is that because the badgers have moved the goalposts as well?> her government try to sort the problem by only addressing the disease in cattle. that was a terrible mistake. >> it is actually morally reprehensible what is being done in the west country to badgers. ineffective, inefficient, ignoring scientific opinion. why doesn't he resign? [laughter] speaker, he supported a government that did nothing on this. back to the policies of the government he supported -- 300- 5000 otherwise healthy cattle were hauled off to slaughter. >> the call and gloucestershire was held off with only 40% of the badger population eliminated. he doesn't matter what the evidence says. he will just simply argue that this has been a success. even by the government's own terms, it has been a catastrophic failure. shots have been fired. shots have been fired in the united kingdom over people going about their lawful business monitoring the activities of a call set up by this government. disgraceful,ling, and certainly should be condemned. we haven't heard any condemnatio

in fact hhs may be trying to move the goalposts. there's confusion on capitol hill and in the insurance industry accordeding to sources. ed henry tries to my s ting to f it. >> confusion you're right. coverage gaps at the beginning of january. some paperwork coming in late. hhs today published a new regulation basically saying people have until december 31st in order to pay premiums and get coverage the next day january 1st even though the insurance companies may not be able to turn that around. they're asking insurers to basically let people see their current doctors in january even if doctors are no longer in the patient's net works under their new plan. bottom line, republicans on capitol hill are charging the administration changing a lot of this on the fly and creating more chaos. >> with the white house rolling out people magazine sexiest man a live adam levine with other multimillion celebrities in the effort to get more people to sign up, president barack obama is now staring at a new deadline of january 1st to make sure peo

they have been able to shift the goalposts. the spending in the ryan-murray deal on the discretionary side is less by some amount than what president obama proposed. it is even less than what paul ryan proposed. would you agree with the congressman that republicans -- >> i agree with marty that on the discretionary side that significant progress has been made through the sequester and this budget deal. the issues that remain that are the big issues that we continue to kick down the road are on the mandatory spending. they are the ones that we just cannot get our arms around. unless you deal with the entitlements, you can slash discretionary spending another 50%, but you can never really get to what i think we all want and that is a fiscally responsible government today that does not mortgage the future of our kids. >> you have to deal with long- term retirement costs. any real solution will be a combination of the two. >> that has been the real holdup. president obama got hammered. the head of the house republican campaign comm

david: essentially moving the goalposts. i guess 26.7%, it will rise interest rates. now well past that time, you wonder how many times they can move the goalposts, peter. >> they can do whatever they want, david, they are the fed. liz: peter, thank you very much. we have breaking news right now in the michael steinberg insider trading case. portfolio manager over at sac capital. a jury has convicted him on the count of fraud and insider trading. attempting to faint in the courtroom. and then of course they moved the jury out of the room, paramedics came in, senior sac capital manager was convicted in the insider trading case. he has been found guilty and trading of illegal tech stock tips. this is the first conviction, the first trial conviction, lot have pleaded guilty already, the first trial conviction and it could impact the fund manager. david: while sac capital has been indicted, this man, steve cohen, hast not as of yet. some people are wondering if there will be a criminal and indictment. there is an indictment generally against the company, not against the m

they are pushing the goalpost back. the deadline was december 2. if now december 31.e law needs help. >> they had a bad rollout. they are trying to smooth it out so there is no car crash on january 1. let me say, i can't believe what i heard from michelle and jonathan. they just put down a whole advertising vie in america. we are not supposed to advertise good products? if it's good product you don't aertise in of course you. do it's smart for government to get out here and try to get young people involved with the healthcare. >> the point is if it's so good you wouldn't need to sign up adam levine, the world's sex unanimous -- the sexiest man alive. >> wayne, your thoughts on this? i know your makeup artist the st few weeks weighed in on obamacare. cover california says give the gift of obamacare to your adult kids. your thoughts? >> what you said is the fact they have to go sell it is insane. if it was good, evebody would want it. it's not good. it's not working. so they got to go sell. i now they employ people like that rapper to go sell it. that is insanity, too.

. >> some other memorabilia, signage, posts of the goalpost. >> -- pieces of the goalpost. >> the only thing is joe montana's locker is what you can't buy. the final regular season game at the stick is december 23rd. >>> a local athlete has pledged $50,000 to the make-a-wish foundation. >> matt cane says he was inspired by bat kid also known as miles scott as you know. the 5-year-old survivor of leukemia was granted an elaborate wish to be a superhero for a day and still doing a lot of good here. >>> 18 l. a. county sheriff's deputies are charged with corruption and a massive cover- up. what sparked a sweeping federal investigation. >> and a salvation army captain will need a few days to recover after setting a new world record. more on his remarkable dedication coming up. >> freezing temperatures outside again. but could this be the end of the cold snap? we'll talk about it coming up. >> and these b.a.r.t. delays from san francisco out to the east bay continue after a power issue near daly city. we'll have the already latest information fromward, plus your -- b.a.r.t., plus your best

we saw ben bernanke appeared to many people changing the goalposts.t was 6.5% unemployment which would lead to raising rates. now he says the, chairman says until far beyond that, i think phrase he used when they might does that concern you the goalposts seem to be changing here? >> david, let me differentiate between two. one is asset purchases, large-scale asset purchases, qe3 in the parlance of the media. then there is how we anchor the shortened of the-year-old curve. that is the reference to 6.5%. that was not just ben bernanne. it was a statement by the committee. it is in the issued statement. david: i understand. >> we'll go working on, getting back hopefully to normalization, working on the overnight rate which is the fed funds rate or its equivalent when we do these reverse repo operations as they're called. we'll just have to wait and see how the economy develops. i think it was just shifting the ball and going back, really essentially to what we originally did which is dealing with the short term end of the yield curve. that is the beginni

that's we get the goalposts. you get the ball a long dated overtime.to get rule changes like the forward pass in the neutral zone. we were talking are you about the fact that touchdown come yet to touch the ball down physically. they didn't have in zones. they were all sorts of innovations in football, you know, in equipment, and rules, in the field of play, and that have change. that's no different now. the point i think i made in the speech, again if you're able to change the size of the ball, if you able to add insult, if your able to say hey, let's kick the ball beneath the goalposts instead about that, at a forward pass which no rugby game ever done. you don't pass the ball forward in rugby but you can do that football. give google -- people complained at the time this is grass basketball. if you were able to do all that, you're able to introduce a running game and pass the ball which negates kicking but you can still call the game foot ball, then i think we are okay. if ncaa officials are able to kick out defensive players who put on, you know, g

>> the booming kick just makes it inside the goalpost. the ravens win 18-16. goals account for all of the ravens points. >> i'm happy to do it. and don't get me wrong. and my fantasy team is benefitting from it as well. so i'm happy about that. and fantasy owners around the world, i hope you guys appreciate that as well. >> tucker definitely helped advance fantasy football teams in the playoffs. he also put the ravens closer to clinches a postseason spot. >>> and the best team in the nba's eastern conference suffers its first loss at home this season. detroit's josh smith scores 30 points as they deal with pacers record dropped 20-4 on the season. >>> and two of the best in the west meeting in los angeles. the clippers take on the spurs. blake griffin finishes with a game high 27 points as l.a. downed san antonio 115-92. >>> when we return, marketing beyonce, the singer's surprise album shatters sales records amid a breakthrough promotional strategy. ou experience the joy of sugar without all the calories. think sugar, say splenda™ shhhh! shhhh. [ coughs ] i h

that's where you get goalposts, the ball elongated over time, rule changes like the forward pass and the neutral zone. you know, we talked about the fact that the touchdown, you had to touch the ball down physically. they didn't have end zones, and there's innovations in equipment in rules, in the field of play, and that's changed. no different now. you know, the point i think i made in the speech is that if you're able to change the size of the ball, if you're able to add end zones and say, hey, kick the ball beneath the goalpost rather than above it, add a forward pass, that no game ever did, you don't pass forward in rugby, but you do it in football. they complained that this is grass basketball. there were purists screaming bloody murder at that time. if you are able to do that, if you are able to introduce a running game and pass the ball and negotiate kicking, but still call the game with "football," e okay if ncaa officials kick out defensive players who put on hits on defenseless offensive players. we're okay with that. those are minor tweaks to the bigger picture. what the q

. >> read a south africa goalpost nelson mandela?ere is a legitimate question as to having lost the man who was there true moral leader. >> this cannot be understated. this is literally like the heart has been ripped out of south africans tonight. >> this gives time for them to build social capital there, this whole idea that they now realize the vast majority of south africans realize what they have and realize the upside of what they have. because mandela gave them such a long time to contemplate that, i remain an optimist about this. >> i cannot let you go without telling people what you told me during commercial break when you are leaving this up before. you did not meet the man but you .lso almost interviewed him that has to be a source of hurt for you. >> he had to go up to some meeting and i got canceled. i was brokenhearted, even more so now since his passing. >> he was a giant. >> he was an inspiration for so many people there. great.what's really black, white, the old apartheid a guys, everyone claimed him as sort of a fath

it's difficult to kick the goal, the ball into the goalpost by yourself. you need a good team.e idea that everybody's opinion is worth the same is patent lip untrue. there are qualified assessments and unqualified assessments. somebody can walk up and say you suck, your band sucks. that's fine. that's one. but i got ten million others who like it. like it enough to pay for it. so which do i listen to? you'll have an inferred fiduciary duty to yourself to be educated, be able to understand the big picture and understand the structure of capitalism, how it works. the cost of goods. i just have a passion. that means nothing. the most powerful and the most highly positioned people can have the same information i can have. i wasn't born in america. when i came to america, a few blocks down was a library and it was free. i could go in there and learn all the secrets of how to do everything and anything. it's your fault if you don't succe succeed. you cannot fail in america. never be the first one to do anything. you'll be the poorest guy in the room. don't be the first groundbreaker.

. >> i see a scoreboard and a goalpost. did you forget that. >> we have a sense of humour.we left it up so people could be reminded of what it used to be. we don't want to the forget the past. >> the we over me farm symbolizes the college's dedication to a different kind of team. >> there's no glory moving someone from good to great. if i can take you from never believing you have a shot to be average, and inspire you to greatness - well, now you have done something that is worth any of being discussed, emulated and worthy of a legacy in the shoulders that you stand. >> one of the biggest hurdles for college presidents is despite dramatic strides in black living standards significant racial disparities exist. over the last 50 years unemployment and home ownership gaps between blacks and whites remain wide. put another way, blacks earn less, own less property and more likely to be unemployed. 71% of students at hbcu received programs, meaning they come from families earning less than $30,000. at paul quinn 90% have grants. now they have a six-figure surplus and for-sorel the

moving goalposts is raising blood level of alcohol to cure drunk drive something way they spend in congress you, how long this process will take? >> i think it does and i think it matters a great deal to the fed. i can't tell you how thrilled i was to hear such balance in the approach that the fed has taken. we're talking about $5 billion a month out of both the bond purchases and mortgage purchases, at treasurys and the mortgage bonds. it couldn't be more solomon-like. and in fact announcing at the same time that the fed would immediately desist from any further tapering should conditions surprise them. but as it stands now, they see strong growth, 3% growth in this economy, forward, as far as one can reasonably expect the fed or any other group of economists to look. i think this is a balanced, reasoned, prod don't, intelligent group of people making a solid policy decision. if we could get that kind of, descriptors for fiscal policy mavens we would have quite something. ashley: wouldn't that be something. very quickly i want to ask you both on the legacy of ben bernanke, he had his criti

but in a political arena where the goalposts have already been moved so far to the right sustaining progressivewill be challenging. then again with three years left in his presidency and pressing issues like the minimum wage, food stamps and extending unemployment benefits, president obama and democrats in congress will have plenty of opportunities to make good. katrina, that script is an example on one hand, on the other hand. on the one hand but on the other hand. >> i like the basic drift, moving in the right direction. >> on the press -- precipice of 2013, into 2014 are you optimistic the progressive left will have more of a place at the table? >> i'm hopeful it will have more of a place. it hasn't had enough of a place. it seems to me addressing inequality, downward mobility, fairness, these are not issues of left and right, these are issues of right and wrong as elizabeth warren spoke so eloquently of. the center of our politics moved so far to the right. for millions of americans the center is where their lives are at. fairness, inspirational populous politics. the polls, that's not the

how are we doing on those goalpo goalposts? >> they moved to a different field basically. he's technically right. if the program works the way it is supposed to, what it means is right number of younger and older and sicker people sign up and it works but the larger point, the reason you passed obama care in the first place was to expand for more people this opportunity. the congressional budget office saying 7 million people, the estimate for the first year. if all of this is about a couple hundred ,0 thousand people, this is a big big deal for not a lot. >> if we have 365,000 who have signed up, if we divide that into the 318 million or 50 million, this is rather expensive project we have had. 5 million people lost their insurance policies. >> yeah. >> in order to have insurance by january 1st, you have to sign up by december 23rd and they have to go some place, right? they have to go some place between now and the 23rd. and only 365,000 have done anything. and what's the capacity of that website? probably not that. what happens to the five million? >> so a good portion

republican party has failed in terms of creating a governing platform, the tea party has won in that the goalposts moved far to the right, broud bipartisan, budget talks, extending unemployment benefits is a democratic ask. i wonder what you think -- bernie sanders said to the "washington post," i don't wake up every morning saying oh, my goodness, i don't wake up every morning and say i want to be president. but if nobody is going to do it, i'll do it. there's talk about elizabeth warren, bill dallas i don't, if not more resurgent, ascend ant in the last years. >> one of the things that happens through the end of press tension administration politics gets broader and more imaginative and more hinged to the personalities that run it. back to sally's point for a second. there is a crazy like a fox argument on behalf of the republicans. that is as depraved and nilistic as the gop caucus has come to seem, how great does it look for chris christie or scott walker to come in in 2016 and say we've made a mess, my party has made a mess, but now we're going to change, modernize. >> do you feel like they c

that is distinctly the goalpost has been moved right insofar as everything needs to be paid for. at the same time here we have the farm bill. we've had plenty of senate democrats on this show saying we are not going to go above the $4 billion of cuts that are in the senate bill. and now it looks like they are going to double those cuts. in addition to $5 billion, expired stimulus spending, that's $13 billion in s.n.a.p. >> all of this budget brinksmanship has distributed people from fighting over the real stuff like the farm bill. i think people would like to see a longer budget, even if a tiny budge so they can get back to talking about immigration. immigration advocates want a budget deal so maybe they can move on from talking about immigration reform or talking about the farm bill, which is hugely important. we haven't really heard a lot about it. >> to your point, an interesting number, in paul ryan's original budget which everyone decried as incredibly conservative budget, the expected spending in 2014 was 1.09 trillion. we will end up with about $1 trillion if wets a deal,

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. >> i positioned myself on the other side of the goalpost where dwight actually ended up making theause i felt we were going to run the 18 bob that sweep to elliott, we had run reverse to freddie solomon then the sweep to lenville and had big yardage. i waited and i was kind of blocked and i heard this roar and i see dwight coming down and that's when i shot. he is spiking the ball and i was shooting wide but i remember running to him and trying to get a reaction shot and then running with him to the bench, turned and embraced me and i yelled into the helmet, thanks for [ censored ] me up! i was looking for the 18 bob! [ laughter ] >> a lot of great stories from z. yeah. >>> the final act monday night can be seen right here on kpix 5. our long coverage of candlestick starts at 4:30 and after the game we'll have the "5th quarter" and our "bye-bye baby" special featuring z. and more stories from him. >>> 49er fullback bruce miller was placed on injured reserve today. officially ending his season, the 49ers signed fullback will tukawafu but anthony dixon is expected to take miller's pl

. >>> next, team obama continues to move the goalpost on obama care. to enroll again and make it okay to just make partial payments to enroll. obama care is starting to look like a subprime loan.

that's we get the goalpost. you get the ball a long dated overtime.you get rule changes like the forward pass in the neutral zone. we were talking about the fact that the touchdown you hav had o touch the ball down physically. they didn't have in sounds. they were all sorts of innovations and football, you know, in equipment, and rules, in the field of play, and that has changed but that's a different now. the point i think i made in his speech is that if you're able to change the size of the ball, if you able to add insult, if able to say let's get the ball, add the four past which no rugby basting never done. you're able to do that in football. people complained at the time, this is grass basketball. they were furious. if you're able to do all that, if you able to get a running game and pass the ball and naked kicking but you can still call the game football, then i think we're okay if ncaa officials are able to kick out defensive players who put on, you know, hits on defenseless receivers, defenseless offense of play. we're okay with that because t

but in the process of that, i mean, the goalposts have moved right. i want to bring up our chart of the various budgets. can we bring up the chart? the original -- president obama's original budget, $1.235 trillion. the senate democrat budget, $1.058 trillion. the senate cr was 986. that's a little lower. undoubtedly, compared to where we were -- we didn't even put the house progressive caucus budget on there because it wouldn't fit on the graph. we are way closer to where paul ryan wanted to be than we are to where nancy pelosi would like to be. >> exactly. >> democrats have done a terrible, terrible job of making that case to the public, i think, over the last three years. they vnts gone out and sort of convinced the public of, look, we've moved way to the right on these issues we've talked about. we've talked about cutting spending. instead, the public still sort of sees them as the traditional tax and spend democrats. they have not done a very good job of making their case. i think by allowing republicans to define the terms of this engagement, th

that is moving the goalposts. that means we will never do anything. it means we might as will stick with the dogma of the day, because everything will be wrong. ask galileo. that is what they wanted to do with him. the question is, what level of proof do we need in order to make change? that is the arugment today. how much do you need to know? i agree, correlational data is not good enough. you do not know directionality. you have questions about multivariate versus univariate and other things that are going on. but when you have causal, medical inference, which is what you have with sugar and diabetes, that is exactly what we had with tobacco and lung cancer in the 1960's, and it is still all we have. we have never done a scientific proof experiment, because you would have to take naÏve people and start them smoking for 50 years. that is in unethical, immoral, and too expensive. 90% of what we know today in medicine today is causal medical inference. only 10% is scientific proof. but the food industry says we need scientific proof to make any change.

. >>> next, team obama continues to move the goalpost on obama care. now they want to delay the deadline to enroll again and make it okay to just make partial payments to enroll. obama care is starting to look like a subprime loan. but is president obama really setting up the insurance companies for all the blame? >>> and stocks sell off once again. another 100-plus point drop for the dow. strong retail sales, and the expected nomination of the mensch of the hawks, stanley fisher to the fed may be convincing investors that tighter money is on the way. all those stories and more coming up in "the kudlow report" beginning right now. good evening, everyone. i'm larry kudlow. this is "the kudlow report." we're live here at 7:00 p.m. eastern and 4:00 p.m. pacific, and we are loaded with news. we start with breaking news on the budget deal. the house votes to pass the bill and sends it over to the senate. eamon javers in washington with all the details. good evening. >> good evening, larry. in the end it was an overwhelming vote of 332 to 94 to support the b

the fact that the obama administration keeps moving the goalposts and they were asking u and kathleen sibelius if they are going to move anything near the holidays. she did not answer the question. he put out a statement -- even though the administration is trying to bend over backwards to help people sign up, republicans are still criticizing the changes underway here with obamacare. they are continuing to criticize how it was rolled out in the first place. >> one very public sign up is the president himself. >> yes, this is interesting. it is symbolism more than anything else but we heard from the white house that the president himself was enrolled over the weekend under an individual plan, a bronze plan, showing that the president himself has gone through this process. he will not use this health care. he has his own coverage from the military. this is symbolism at best. the white house wanted to show the president did it like every day americans. it took about one hour and the plan he signed up for would cost him $400 per month. of pockete $5,000 out for the president of the unite

even though i didn't agree with the law and a few months later the president decided to move the goalposts saying any money you spend on attorneys you wasted, go ahead and spend it again and he did that not by executive order but by tweet so theoretically everytime he tweets i am supposed to jump and call my lawyers and make sure my business is in compliance with his tweets. stuart: when it occurs to me they have been you. you are going to lose a lot of money on lawyers. you can't take this thing forward and you probably will not -- certainly won't be able to get this delay of the employer mandate rivers to. you have lost. >> i would bet the farm on that. we are doing pretty well. the response was surprisingly weak and they can expect pursue in a response from us so the judge can make a decision whether we have standing. liberty university case, west virginia state univ. cases have been dismissed. we feel our standing is and remains stronger than either of those cases. we remain confident we will have standing in front of a federal judge. stuart: who is funding this effort? where's the mon

they move the goal line forward, goalpost back, some would say, 24 hours. why do that? to try to get more people enrolled so that by january 1st, more people will have health insurance. really, the bottom line is that you can still get health insurance. the deadline is march 31st. just that we're talking about today and now tomorrow, because if you want to have continuous coverage, if you want to continue your coverage from december 31st into the new year on january 1st, you need to get it done by the close of business or by midnight tomorrow night. >> he didn't have to do it this month. he could have done it, because he has insurance, he could have waited a month, two months, a few months. obviously i think what they're trying to do is kind of gin up a little awareness about the fact that this is the deadline. but it's sort of maybe i guess you could say it seems a little fumbled in the way they did it. the other thing obviously for president obama is that what do democrats think, are they on his side. we've heard from senator joe manchin. he said that obamacare could

there goalpost has been moved further down the field. they are not going to be covered by defined benefit plans to the degree that today's retirees are covered. your daughters will live longer than your parents. the time frame is going to be longer. those are the biggest drivers of success or predictors and factors. andeed to make sure gen y the lineals -- and millennials start saving today. >> thank you very much. >> a couple more questions. the generalyou know statistics. respondents were asked if there will be enough money to provide social security and medicare benefits at their current levels. 41% answered likely. 36% answered likely. heard for some years the line that young people feel -- this was a survey. young people feel more likely they will meet elvis presley then to draw social security. not particularly funny, i think. thature us, mr. baker, that is not going to be the case. questions, dothe you think you can get social security? nobody raises their hand. at some point we will stop paying benefits and they start nodding the

. >> and they moved the goalposts. is no longer a hard target, they said. >> no longer a hard target, to clarify, no longer raising rates when it drops, they said it would have to go below. >> and they did not say how far, so they have really given themselves infinite room to continue qe. i think nothing is changing. we are getting ben bernanke 2.0. a shorter, female version of an bernanke. >> come on. >> that is actually a very important point. if you look back at greenspan, he was a hero at the time but now a lot of people blame him for the asset bubble of 2008. do you think we could face a similar situation? >> i think so. the fed has proven that it is a bubble machine. i believe there is risk. not one that is cataclysmic right now, because there is not nearly as much leverage, but is this bubble territory? i think so. >> people have been calling for this for years. for two years now people have said that we will get runaway inflation and a bubble and it has not happened. all right, hold on one second, we have some

they have been able to shift the goalposts.e spending in the ryan-murray deal on the discretionary side s less by what president obama roposed. it is even less than what paul ryan proposed. would you agree with the congressman that republicans -- > i agree with marty that on the discretionary side that significant progress has been made to the sequester and this budget deal. the issues that remain that are the big issues that we continue to kick down the road are on the mandatory spending. they are the ones that we just cannot get our arms around. unless you deal with the entitlements, you can/discretionary spending another 50%, but you can never really get to what i think we all want and that is a fiscally responsible government today that does not -- >> you have to deal with long-term retirement costs. any real solution will be a combination of the two. box that has been the holdup. -- >> that has been the real oldup. resident obama got hammered. the head of the house republican ampaign committee came out instantaneously and

that is moving the goalposts. that means we will never do anything.it means we might as will stick with the dogma of the day, because everything will be wrong. ask galileo. that is what they wanted to do with him. the question is, what level of proof do we need in order to make change? 90% of what we know today in medicine today is causal medical inference. only 10% is scientific proof. but the food industry says we need scientific proof to make any change. why? because they know we will never get it. finally, regulation is tantamount to the nanny state, like michael bloomberg, the nanny. that fact is, we have already been told what to eat. it is too late. everyone says, keep your hands out of my kitchen. fact is, your kitchen has already been invaded and you have already been told what to eat. of the 600,000 items in the american supermarket, 80% have added sugar. added by the food industry for their own purposes, not for yours. you've already been told what to eat. this is not about big brother. big brother is here. so the big question is -- who do

they may move the goalpost on what peter was talking about inflation target could be 1.75.r inflation number 1.75 versus 2% you could see a rate hike coming. ashley: peter, you asked mr. bernanke's questions and his last press conference. so he didn't see the housing bubble come but you could argue his legacy he did repair the damage even though not popular in some quarters, he was very good once he got into action, once this housing crisis became a reality. >> yeah, he will definitely go down in history as a consequential federal reserve chairman. tomorrow at the press conference i want to ask him about this budget deal that was reached last week on the hill and approved by the house with the senate. that was one of the reasons. fiscal, uncertainty, fiscal gridlock was one of the reasons that the fed said it wanted to keep up the qe, keep up the stimulus. ashley: yeah. >> that's gone now. so what does he think now, now that is taken off the table? cheryl: all right, peter barnes, greg valliere, liz macdonald, thank you very much. a lot happening on wednesday when we get th

actually take money from consumers and pay for health care itself, all the rule changes, moving goalposts, delays, extensionses, that has to be causing problems as well? >> it causing huge political problems. the hardship exemption they offered or bare bones policy for people under 30, all of this is coming clearer that a lot of costs and premiums of these policies, of obamacare is going to be high, higher than what people were paying and that some people's higher premiums will be subsidizing the others coming into the system and this is the reality not clear when obamacare was packed. costs would be higher for some people to be lower for others. people are saying how am i sucked into this vortex obamacare when i thought the whole idea was kind of create a program to help uninsured? why am i being damaged by this program? it will create tremendous political problems as ed henry was just suggesting for those endangered democratic senators. >> you're saying the law of unintended consequences will come home pretty soon? >> this is the thing, leland. the software problem was not expected but

martha: fox news alert, this morning the white house moving the goalpost yet again.hey're now asking insurers to extend the sign-up deadline and make sure that people are covered whether they have paid that bill or not. welcome to a brand new hour on a friday of "america's newsroom," i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. the white house wants to move to deadline to new year's eve x the white house telling insurance companies not to worry about late payments, just cover those people anyway. what a great people. martha: imagine if all wizs were run this -- businesses were run this way. charles krauthammer says the obama administration is approaching a new level of lawlessness. >> the democrats are looking at a train wreck in january, and this is exactly the reaction to a deep understanding among democrats it is a train wreck, and it's a panic reaction. as the judge said, this is utterly lawless. this now approaches a banana republic lawlessness. i mean, instead of -- the only difference is that here when you get presidential decrees, it's done on a conference ca

there goalpost has been moved further down the field. they are not going to be covered by defined benefit plans to the degree that today's retirees are covered. your daughters will live longer than your parents. the time frame is going to be longer. those are the biggest drivers of success or predictors and factors. andeed to make sure gen y the lineals -- and millennials start saving today. >> thank you very much. >> a couple more questions. the generalyou know statistics. respondents were asked if there will be enough money to provide social security and medicare benefits at their current levels. 41% answered likely. 36% answered likely. heard for some years the line that young people feel -- this was a survey. young people feel more likely they will meet elvis presley then to draw social security. not particularly funny, i think. thature us, mr. baker, that is not going to be the case. questions, dothe you think you can get social security? nobody raises their hand. at some point we will stop paying benefits and they start nodding the

the seventh circuit through the course of a couple major cases is basically given us the goalpost in terms of what our responsibilities are in terms of assigning those costs. >> okay. >> thank you for your time mr. chairman. i yield back 36 seconds. and that this dynamic the gentleman from texas, mr. hall for five minutes. >> mr. chairman, thank you. commissionerscan attain an. here today. if i ask questions that shallowly or we are all trying to pass everything we can before getting to go home for christmas. i have been hearing about a new type ologies that is coming on the market. i am from texas with coors, very interested in energy. it's probably the most important word in the dictionary for young people. they have no jobs today. if we go on this the way we go now, there will be no employers in about a year. you have a very important job. he manufactured the solution of gas liquids to make it easy to transport to the customer who then can use it as the fuel or, feedstock for electric generation, whenever they want. and told the new technology can be relatively small, simple equip

principle i think the seventh circuit through the course of a couple of major cases has given us the goalpost in terms of what our responsibilities are in signing those costs. >> thank you all for your time and i will yell back 36 seconds. >> the gentleman from texas for five minutes. >> mr. tran, thank you. i ask questions touched on earlier i was in another committee we are all trying to pass everything we can before going home for christmas. i've been hearing about a new technology coming onto the market and i'm from texas and of course everybody's interested. it's the most important word in the dictionary for young people and they have no jobs today and if we keep going the way we are going out there will be no employers in each year or so. you have a very important job. to manufacture the solution out of gas liquids to make it easy to transport to a customer who's increased i and then can use it. it's a new technology that can be used relatively small and equipment that is modular and can be moved from side to side which is important to capture where they can be installed in the existing

the second big drivers the goalpost has been moved down the field and today's generation of rumors. they're not going to be covered by defined benefit plans to the degree to today's retirees are covered. they have to solve more on their own. as we think about people living longer, daughters will live longer than parents, so the timeframe over which they need to cover the retirement expenses is longer. those are the two biggest drivers of success or predict various and factors to make sure genlock and millennialist understand today and start saving early with that first paycheck ever want them to put 15%. >> rate, thank you. >> a couple more questions. otherwise we'll wrap up. a number of you i've seen -- you know this generosity is six. last year if you poll respondent that there'll be enough money to provide social security and medicare benefit at their current levels. 41% of those 18 to 29 answer blakey. 36% answered likely. you've heard for some years -- i think i've heard this for literally a number of decades. the line young people feel are more alike -- i don't know if this is

the seventh circuit through the course of a couple major cases has given us the goalpost in terms of what our responsibilities are in terms of signing those costs. >> thank you for your time. i will yield back 36 seconds. >> thank you. at recognize the gentleman from texas, mr. hall for five minute. >> thank you for appearing here today. questions were touched on earlier. i was in another committee where we were trying to pass everything we can before getting to go home for christmas. i have been hearing about a new technology coming gone to the market and i am from texas and interested more than most important word in the dictionary for young people and they have no jobs today and if we go the way we are going there will be no employers in a year's so you have an important job. manufacturing this solution out of gas liquids to make easier to transport to a customer who treats and can use it as an electric generation or whatever they want, and i am told it is a new technology, relatively small equipment often modular and can be moved from side to side which is important to capture st

kathleen sebelius, she dialed the plan via conference call about how they're going to move the goalpostsin. listen. >> consumers now have until december 23rd to sign up for coverage that begins on the 1st of january. insurers will now be required to accept payments until at least december 31st for coverage that begins on january 1st. and we're encouraging insurers to allow insurers who pay portions of their premium, such as a downpayment, to be able to start their coverage on time. >> peter, did she just say that you can pay right up tilling, you know, midnight, till ryan seacrest drops the ball in times square and then one minute later you get coverage? can you imagine if you're working at the insurance company. they're thinking, are they crazy? we can't do that. >> this is proof positive that it's a mess. what she said is you can pay late, you can pay a partial payment and still have coverage and pay, as you said, one minute before. on top of that, there are 135,000 people that went into the federal program, people who couldn't get insurance because of pre-existing conditions. most of

is it being seen as a good sign that there's interest at the end or is this seen as moving the goalpostssays, look, we're giving people an extra day. if they sign up by midnight tonight now, if you haven't signed up, you can go online. that deadline was supposed to be last night, midnight, 11:59. it gives people an extra day. the administration says why not. if there's been a rush at the end. they acknowledge the glitches they've had. as we talked about many, many, many times, the more people in, the better the financial footing of the program. critics say there's been more proof, modifications made, deadlines extended. more proof, this thing is too big, too bulky and doesn't work. lo and behold as we get to christmas, the political debate will continue and we'll carry it over to next year. if you want to, there's a period of grace. >> look, more time to sign up, it's got to be a good thing. that's what makes the program function. >> right. >> help me understand this. the president symbolically signs up for obamacare. now, remind me but i remember one of the rules of politics being, you