or we will see gm through on christmas eve legislation that will have the most far-reaching effects and devastating effects i think not only on our ability to provide much-needed medical care to all of our citizens, but also impact would be devastating on the debt and the deficit which we have already laid and unconscionable burden. so we really have two choices here it seems to me. go back to the beginning and enactment of the reforms he could agree on and there's many of them that we could agree on immediately. on a bipartisan fashion. and as a senator from tennessee pointed out, there has never been a fundamental reform made in the history, modern history that was not bipartisan. or we are going to see gm through over the objections of the majority of americans legislation that they've never seen nor read or understand. so that's really the choice between us. that's really what this choice is boiling down to and i think that frankly the american people should be heard, not the majority of the other side. >> people are saying don't cut my medicare, don't raise my taxes, don't make thi

guest: saab has been outside of gm for some time.rking on finding a buyer and won in dummy operations. there will be a couple thousand jobs lost their. gm tried to put the deal together as part of the bankruptcy. the buyer fell through. they were not able to find another one. a similar thing happened with saturn. an outside buyer was going to try to take over the company and keep in business. that bill through as well. there is far more capacity to build cars in the world than there are buyers to buy them. >host: the last call comes from new york. caller: do you have any snow there? how are you caller: you got any snow? >> take a look behind me. caller: my question is why do we thinkford was so much better positioned than chrysler or general motors second would be what would have occurred had gm and croiceler just gone chapter 11 as opposed to today. i'll take your answers off line. thank you. guest: first off,ford tackled a lot of this overhaul well before the credit crisis. ford used to act like four or five different companies. he

this was a deal gm troyed to put together. the buyer fell through.o build cars. >> last call comes from finger lakes new york on our line for republicans. how are you caller: you got any snow? >> take a look behind me. caller: my question is why do we thinkford was so much better positioned than chrysler or general motors second would be what would have occurred had gm and croiceler just gone chapter 11 as opposed to today. i'll take your answers off line. thank you. guest: first off,ford tackled a lot of this overhaul well before the credit crisis. ford used to act like four or five different companies. he managed to stitch those units together and make them[

this was a deal gm troyed to put together. the buyer fell through.urn. that deal fell through as well. it gos to the weakness in the auto industry. this is far more capacity to build cars. >> last call comes from finger lakes new york on our line for republicans. how are you caller: you got any snow? >> take a look behind me. caller: my question is why do we thinkford was so much better positioned than chrysler or general motors second would be what would have occurred had gm and croiceler just gone chapter 11 as opposed to today. i'll take your answers off line. thank you. guest: first off,ford tackled a lot of this overhaul well before the credit crisis. ford used to act like four or five different companies. he managed to stitch those units together and make them[

the caps would apply to american international group, citigroup, general motors, and gm's financial arm, gmac. they would not apply to chrysler and chrysler financial, because executives there made less than $500,000. bank of america was exempt after it repaid the $45 billion it owed the government. the company is an underwriter of the "newshour". and goldman sachs has repaid its rescue loans. but it said thursday its top 30 executives would not receive a cash bonus this year, despite record profits. >> -- they objected the feinberg plan will cause a brain drain. >> those employees who feel they are worth more or the market feel these are worth more could end up leaving the company where the caps are impressed weakening the company which imposes more risk, not less and in the end could hurt the ability of those companies to restore themselves and help the market. >> holman: bonuses have also been an issue in europe this week. french president nicolas sarkozy said thursday his country would follow the lead of britain. which announced a tax on bonuses awarded to bankers between now and ap

right inside your gm dealership. find out more at goodwrench.com. >> larry: jesse ventura's new show, the title of which is conspiracy theory with jesse ventura debuts wednesday night on trutv. here's a sample. >> this is the infamous hangar 17. this is a place where we've contacted on multiple, multiple occasions to go inside and see what they have inside this building. because there are remnants from september 11th in there. get up here! this is what they don't want me to see. we've tried to get in this building. we can't get in it now. the door's locked. you can see girders obviously from the 9/11 site. why won't they give us access to this building? what is the reason for it? >> larry: wow. are you going to do every week? how long is the show on, weekly? >> yes, we're weekly, one hour a night. for seven weeks we'll cover seven different modern conspiracies that go back within the last decade. we won't be covering john f. kennedy or dr. martin luther king or any of the stuff back then. we kept it to the ten-year l

the new gm wouldn't meet with him. he said the writing was on the wall to the. he had a feeling he might be gone. knocked out of bounds. foye had a tough time in a trade for brandon roy. >> phil: each team with seven fast break baskets. that was a difficult shot he had to convert. >> wizards back up by 1. around foye, haywood is there. let see if they call a foul on jefferson. it is a loose-ball foul on al jefferson. he came over haywood's back to knock that away. >> phil: you have brewer trying to go baseline. brendan is right there to help him. he has jefferson on the back, brewer, you have a brendan haywood sandwich. >> steve: that will not count -- they will call offensive foul on gilbert arenas. the first foul on gilbert. >> phil: let's see what happened here. i think the defender is moving into gilbert arenas. i don't agree with that call. >> steve: six turnovers in the second quarter for washington. flynn couldn't get it. butler trying to pull it away. he knocks it off love but he is able to hang onto not there, brewer the rebound. that's up and in. >> ph

the gm for the edmonton oilers ranking mcphee and lowe. no score after 20 minutes of play.oe and craig continuing with net star 1 intermission live. locker, what are they doing well defensively. >> craig: they are controlling the puck. they have cut down on shots against. to me that comes for puck control. when it goes d to d, if they don't have a pass, they are chipping it back to the d, using a lot of delays to control the puck which means the opposition doesn't have it a lot. >> washington threatening jeff deslauriers. surprisingly there's no score on the board after we look at the highlights after one. >> craig: they were trying to go high on this kid, jeff deslauriers. his catching glove working in the first period. fleischmann at the other end. that was the catching glove. high lanes, the caps seeing more commotion i would think against deslauriers the way he started out. they will need second and third shots. these teams in the mode of stopping the initial shot here tonight. >> joe: a little more east-west movement wouldn't hurt as well. presented by your washington

how about gm and chrysler? when they went bankrupt, allies of the administration, united auto workers, they end up with a sweetheart deal. and chrysler, 29 cents on the dollar but the united auto workers, 43 cents on the dollar and ended up owning the company. how convenient. that is what a political economy looks like. and look at individual members of congress. including the distinguished chairman of this committee from the "wall street journal" dated june 5, 2009, quote, the latest self-appointed czar is barney frank. the warehouse which employs 90 people was slated for closure by the end of the year by gm but mr. frank put in a call to gm's c.e.o. and secured a new lease on life for the facility. i respect our chairman. i'm not here to suggest -- mr. garrett: i yield the gentleman an additional one minute. mr. hensarling: i know that the distinguished chairman well wishes this and i'm not here to suggest that the activity was illegal, immoral, was even fatening. i'm here to suggest that is what a political

holding out a gm stock, talking about limits on executive compensation.he same time trying to take over a big part of health care. imposing unionization by the card check plan. these things are frightening investors and keeping businesses from growing. we have to turn that around and make it easier for people to hire. >> larry: how about running a war, two wars? >> he didn't have a choice in that regard. we were attacked on 9/11 and would had to respond. >> larry: iraq didn't attack us. >> president bush took action to make sure they wouldn't attack us and at the same time he pointed out through the surge he carried out, president bush did, that that worked. i'm glad president obama has adopted the surge strategy for afghanistan. he's made a number of miscalculati miscalculations, however. this idea that it will be solved in 18 months is hopeful but probably not likely. his plan calls for fewer troops than the general asked for. if generals came to you and said, look, we're in a tough situation, we need a minimum 40,000 troops from the u.s. to solve this

because $80 billion worth of the gm chrysler and gmac. >> i work for united autoworkers. i don't know what you are talking about. >> the solution of small-business lending which were suggesting but one thing i wanted to focus on was, as far as treasury's use of the funds going forward and how it is going to be allocated. i think that has implications, dimensions the proposals, the administrations proposals for new statutory authority for resolution and for systemic risk regime. and basically i guess the way ifq the resolution authority is really just the codification of t.a.r.p. for the years to come because the flexibility built in. we will review how the treasury has interpreted t.a.r.p. over the last year and now by the sounds of it if we are talking about job creation or whatever else is coming out from the administration. exactly what sort of uses are you going to put these funds to because you have said sort of both sides, now you want to keep some in reserve, you put some in community banks and i guess i don't really understand. >> let me start with the job creatio

host: does gm try to encourage people to preventive healthcare? have a wellness plan. i got my sugar, my sugar was checked friday at mi my job. >> as we've told you all morning the senate held together with all 60 voting in favor of the health legislation. here's the moment from the senate floor when senator harry reed the majority leader cast his vote on the legislation. mr. reid of ne+ada. aye. in washington. caller: good morning america. yes, i do appose the bill. i believe we can do better. it did not go far enough. i'm with howard dean on this. i'm an independent in the state of maryland and i had to switch over and go and stand in line switching over to the democrat switch to president barack obama and i gave - i am with howard dean on this one. they've a question though. can anybody plqpáq tell me what is the difference between what the al qaeda and bin laden group is doing with the muslin group and republican praying for "t(r)istians so people cannot g healthcare. i will do everything in my power that he cáátj back to the senate next time.

host: does gm try to encourage people to preventive healthcare?, we have a wellness plan. i got my sugar, my sugar was checked friday at mi my job. >> as we've told you all morning the senate held together with all 60 voting in favor of the health legislation. here's the moment from the senate floor when senator harry reed the majority leader cast his vote on the legislation. mr. reid of ne+ada. aye. in washington. caller: good morning america. yes, i do appose the bill. i believe we can do better. it did not go far enough. i'm with howard dean on this. i'm an independent in the state of maryland and i had to switch over and go and stand in line switching over to the democrat switch to president barack obama and i gave - i am with howard dean on this one. they've a question though. can anybody plqpáq tell me what is the difference between what the al qaeda and bin laden group is doing with the muslin group and republican praying for "t(r)istians so people cannot g healthcare. i will do everything in my power that he cáátj back to the senate next t

this would break down the details of four firms which are citigroup, a.i.g., gm, and gmac.f ané.÷&rÑzgvrl years and cash cannot make up more than 45% of total pay except for companies who can show good cause and compensation should consist of cash seller, be accessible for one year, and a bonus that could be paid in cash and stock. itñ cannot exceed $500,000 unless companies can show good cause. half of annual bonuses must be paid in stock which can be sold for three years. that is the highlight of the new pay structure scheme that will take place at citigroup, a.i.g., gm, and gmac. back to the poems, gardner, maine, are independent line. caller: i was watching earlier this morning about bank of america. they said they would pay out up to $5.8 billion. in executive bonuses. they ended up paying out-wñ $3.9 billion. k se looking further banks and looking into!#Ñ what d of fraud they are being put through. there are many people out here reduce not have any employment and bankamerica gets tarp money from the government that we have to pay into. vw4il [Ñithey got those moneysf

with gm and chrysler, let's take them apart, take the good pieces, sell them to somebody who will doto them, and sell off the pieces that don't work anymore. that is how we state growing over the long haul. but if we get saddled with inefficient firms that don't get the job done, like a state owned enterprises, not a good deal. host: our guest is bill dunkelberg, the chief economist for the national federation of independent businesses. john is joining us from hartford, tennessee, an independent line. welcome to the program. caller: thank you, steve. mr. dunkelberg, all this stuff you saying don't make no sense to use a 10% unemployment is more like 18 to 20 -- you say 10% unemployment. it is more like 18% to 20%. the u.s. bank stole $60,000 out of my lockbox and i went under. -- stole $16,000 out of my lockbox i went under. i'm glad that those people putting his chips together that you were talking about, because manufacturing has gone down. you manufacturers -- all my people that come in my store are friends of mine and they're not going to spend their money, because the big banks

next on csn. >> joe: hottest ticket in town on a friday night in vancouver inside gm place.nhl on comcast sportsnet. one and only meeting between the capitals and canucks. joe and craig with you. >> craig: two canadians facing off against each other. one of the best goalies. roberto luongo going for win number 16. a beauty between goaltenders and teams here tonight in vancouver. >> joe: been amazing the last three days. capitals got in and were able to watch roberto luongo tangle with the anaheim ducks. have had a couple of days of practice to recharge and get set an look for win number 22 in the process. first place in the southeast division. brenden morrow returning to a place where he played so very well. washington on the road in the white the opening face-off presented by our friends at papa john's. the vancouver canucks still in the midst of an eight-game home stand. they are in the blue. daniel sedin working up front to get things started. centering pass. guided away by jeff schultz. >> craig: would like a better start than against the ducks. only two shots in the fir

this is just the beginning of how we do business in america there when they refinanced gm a while back, they had an ad that was out about how they will restructured gm and how they will do things differently going forward. the health care is the beginning of how they will start doing that all of our businesses hemorrhage money to a certain set of people in this country. we are -- economically through the money. if you trace -- what they're doing, if you trace where it is going to or who it keeps to be on top that goes along those same party lines as far as you see the politicians fighting to keep the things going. expos those people for the money they are receiving and then you can get rid of the problem. host: if you go to sideburn news -- cybernews.com -- bart stupak, as as white house and leadership in house of representatives have been pressuring him not to speak out about the compromise abortion language in the senate version of the bill. this is a quote by congressman stupak -- they think i should be expressing my views until they get a chance to sell me the language. well, i don

because $80 billion worth of the gm chrysler and gmac. >> i work for united autoworkers.i don't know what you are talking about. >> the solution of small-business lending which were suggesting but one thing i wanted to focus on was, as far as treasury's use of the funds going forward and how it is going to be allocated. i think that has implications, dimensions the proposals, the administrations proposals for new statutory authority for resolution and for systemic risk regime. and basically i guess the way ifq the resolution authority is really just the codification of t.a.r.p. for the years to come because the flexibility built in. we will review how the treasury has interpreted t.a.r.p. over the last year and now by the sounds of it if we are talking about job creation or whatever else is coming out from the administration. exactly what sort of uses are you going to put these funds to because you have said sort of both sides, now you want to keep some in reserve, you put some in community banks and i guess i don't really understand. >> let me start with the job creation

when we refinanced gm a while back, there were talking about how they would restructure gm and do thingstly. the health care industry is just at the beginning of how they are going to start doing that. all of our businesses hemorrhaged money to aÑixd certn number of people in this country. whoever is on top, and then as people at the bottom. you trace where that money is going to and who is up on top, and the party lines when the city's politicians fight to see where they're going. the money that they are receiving and then you get at the root of the problem. host: thank you for the call. if you go to cns.com, there is a part about the arts to peck bart -- there is a story about bart stupak. a quote from him -- they think i should not be expressing my views on this bill until they show me the language. i do not need anyone dead tell me the language. i know what it says. i do not need to have a conference with the white house. i have the legislation in front of me. he was able to get 64 democrats to join him to attack as pro- life amendment to the health care bill. it would prohibit the f

would be, you have all kinds of we call them individual lobbying shops, like google, ford, chrysler, gmthey have their shops on k sthreet headed by someone by vice president of public affairs and if we are talking about the automobile industry, it is a two-way process. that the job of this vice president and the folks who work with him, it's to communicate detroit's views to lawmakers and at the same time, the people here, they communicate with what's going on on the hill to those folks in detroit. two-way process each dependent on the other. second kind of lobbying group, organization or entity would be the associations that i already mentioned. in terms of the telephone directory. big ones we all know, afl-cio, chamber of commerce, national association of manufacturers, american medical association, the american political scientists association. all of those and more. and if you are a small businessman or woman, you probably belong to the national independent federation of small business. i forget the exact title, but that's roughly it. what happens then? maybe you are running a small

the united auto workers here has been very -- of course, supportive of tarp. $80 billion went to the gm the united autoworkers, i don't know who you are talking about. >> i guess one thing i wanted to focus on was -- as far as treasury's use of funds going forward and how it will be allocated has implications. be allocated. i think that has implications, dimensions the proposals, the administrations proposals for new statutory authority for resolution and for systemic risk regime. and basically i guess the way ifq the resolution authority is really just the codification of t.a.r.p. for the years to come because the flexibility built in. we will review how the treasury has interpreted t.a.r.p. over the last year and now by the sounds of it if we are talking about job creation or whatever else is coming out from the administration. exactly what sort of uses are you going to put these funds to because you have said sort of both sides, now you want to keep some in reserve, you put some in community banks and i guess i don't really understand. >> let me start with the job creation question a

gm and chrysler even there the outlook too is improved and you'll see newes it mass in the report we'reissuing today. we'll continue to manage t.a.r.p. in transparent and accountable manner. erier this morning treasury published or maybe sometime today not sure it is out yet. published first annual financial statements for this program. these statements discuss in great detail the operations and impact and expected cost of the program. gao provided unqualified opinion of those statements included no material weaknesses in internal controls and this is a notable achievement for the men and women who have helped put in place this very important program in a short period of time. let me just end by emphasizing as you did the importance we continue to work to reinforce the process of repair in our financial system. it is absolutely essential to make sure we establish a strong recovery that have put americans back to work and it is very important because of the consequences kre -- kre yad by the actions necessary to put out this financial fire that congress move to adapt a strong and compreh

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statement is, you know all this stimulus money allocated should have been a stipulations on that like to, gmen they got all this money, i felt like it should have been a stipulation this there. you don't get this money if you outsourcing the jobs to foreign countries because that's hurting the united states citizens right now and that's it. have a good day. guest: thank you. i would like to comment on that from the standpoint that my views are expressed on increasing our markets of exsport from small business standpoint. all of our jobs are in texas. i think the majority of small business that are exsporting that would enter exsporting would create jobs in the united states. i just want to make the point that i don't see an outsourcing of job. more jobs created in the united states. host: jason asks, are there any chance there will be sole proprietors. big business are too close to government. what do you think about the comment. big business won't get us out of the economy because they're too close to government? guest: i think we're all going to have to pull together to get out of this. we

washington mutual get hurt and preferred shareholders of fannie mae and freddie mac and all the workers at gm have to give up staff but aig's counterparties -- >> host: not to mention all the people who lost their jobs. >> guest: somehow it was too important for goldman sachs to get less than 100 cents on the dollar or deutsche bank so there's a lot of resentment. >> host: and added to that it turned out that aig had promised bonuses to the very people who were running the operation you described as a casino and making a lot of money on this casino and a promised these bonuses and authorities once they owned the decided it was a contract and they had to pay them. but that further outraged -- a lot of people including need. >> guest: there's a lot of things to get outraged about. the only thing i would say in the defense of the people making the decisions that week is it was kind of a busy week, and i have no doubt if they had had another ten days to think about what is the best way to do the aig thing that they might have found a way to avoid some of the things that got us so angry. but this

gm and chrysler even there the outlook too is improved and you'll see newest it mass in the report we'reissuing today. we'll continue to manage t.a.r.p. in transparent and accountable manner. erier this morning treasury published or maybe sometime today not sure it is out yet. published first annual financial statements for this program. these statements discuss in great detail the operations and impact and expected cost of the program. gao provided unqualified opinion of those statements included no material weaknesses in internal controls and this is a notable achievement for the men and women who have helped put in place this very important program in a short period of time. let me just end by emphasizing as you did the importance we continue to work to reinforce the process of repair in our financial system. it is absolutely essential to make sure we establish a strong recovery that have put americans back to work and it is very important because of the consequences kre -- kre yad by the actions necessary to put out this financial fire that congress move to adapt a strong and compreh

good thing at face value, but if you tear it down you think people expecting pensions -- for instance, gmtled to $80,000 after eight years of working for a company. for instance, the state pensions nationally are 272 trillion dollars in debt. i think the unions, which i equate to the bolsheviks these days, are a problem. my question, do you comment on how the unions have bled the vampire host here in seattle -- some to -- have gone on strike 18 times in six years and bawling through in the towel, moving to south carolina and the union is so good, what now for all of your union thugs? any comment on that? guest: i would not comment on union of, sir, but i would tell you right now you would not be as safe on the back of an airplane if it were not for this union. we fight against people only want to make money and said, no, we want it safely. we were formed in 1931 and almost 60% of the founders lost their lives. our members pay a huge amount of do so we can make airline flying safer. that is what unions do for you. you may have a different take, but you know what, i think if you work for 30

. >> the person who is the third party who is the non-gm of subscriber who is part of that thread doessent the e-mail? >> no, no, no. the person who sent the e-mail has sent their e-mail to their friend. that user is not going to get any ad targeted to them. we are not point have any permission about that user id all. except for the fact that we hold their e-mail because we are the e-mail service provider for the gmail account holder, which is the same as any other web mail service. >> the real question is how that person -- that gino subscriber clearly has the ability to provide -- to protect their privacy, to opt out if they so choose. maybe some of their data is still collected but they could still opt out, but the third party that they have sent the e- mail to who then replied back to them who is contained in that thread, they do not have the same ability, but their data is subject to being searched in the same way, so how -- >> that is true, but that occurs with every web mail service. >> guy who just said that they did not do the same thing. >> every web mail service scans their

with gm and chrysler, let's take them apart, take the good pieces, sell them to somebody who will do something good to them, and sell off the pieces that don't work anymore. that is how we state growing over the long haul. but if we get saddled with inefficient firms that don't get the job done, like a state owned enterprises, not a good deal. host: our guest is bill dunkelberg, the chief economist for the national federation of independent businesses. john is joining us from hartford, tennessee, an independent line. welcome to the program. caller: thank you, steve. mr. dunkelberg, all this stuff you saying don't make no sense to use a 10% unemployment is more like 18 to 20 -- you say 10% unemployment. it is more like 18% to 20%. the u.s. bank stole $60,000 out of my lockbox and i went under. -- stole $16,000 out of my lockbox i went under. i'm glad that those people putting his chips together that you were talking about, because manufacturing has gone down. you manufacturers -- all my people that come in my store are friends of mine and they're not going to spend their money, becaus

making, but the president believed that it was important to use a portion of that might help stabilize gmand chrysler and put them on a path toward sustainability by themselves. i think that we have already seen that through recent auto sales figures that some progress is indeed being made on that. >> on the troops, all of the international troop levels in afghanistan, with very -- >> some of them. >> they come with constraints -- cat gets about no fighting in the south, no fighting at night to, no combat. are you working -- is the administration working to change that so that it is not just a few countries willing to put troops in harm's way? >> first and foremost, we are pleased by the international effort to that has no increasingly stepping up -- nato increasingly stepping up to meet international commitments. i think that what you will hear and see from commanders on the ground from our perspective is that we can now take troops and other parts of the country and focus them more on the south and east as others ancome in to fill in the north and the west. i think what you see it as a

gm's on the task force. and that is a usual day that we usually have two. snack which are those two that are on the list that i have in front of the big? >> kimberly gregory and wanda nicholson. >> and they both participated in this decision? >> kimberly gregory was on the task force when this decision was voted. wanda was not. there was another ob/gyn on the task force when this topic was voted. that was it george who is the professional ob/gyn at university of california san francisco. >> with these unanimous vote? >> no. that you both were not unanimous. >> do we know how they voted? >> i can't recall. that is in the record, and we could make that information available to the committee if that is important. >> i would like to see. i don't know if the committee will deem it important that i resort to appreciate the opportunity to see it. now, is there a radiologist in this group? >> no. no, there is no radiologist in this group. >> is that a problem? >> the expertise of this panel has been called in question. the experts are individuals who have experienc