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not keep moving the goalpost the stadium. >> mr. cullings, congressman cummings, saying they are not just moving the goalpost. they are moving the whole stadium. >> issa investigation is a joke. i mean, a complete farce. >> that's not what congressman issa says. he is grand instant standing that committee. >> all you have to do is read the -- some of the fool facts and you will recognize this is a presents toterrous -- hung it all on the -- their main witness is the only person in this whole thing who is truly at fault. if you get -- tray to get to the bottom of it as "fortune" did. what this does show is there was bad management and at the justice department and at the atf. unwielding bureaucracy is at the route of a lot of this and shoddy journalism on the part of cbs news. so there's plenty of blame to go around. as for the -- administration's reaction, it makes it seem that by claiming executive privilege they have somehow done something out of watergate. this has been claimed many times by many presidents, including ronald reag
not keep moving the goalpost the stadium. >> mr. cullings, congressman cummings, saying they are not just moving the goalpost. they are moving the whole stadium. >> issa investigation is a joke. i mean, a complete farce. >> that's not what congressman issa says. he is grand instant standing that committee. >> all you have to do is read the -- some of the fool facts and you will recognize this is a presents toterrous -- hung it all on the -- their main witness is the only...
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. >> not keep moving the goalpost, keep moving the stadium.ost closer and he can't seem to kick a two yard field goal. >> we are getting ready to stain this institution with this particular kind of undertaking. and i, for one -- >> mr. hastings, i may say the stain will be on the attorney general's office for refuse to go deliver documents that he knows he could deliver, that he s. has offered to deliver but only for, if you will, a plea bargain. i believe mr. cummings has not lived up to his promise. i wish he has to the terry family. i believe in spirit he thinks he has but in reality the truth is too painful for him to take on his own attorney general and i think that's one of the problems that goes on in every administration. >> in my 61 years of life, no one, no one has ever questioned by integrity. you just did. and i resent what you said. >> and tonight a growing list of house democrats saying they will break ranks of the parties. he they say they will vote yes to holding the attorney general in contempt. johnathan strong from roll call
. >> not keep moving the goalpost, keep moving the stadium.ost closer and he can't seem to kick a two yard field goal. >> we are getting ready to stain this institution with this particular kind of undertaking. and i, for one -- >> mr. hastings, i may say the stain will be on the attorney general's office for refuse to go deliver documents that he knows he could deliver, that he s. has offered to deliver but only for, if you will, a plea bargain. i believe mr. cummings has not...
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this movement of the goalposts, the educational aspect. if we are serious about doing the right thing, we have the education aspect. these businesses need to know where we stand on the issues. it is a difficult question but at least, and xtech, as the commissioner said, would be to start a dialogue to start to take positions and may be generate some sort of answer where we feel comfortable that if somebody generally makes the effort, is that the end? they do not ever really know if they are compliant. that is a difficult thing. the other aspect which is the vt thing. and the other thing that is brought out is if you do not have the property owners -- it might take x amount of dollars and it is a no-win situation and they have invested all of this money. for me, the idea this morning is to talk about its. i would like you to stay on our radar and show the community that we understand the pain that you're going through trying to deal with these issues and open up the department more if you do need answers. >> we do have a technical services
this movement of the goalposts, the educational aspect. if we are serious about doing the right thing, we have the education aspect. these businesses need to know where we stand on the issues. it is a difficult question but at least, and xtech, as the commissioner said, would be to start a dialogue to start to take positions and may be generate some sort of answer where we feel comfortable that if somebody generally makes the effort, is that the end? they do not ever really know if they are...
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when he hasn't uncovered facts that support someone resigning, he has moved the goalpost, and now hets documents from the months after that letter was written that have nothing to do with the initial response. >> we have heard all week long from democrats that there are certain people that should be testifying in front of the committee and issa will not allow them to be called. do you think that there are other people out there that would shed more light on this to help all congressional members in the country to get to the bottom of this? >> you could tard with attorney general mukasey, the last attorney general in the bush administration. >> you think he should be called? >> we have seen a memo that went to him describing gun walking, guns tracked across the border. went right to him. clear as day. i don't know why the committee didn't call him. >> appreciate your time. we'll do it again. thank you. >>> coming up, the washington post is calling romney a pioneer, but it's not a compliment. find out what his business success is creating a campaign fail. . >>> and later, copt profits
when he hasn't uncovered facts that support someone resigning, he has moved the goalpost, and now hets documents from the months after that letter was written that have nothing to do with the initial response. >> we have heard all week long from democrats that there are certain people that should be testifying in front of the committee and issa will not allow them to be called. do you think that there are other people out there that would shed more light on this to help all congressional...
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they didn't show wrong doing on the behalf of senior officials so he shmoved the goalposts aga. >> theree some redacted statements in that, correct? >> statements that were withdrawn. >> well, this is the crux of it all right now. issa wants to know what was taken out of that letter. he doesn't believe that eric holder is telling the truth and he says some of them say that the obama administration knew about it, the obama team knew about it. >> yeah, well, he does say that, but in fact, you know, the second thing he asked for unthis investigation was all of the documents that led to the preparation of that letter. and these are documents that departments of justice in the past have not turned over. but this department bent over backwards and gave him those documents and they showed that the people who wrote the letter got bad information, an inadvertent mistake, but issa hasn't been satisfied with that. when he hasn't uncovered facts that support someone resigning, he has moved the goalpost, and now h wants documents from the months after that letter was written that have nothing to do w
they didn't show wrong doing on the behalf of senior officials so he shmoved the goalposts aga. >> theree some redacted statements in that, correct? >> statements that were withdrawn. >> well, this is the crux of it all right now. issa wants to know what was taken out of that letter. he doesn't believe that eric holder is telling the truth and he says some of them say that the obama administration knew about it, the obama team knew about it. >> yeah, well, he does say...
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the reason that we have narrowed or moved the goalpost easier from the attorney general to get a field goal here is in fact that we've had discovery and we've limited it. on may 18th is when the speaker took the extraordinary measure of narrowing the request in a letter to the attorney general. i might note he also spoke to the president on that. last friday, what we did as a result of our becoming aware of the ranking member and the ranking member also becoming aware of the details inside seven wiretaps is that we felt from the standpoint of contempt although we still need additional information about the people in the chain that it really didn't need to be included in contempt so we narrowed contempt. we have not narrowed our need to get this information and i'm not trying to lecture anyone because i'm not a lawyer, but in fact, the vast majority of material we have not gotten, we believe, we totally believe is not protected because of some compromising of ongoing criminal investigations, but, of course, to know that we would need a privileged law that we have not received an offer o
the reason that we have narrowed or moved the goalpost easier from the attorney general to get a field goal here is in fact that we've had discovery and we've limited it. on may 18th is when the speaker took the extraordinary measure of narrowing the request in a letter to the attorney general. i might note he also spoke to the president on that. last friday, what we did as a result of our becoming aware of the ranking member and the ranking member also becoming aware of the details inside...
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in news was found hanging from the goalpost. investigators are looking into it as whether it was a hate crime and if it was intended to cause terror. >> just one win away, miami's desperate rally in game 4 of the nba finals >> it is our image captured by a nasa photographer, coming up >> taking a live look at the east bay commute. eyewitness news continues after the break. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >> the first day of summer, we are excited about that. >> gorgeous weather with lots of sunshine. still looking at some great weather outside, and numbers right now into the fifties and almost 60 degrees in san jose. >> things are starting to heat up a bit on bay area roadways. we're following a couple of problems in the east bay. >> the nba championship series could be one game away from being over >> miami rallied from a deficit last night to beat the thunder 104-98. miami leads the best of seven series 3-1 and could capture the title with a win at home tomorrow. the big play of the day, we go to chicago for an amazing ketch. the cub
in news was found hanging from the goalpost. investigators are looking into it as whether it was a hate crime and if it was intended to cause terror. >> just one win away, miami's desperate rally in game 4 of the nba finals >> it is our image captured by a nasa photographer, coming up >> taking a live look at the east bay commute. eyewitness news continues after the break. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >> the first day of summer, we are excited about that. >> gorgeous...
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the goalpost keeps changing.epartment of justice keeps making accommodations and offers to share information that might be useful to an appropriate oversight investigation. and the chairman of the government reform committee goes and has a press conference and says these people aren't cooperating. so consistent with your olympics sports metaphor, the goalpost keeps moving, essentially who you're dealing with and it is unclear what the deal would be. >> bill: you've been there. you were assistant attorney general. so many questions about this. most people don't understand the fast and furious -- what was going on at any rate. so what was this operation all about and when did it start? >> it started in the -- this particular gun investigation and series of gun investigations started in the bush administration, attorney general muck as iy, the phoenix office of atf a part of the department of justice conducted an investigation which is fairly common in law enforcement regrettably this one went awry and i think peopl
the goalpost keeps changing.epartment of justice keeps making accommodations and offers to share information that might be useful to an appropriate oversight investigation. and the chairman of the government reform committee goes and has a press conference and says these people aren't cooperating. so consistent with your olympics sports metaphor, the goalpost keeps moving, essentially who you're dealing with and it is unclear what the deal would be. >> bill: you've been there. you were...
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when he can do so, he moves the goalposts and moves on to something else. summaries of those wiretap applications may not have had the most nefarious details. senior officials may not have known about the most nefarious stuff. we could see that somebody at doj had to sign off on the more nefarious operations and aspects because somebody did sign off on those wiretap applications, which typically happened to be very detailed. >> no one at justice, and there has never been any evidence that anyone in a senior official position -- [talking over each other] megyn: somebody at doj had to sign off, did they not? i am talking about the controversial aspects of the operation. >> there has never been any evidence that anybody at main justice signoff on the gun walking tactics. not only that, but ken nelson, the head of the atf, actually testified to darrell issa's committee that he never told anybody about the gun walking. megyn: feebly that president obama and eric holder have talked about more controversial aspects of this case? the gun walking tactics that were u
when he can do so, he moves the goalposts and moves on to something else. summaries of those wiretap applications may not have had the most nefarious details. senior officials may not have known about the most nefarious stuff. we could see that somebody at doj had to sign off on the more nefarious operations and aspects because somebody did sign off on those wiretap applications, which typically happened to be very detailed. >> no one at justice, and there has never been any evidence that...
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general eric holder, he's been there nine separate times, and each time, the committee moved the goalpost on information they requested. sometimes, the republicans didn't even know that they were asking holder to break the law. an earlier subpoena by issa requested grand jury transcripts and wiretap logs. it's against the law for holder to release these documents. these oversights are not accidental. they identified exactly why the hearings were taking place. >> we're brought to this moment to believe this is all about really a rogue attorney general who is uncooperative with this branch of government and he needs to be reined in and the ultimate penalty we have available, contempt, and we're going to demean him. we're going to tarnish his reputation because that's houtd we get to the president of the united states. >> the committee's ranking democrat said it would be extreme for a contempt vote to be brought up for the full congress. >> if mr. boehner takes this to the house, he will be seen as one of the most extreme speakers that ever took charge of a house. >> but speaker boehner said
general eric holder, he's been there nine separate times, and each time, the committee moved the goalpost on information they requested. sometimes, the republicans didn't even know that they were asking holder to break the law. an earlier subpoena by issa requested grand jury transcripts and wiretap logs. it's against the law for holder to release these documents. these oversights are not accidental. they identified exactly why the hearings were taking place. >> we're brought to this...
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and you have to stop moving your goalpost unless something happens in these documents that gives reason, spikes more curious city, maybe there is. that's what i don't get. >> i think if you have reasonable people in a room together, they could easily resolve this. and they would agree that, okay, some additional documents will be turn over and some are legitimately covered by the privilege and we will agree that those should not be turned over. the problem is we don't have reasonable parties in the room and the problem is that the desire here among the committee leadership and among the house leadership is for the fight. and if the desire is for the fight -- >> forget the fight. forget the fight. >> there is nothing you can do to resolve it. >> i think how a judge would resolve it, and you are a former prosecutor. and congressman gowdy is that remember foreprosecutor, the judge would turn to one party and say what documents do you want and turn to the other side are you willing to provide these specific documents? not thousands of other pages but these specific. that's where we are. >>
and you have to stop moving your goalpost unless something happens in these documents that gives reason, spikes more curious city, maybe there is. that's what i don't get. >> i think if you have reasonable people in a room together, they could easily resolve this. and they would agree that, okay, some additional documents will be turn over and some are legitimately covered by the privilege and we will agree that those should not be turned over. the problem is we don't have reasonable...
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but then he came and moved the goalposts and a in a whole new updated citation and now we look at what is left to fight over here. apparently we are left to fight about an explanation of how the depression came to learn its original denial that this gun walking had occurred was inaccurate. which it now has acknowledged and later change course is emitting to air. nothing in this remaining set has anything to do with how the gun walking happened and how it's going to be reformed. that is what we promised the family, to find out how it happened which was done and that we promise reform which we are not doing. when we try to do that during the hearings, there was an effort made to question witnesses about the failure of the current laws of combat drug -- gun trafficking and specifically told the agents not answer those questions. they said it was outside the scope of the hearing and it wouldn't be considered valid testimony. so it seems to me to perform off the table before we even got started and i think that is justice to the committee's word and particular the family and i in the mac an
but then he came and moved the goalposts and a in a whole new updated citation and now we look at what is left to fight over here. apparently we are left to fight about an explanation of how the depression came to learn its original denial that this gun walking had occurred was inaccurate. which it now has acknowledged and later change course is emitting to air. nothing in this remaining set has anything to do with how the gun walking happened and how it's going to be reformed. that is what we...
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using the football field analogy, while i believe the republican party has moved the on its own goalpostbut you can imagine a democratic party that loses almost all of the remaining elements of its moderate and conservative movement, and that decides more and more to dig its heels in. i do not think that has happened, and i think some of the rhetoric has been kind of ridiculous. the democratic party that took all the reins of power, and did not enact any of the labor wish list items, they came up with a health care plan that didn't do a single pair, and didn't do a public option. the idea that this is the secular socialist machine that newt gingrich called it, or this is an administration and the democratic party that is herman cain said the other day, consciously deliberately is trying to destroy capitalism, i find it a little bit ridiculous. but you can imagine both parties moving further apart. those type of republicans, with no easy place to go. he leaves them with no place to go. i do not think a third party is going to emerge from our system and culture won't tolerate that. but we
using the football field analogy, while i believe the republican party has moved the on its own goalpostbut you can imagine a democratic party that loses almost all of the remaining elements of its moderate and conservative movement, and that decides more and more to dig its heels in. i do not think that has happened, and i think some of the rhetoric has been kind of ridiculous. the democratic party that took all the reins of power, and did not enact any of the labor wish list items, they came...
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they kept moving the goalpost over and over and over and over and over again.and who's not on your side. don't look at the cosmetic dressing where they come at the very end. put -- we're on your side. look at the actual work that they've done. >> bill: marco rubio what's your take? >> it is going to be interesting. some folks are going to say oh, he's hispanic. they will stick with him because he's hispanic. nevertheless, the well-educated folks will look at what he stands for. is he for or against the hispanic community. i know he's trying to do a dream act. we haven't seen the details of his own but he's trying to. but i know he's going uphill against the republicans on that issue. >> bill: but you don't think automatically he brings -- the hispanic vote with him to a mitt romney. they could automatically deliver that vote? >> no. i just do not see that. there will be some folks that will say oh, there is a hispanic one out there. automatically, is he going to get the majority of the votes? no. >> bill: when congress is debating, i just wanted to play a quick
they kept moving the goalpost over and over and over and over and over again.and who's not on your side. don't look at the cosmetic dressing where they come at the very end. put -- we're on your side. look at the actual work that they've done. >> bill: marco rubio what's your take? >> it is going to be interesting. some folks are going to say oh, he's hispanic. they will stick with him because he's hispanic. nevertheless, the well-educated folks will look at what he stands for. is...
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the reason we have removed the goalpost easier to get a feel go is in fact that we have had discovery. we have limited bit. may 18 is when the speaker took the extraordinary measure of narrowing the request in a letter to the attorney general. he also spoke to the president. last friday what we did as a result of our becoming aware of the details inside a seven wiretaps is that we felt that from a standpoint of content although we still need information about people in the chain, we had narrowed can sense. i am not a lawyer. the vast majority of the material we have not gotten. we totally believe it is not protected because of some compromising of ongoing criminal investigations. to know that we would need a privileged law which we have not received an offer of. >> there has been some narrowing. you adjusted the subpoena after friday. this was withdrawn. i think it is reasonable. you can get a privilege block. i agree with that. the since i have been maybe able to resolve this if we did the thought i have is we may be able to resolve this -- the thought i had is we may be able to reso
the reason we have removed the goalpost easier to get a feel go is in fact that we have had discovery. we have limited bit. may 18 is when the speaker took the extraordinary measure of narrowing the request in a letter to the attorney general. he also spoke to the president. last friday what we did as a result of our becoming aware of the details inside a seven wiretaps is that we felt that from a standpoint of content although we still need information about people in the chain, we had...
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the whole to about the 25-yard-line while i believe the republican party has moved beyond its own goalpost. but you can imagine a democratic party that loses almost all of the remaining elements of its moderate and conservative movement, and that decides more and more to dig its heels in. i do not think that's happened, and i think some of the rhetoric has been kind of ridiculous. a democratic party that took all the reins of power and didn't enact card check or any of the labor wish list items, that came up with a health care plan ha not -- that not only didn't do sickle payer -- single payer, but didn't include the that option. the idea that this is an administration and a democratic party that as herman cain said just the other cay consciously, deliberately is trying to destroy capitalism i find a little bit ridiculous. but you can imagine both parties moving further apart and leaving those traditional conservative jeb bush-type republicans with no easy place to go. i do not think a third party is going to emerge. our system and our culture won't tolerate that. but we're going to have t
the whole to about the 25-yard-line while i believe the republican party has moved beyond its own goalpost. but you can imagine a democratic party that loses almost all of the remaining elements of its moderate and conservative movement, and that decides more and more to dig its heels in. i do not think that's happened, and i think some of the rhetoric has been kind of ridiculous. a democratic party that took all the reins of power and didn't enact card check or any of the labor wish list...