christmas day 2009 that could bring down an character and that person here in the states and does not goanybody, see something, say something. that person is able to get through a walk through metal detector and gets on a plane, then the air marshals are there for the last line of defense for the government. i see them as a valuable s pekt of the multiple layers of security and even if they are not air marshals on a particular flight and we assign them on a risk-based model also, there is a turn up effect. we know terrorists are aware that we have air marshals here in the u.s. and they see that as a deterrent. we are fortunate to have a number of pilots and the program. so even if there is not an air marshal on board, it is possible there will be a pilot and if they tried to get in the pilot, they will have an opportunity to defeat the terrorist. >> do you think that the see something say something campaign is working? >> i think it's a lot of common sense. i think it's something that we saw with the times square bomber and he saw something suspicious and reported it. that's just incumbent upon