gl gloria steinem joins me tonight. gloria, thanks so much for joining us. streets for abortion rights, you were there. you saw the supreme court legalize abortion in 1973. what was your reaction given your history to this leak? >> it seems, you know, like science fiction, to suppose, once again, that we can have democracy without allowing women to control our own physical selves. it's a throwback. obviously most states would not follow suit, but there are many places where this proposes an enormous danger to women who would then have to go out of the state or seek an illegal procedure. >> the argument that this should be left up to the states, why is that, in your opinion, wrong? >> the fundamental rights of our constitution, of freedom of speech, you know, all the fundamentals, were not spelled out in terms of reproduction because, of course, women weren't part of the constitution. but it is clear that our right to bodily integrity and to decide what happens inside ourselves is a fundamental human right. >> do you believe justice alito and others when they

both have a very different perspective on those rights, and so we have gloria steinem, a significant figure in second wave feminism coming out of the civil rights movement of the 1950's and 1960's, and here she is arguing for equal rights with women in terms of the workplace and opportunity, whereas phyllis schlafly coming out of the same iraq but a movement -- same era but a movement is to rinse with no call the new right, coming to a national consciousness in 1964 with the very cold water campaign, and here we have are arguing from a different perspective, that women grounded in their roles as mothers, in the family in a judeo-christian framework acquire all of their place in society, their status and even there equality different than men because of those differences as women. and so, within two years of each other, we have got through comparison a sense of the debate regarding the women's movement during this period. but another thing we can do when we look at these two documents is to apply contextualization. as students are probably aware, 1970 and 1972 are within the context o

gloria steinem may 6th 1970 i have been excluded from professional groups writing assignments on so-called unfeminine subjects. such as politics i have been denied a society in which women are encouraged or even allowed to think of themselves. 1972 phyllis schlafly what's wrong with equal rights for women? our respect for the family as the basic unit of society, which is ingrained in the laws and customs of our judeo-christian civilization is the greatest single achievement in the entire history of women's rights. early 70s to disparate points of view professor stacy well, first of all, let's apply some of the skills that students are going to have to use on the ap test. to these documents the first that immediately comes to mind is you notice peters comparison. immediately we can see the contrasts and even some similarities between these two documents if we start with the similarities, both of them are talking about women's rights movements of the early 1970s. both of them are talking about women in particular. however, also with comparison both have a very different perspective on those