unite, the gmb, together with the tuc, to mentionjust a few.entionjust a few. they want to play, and need to play, they're part of the easing of the lockdown, and eventually the ending, dare we say it, of the lockdown. in this letter, they won the prime minister, borisjohnson, this letter, they won the prime minister, boris johnson, that this letter, they won the prime minister, borisjohnson, that they will not recommend a return to work for their 3 million members. —— they warn the prime minister. until the government and employers agree a nationwide health and safety revolution, no less, as a result of this pandemic. 0ne revolution, no less, as a result of this pandemic. one can understand and see why they would be very, very concerned for a premature return. so, they need to sit down and hammer a nationwide agreement. interestingly, if i just a nationwide agreement. interestingly, if ijust compare my other country, france, the lockdown is due to start on monday. i don't know if that is the way the british government eventually will choose to

gmb has been clear it was important the government made the ski more flexible.y difficult situation, making sure we protect the economy but making sure we protect above all jobs and livelihoods. winnie to do this as long as possible, you said, do you potentially see it as going beyond august, september?” do you potentially see it as going beyond august, september? i do, yes. i think it's not a question as as long as necessary as possible, it's as long as necessary. it's it's really important there is nothing to be gained from effectively taking the economy at some point later on in the summer or the autumn, after all the support that's gone in, so it's vital that government continues both to listen to employers and to trade unions like gmb and to work with us to make sure we've got a comprehensive package that protects jobs. the his already huge. it is 40 billion and that is just untiljuly. does were you at all, ultimately, how actually going to pay for this —— doesn't worry you? how actually going to pay for this -- doesn't worry you? it's a question from every

the big four unions, unison, unite, the gmb, usdaw with the tuc are saying many of their members have seen bus drivers in london and they are saying they want health and safety revolution as a result this pandemic. yes, they make the point in this letter that health and safety is something that has been derided by right—wingers over the years, but we are all realising it is vitally important and it is literally a life and death matter. there was an interesting report in the guardian yesterday, saying some authorities may be liable for criminal proceedings for putting their workers on the front line with insufficient protection. that is a scandal. scandal is an overused word by journalist, but that scandal. scandal is an overused word byjournalist, but that is a scandal. when the inevitable public enquiry comes, that will be high on the agenda. why haven't we given these people, who are doing everything on our behalf, adequate protection. it is a disgrace and i have the people who have been in charge of that are made to be called to account for that. whenever this full return to work d

andy prendergast is from the gmb union which represents teaching support staff. union representative in one of these meetings that is going on with the department for education. has anything emerged from it yet? there was an earlier meeting today and there is another one going on. effectively, looking at the various scientific arguments for a return and whether we can be convinced it can be handled safely, both for the children that go to school, their families and staff. why you are particularly concerned about your staff, you represent and support staff, you represent and support staff, rather than teachers? we represent caretakers, cooks and clea ners represent caretakers, cooks and cleaners who work in the school, and they often work very closely with they often work very closely with the children. that is why we are so concerned about it. we are not concerned about it. we are not concerned about it. we are not concerned about the schools reopening, but only when it is safe to do so. when we heard the news prior to coming on air, the r number is increasing, w