gloria was that outsider person. she was not quite a whitney, and she was not quite a vanderbilt. ave really raised herself, but gloria are did grow up in gertrude's household, and gertrude was a serious artist, and sculpt tresz, and gloria got some of that. >> and these are paintings of mine. >> a long time ago? >> yes, way, way back, and i would love to have these in a studio. that is amazing. >> you want to take a look at this? >> yes. >> and there are piles of them. >> well, i'd like to have them all. yes. i think that we are going to need a truck to take them over. i mean, these are like when i was in the teens. >> really? >> yeah. >> what was it like at wheeler? >> it was wonderful. i was very, very happy there, and this is when i first started to really, you know, having a more sense of myself. >> these are letters fm your aunt gertrude? >> yes. the interesting ones are the ones interesting to me when i was in california are and had gone out to stay with my mother for two weeks with a chaperone called constance. ♪ >> miss vanderbilt and i have just finished. we are concludin

jumped from the terrace of the penthouse, gloria vanderbilt witnessed the suicide.s story, i don't know how many hundreds of times, exactly what happened in those final hours and minutes and seconds. but it still doesn't make sense to me. i always thought we were close. then i realized -- the fact he would kill himself in that way and i would have no indication whatsoever, tells me that in some ways we weren't that close. and i always imagined that we would become friends as adults. get through childhoods and meet up later on and reflect back on things. but -- i think my father's death was harder on carter. and i completely didn't realize that at the time. he was two years older than i was, had even more mature relationship with my dad. i do realize now how hard that would have been on him. >> carter was made for joy. but he knew from losing his father that terrible things happen. and you can't prevent them from happening. we met at princeton. you know, i had a crush on him from afar. but the spring term of my senior year, we started spending time together. then the

we didn't know each other in theory and i of course was excited because he's gloria vanderbilt's sonnd heard he was smart and great and went to yale. he was just starting out his career and was on channel 1 and he said i jesgesticulated wildl- >> rose: that didn't work for him. >> and i guess i brought up his mom way too soon in the con voe but we wound up great friends. >> rose: can you something what you would do if you hadn't done the television thing. >> part of me think i'd be a teacher. a lot of the work with the housewives is being a shrink. >> rose: andy cohen. great to have you here. continued success. >> thank you, i appreciate it. >> rose: thank you for joining us. see you next time. for more about the program and early episodes visit us online at pbs.org and charlierose.com. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. >> you're watching pbs. ♪ >>> this is "nightly business r

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award established by gloria vanderbilt in memory of her son carter cooper. >> say not of beauty she isught but beautiful. or sleek to doves wings of the wood, her wild wings of a gull. call her not wicked, that word's touch consumes her like a curse. but love her not too much too much for that is even worse. oh, she is neither good nor bad but innocent and wild, enshrine her and she dies, who had the hard heart of a child. >> what does that mean to you? >> what does it mean to you? >> what does it mean to you? >> it means to me that i had the hard heart of a child from then on. >> uh-huh. >> and that i could survive things. and i did. >>> welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm cyril vanier, "cnn newsroom." we're following a cease fire in syria. brokered by russia and turkey. some forces laying down weapons after nearly six years of war. heading live to the region in just a moment. first though russia is vowing to respond to hash u.s. sanctions, punishment for hacking in the election. including the expulsion of diplomats. >> it's over. the curtain's d