladies and the black women were women and i actually preferred to be a woman. i preferred to be a woman, not a lady and i don't believe in a god necessarily has to be he. and so i know for many people, it was deeply embedded, but i really feel that unless you liberate yourself from what you have inherited, you know as truth, in a religious or spiritual sense, until you liberate yourself you cannot really connect with what is actually here. there's a reason why the programming has b

hillary rodham clinton, and landers, gloria steinem, mariah carey, we could go on for days this way. debbie reynolds, my grandmother, my mother, me. we are all a legacy. here we are looking back 100 years, which is quite fitting. not a lot of organizations me get to 100 years. 100 years is truly worthy of celebration. we are looking back at this remarkable woman whose life choices and stories went into the making of this organization that means so much to so many people and what i find amazing is i know if we could bring her out right now she lives in the past, let's look at the future, but to get the girls among us, the future of girl scouting. thank you very much for your time. [applause] the best part of every new program is the questions. so let's hear the questions. >> first i want to thank you for doing this. i was very impressed when you showed the picture it really struck home that girl scouts know who she is and other people don't. thank you very much. where did you get all the pictures? they are wonderful. >> the pictures of juliette low are scattered. the library of congre

hillary rodham clinton, and landers, gloria steinem, mariah carey, we could go on for days this way. debbie reynolds, my grandmother, my mother, me. we are all a legacy. here we are looking back 100 years, which is quite fitting. not a lot of organizations me get to 100 years. 100 years is truly worthy of celebration. we are looking back at this remarkable woman whose life choices and stories went into the making of this organization that means so much to so many people and what i find amazing is i know if we could bring her out right now she lives in the past, let's look at the future, but to get the girls among us, the future of girl scouting. thank you very much for your time. [applause] the best part of every new program is the questions. so let's hear the questions. >> first i want to thank you for doing this. i was very impressed when you showed the picture it really struck home that girl scouts know who she is and other people don't. thank you very much. where did you get all the pictures? they are wonderful. >> the pictures of juliette low are scattered. the library of congre

hillary rodham clinton, and landers, gloria steinem, mariah carey, we could go on for days this way. debbie reynolds, my grandmother, my mother, me. we are all a legacy. here we are looking back 100 years, which is quite fitting. not a lot of organizations me get to 100 years. 100 years is truly worthy of celebration. we are looking back at this remarkable woman whose life choices and stories went into the making of this organization that means so much to so many people and what i find amazing is i know if we could bring her out right now she lives in the past, let's look at the future, but to get the girls among us, the future of girl scouting. thank you very much for your time. [applause] the best part of every new program is the questions. so let's hear the questions. >> first i want to thank you for doing this. i was very impressed when you showed the picture it really struck home that girl scouts know who she is and other people don't. thank you very much. where did you get all the pictures? they are wonderful. >> the pictures of juliette low are scattered. the library of congre

i thought we were going to talk about gloria steinem, or i thought we were going to talk about some sexistig that we can start harassing. and i think my point is that, um, you know, so many of the professors that i had i appreciated the fact that their politics were not part of the curriculum. c-span: you say that in 1994 that there was, they could not restrict the age, well, at which you had to retire. i mean, we used to have to retire in this country at 65. it was originally passed back in the 80s schools got to, what, '94 when -- >> guest: yeah. c-span: what has that done to the universities? >> guest: well, it's exacerbated the tenure problem. in fact, many people who say to me why get rid of tenure, why not just reinstitute mandatory retirement? what you have on campus now is a lot of aging baby boomer professors who are not really doing their job very well, and they're just kind of waiting until their 401(k) gets big enough that they feel comfortable retiring, and every time the market takes a hit they're like, ah, just one more year, i'll stick it out. so it's a problem, and i certa