on a different task, officials announced is a book by gloria steinem, feminists, the founderr of ms. magazine and also to get a lot of attention. finally, any given thing is a new book from space a shift to a previously written a biography of cleopatra that up into different myths. her new book will be out of place in october and it's about the same witch trials. she will uncover a whole mess of new details that would change the way that we think about the 1692 trials enough people reacted at the time, and how that might still be the lessons that we need to learn from what happened then to what is happening now. very public shaming happy and vibrant. >> you don't just cover the publishing industry but you're part of it. you are an author of a forthcoming book. can you tell us about that? >> in september i will be publishing a collection that i'm editing for the library of america. it's called women crime writers. each volume one of four novels. the first is of course 1940s novel, the second in 1950s novels but as is the case with the anthology i edited a couple years ago will include

. >> gloria steinem had been a writer at "the new york herald tribune."g figure who had a great way of translating the ideas of feminism to the mass marketplace. and she and a bunch of her friends began "ms." magazine. >> all revolutions it seems start with a typewriter and three crowded rooms over a bar. and the new york headquarters of the magazine "ms." is no different. it's a magazine designed to serve as a forum for the women's movement. >> the movement itself comes out of telling the truth about our lives. so it just makes sense to devote ourselves to think that women just can't find any place else. >> when she got aggressiveness from men, she handled it in a gracious type of way. she knew how to do the tango with men. >> in view of the fact that men are virtually controlled and dominated by women from birth to puberty and often beyond that, why haven't you done a better job, if you're as smart as you say you are? >> well, that's your statement, not mine, that men are virtually controlled by women from birth onward. i mean, if you take an intelligen

led by gloria steinem did apply a double standard to bill clinton's behavior because he was a democrat supported abortion rights and, therefore, it didn't matter what his personal behavior was. camille goes on to say, quote: hillary has a lot to answer for because she took an antagonistic and demeaning position towards her husband's accusers. a former bill clinton campaign strategist, hank shrinekaft is here with me. she to do by her man, is this going to come back to haunt her. >> >> look, people may have some clinton fatigue. they've been on the national stage for four decades. i think camille's a great scholar. it's a little bit too much. you can't compare bill clinton to bill cosby, there's nobody drugging women and trying to rape them -- trish: but should we be talking about abuse of power? >> abuse of power is something we have legislation for in states, it's called sexual harassment -- welcome back trish do you think it's fair to bring up the past, bring up monica lewinsky? >> there is no past tense, future tense, there's only the present tense. whatever could happen isn't the m