and then lastly on the gobocs own report, there's a schedule that lays out the schedule for next year, and on the back, there's a schedule we discussed with member chu and member mcnulty, so you're just kind of aware of what we're thinking in setting out this schedule. so during next fiscal year, you would meet five times, and you would not meet in july and december. those were among other things the challenging months for scheduling. each bond program would be before you to make a formal presentation once a year, so you had ae be seeing all the detail, the schedule -- you'd be seeing all the detail, the scheduling around eser like you did today, and then six months around the clock, the bond program manager would be here to answer any questions or comments, so that's sort of how we envisioned that. >> excuse me. i just want to clarify that. so for the -- for each bond on the second presentation, if you will, to the committee, the liaison member will report to the committee but the bond manager will be available to answer any questions that may emanate from that presentation. >> that'