chief godown: correct. commissioner kingsley: if at the end of the six month pilot we were to decide this does not work, the dgo would revert to the original language. commissioner chan: i did not hear that. commissioner hammer: that is definitely the intent of the motion. commissioner kingsley: it would have to be. chief godown: the officers need something to rely upon, whether it goes with the program are moved back from it. there would need the use of these guidelines. if it helps to clarify, i do not know procedurally if the intent of the motion is clear -- if at the end of the pilot program, the commission would have to vote whether to extend it, altered, or expand it. without another vote after the pilot program, nothing happened after that. if the commission were to decide the pilot was a failure and cancel the program, the dgo would revert. that is the clear intent of this motion. commissioner chan: come back to me, please. commissioner kingsley: aye. commissioner slaughter: aye. commissioner chan:

president mazzucco: item approved. >> this is a question for chief godown. commissioner chan: i have a question about items 4 and 5. i have a question about the time of it. vice president marshall: do you want me to address anything? president mazzucco: why are we doing this receipt actively. >> i am director of the homeland security and marine unit. it is my understanding that the 20% we were supposed to have of matching funds, we couldn't accept the grant, so we came up with 20%. the 20% now is being awarded through another grant, which makes us eligible to take the thing at no cost to the city. deborah landis, waiting for me at the door, had to leave. i have just spoken to her about that. i have also spoken to chief matthews. the chief won a grant, and he -- >> i amany from the state department of boating and waterways. i have a start-date of 2011. >> to answer commissioner chan's question, perhaps i could get standard to include in resolutions the grant is expended receipt active -- retroactive. you want to be able to go back to the grant performance per

chief godown: i appreciate your presentation. real quick, if i can get my hands around this study -- i am kind of confused. prior to the implementation of tasers, there was one in 100,000 of sudden death. once the agency's implemented the taser, it was six in 100,000. can you tell me that had anything to do with the taser? >> we cannot. this was not a clinical trial. we cannot ethically use a clinical trial. the only thing we can do is look at outcomes and perform statistical analysis of outcomes we see. there is no question that there was a significant, substantial increase in the outcome. you are right. were those six all due to the taser? i cannot answer that question. before the tasers were introduced, death rates were one in 100,000. afterward, they went up to six fold. it is the same city, demographic, police department. chief godown: officer involved shootings went up after implementation. you said they had more and more violent time during that time. we cannot tell me that had anything to do with tasers, correct? >> that

chief godown: that is still the understanding. i will come back to the commission in 30 days as to what particular less legal option we are looking at. then we will go out and do the research as far as training and everything is concerned. commander mahoney is going to start the presentation with a real-live scenario we do with on a daily basis. we handle scenarios like the one you are going to see hundreds, if not thousands, of times a year. this is a controlled environment. stay in your seats. the floor is yours. >> thank you, chief. good evening, members of the commission, chief, members of the audience. i am from the office of the chief of staff. i come before you almost one year to the day to request approval to equip ourselves with a conductive energy device. it was a pilot program developed and presented to commissioner approval. we would like to put on a short reply exercise to demonstrate real life situations which may call for an increase in use of force. this is unfortunately a common occurrence in san francisco, office

[applause] >> how do you do commissioners and chief godown. i wanted to say i'm a disabled american and i'm also the chapter president and organizer for chapter 16 for the californians with disability rights. i wanted to remind all the commissioners and the chief that individuals who are being visited by police officers in their moments of crises are disabled americans. they do have rights. they do require the kind of compassion and dignity anyone in crises has afforded to them. in speaking about this, this particular model that the officer and doctor brought sounds like one that has previously been here but that the network fell apart. one of the things they bring to the table is the interaction with agencies that support the mentally ill and provide services for the mentally ill. persons who are mentally ill have moments of high crises. those high crises are passing moments. for the most part, individuals find methods to cope, and only when he have they have the crises do they have the interactions with the officers. so dr. marshall, i want

chief godown: are there some departments that prohibit the dry stunning? >> i do not know. some have to have a regulation that it cannot be used on people who are handcuffed. a do nothing dry stunning should exist. i wish i knew the answer. i would suggest no dry stunning, yes. chief godown: my second question is that there is no argument that a high percentage of police departments across this country have tasers. if that is the case and there are some in lawsuits, why is it police departments do not ban the taser? >> thank you for the question. i think there is a move away from taser. we're talking about this new generation of devices, which only became widespread starting in 2003, and since 2005. there is less than 10 years of history here. taser reported fourth quarter earnings, and sales are way down. i have talked to representatives from small apartments, who have told me they are thinking about dropping the device because of their concern about liability and effectiveness. i think we are going to see a phase-out of these devices over the next several years. now that

. >> thank you, commissioners, for looking at this issue this evening, and for chief godown for a new openness in looking at the police department. my name is helena brook and i'm director of the mental health board. with a group of people from mental health, we could collaborated and created the training that existed -- we co-collaborated and created the training that existed for the past 10 years. i applaud the continuation of training ever all the officers. the training that has been a collaborative effort between the police department and mental health has trained nearly 1,000 officers appropriately to help people with mental illness and help them get help. these don't make the front-page news. i want to emphasize that through the training from meeting the officers in the san francisco police department, we have a tremendous department that do care about the citizens of san francisco. during the past 10 years the department also funded research about the type of training and the type of calls that people get and the number of calls from people with mental illness. results show the

interim police chief jeff godown. thank you for being here today.now on with the program. when phil told me he invited the speaker of the california state assembly to swear him in, i looked at him and said, are you kidding me? the governor is introducing his budget that we, sessions that week, there is no way he is driving down to san francisco for you on wednesday night. but it sure enough, here i am. i am not sure that bill asked me to introduce him, more so as payback for being the naysayer. we are so happy to have you here. i get to call you john, because this was before he became speaker. i first met john in 2008. bill said to me, my college friend is in town running for a board office in l.a.. we found ourselves having breakfast one morning. i thought, we are going to spend the entire breakfast talking about his candidacy, who was going to win. this is too much for a saturday morning. but sure enough, at one point, he stopped talking about the campaign and just started playing with our daughter isabella, who was two at the time. at the pinnacl

commissioner dejesus: i talked to chief godown, and whoever is in charge of this, embracing this, taking it on as a project and keeping it going, you know, what it takes from the command staff down to make this a successful program. >> it is critical. it quone sides with that newer turring. when i said there are differ levels of nurturing. from the inside, i told you the chief said, make this happen. i had to understand this from a broader perspective. this helped me bring this into place to let me understand what some of the issues were. it was something i had missed. the people were very skeptical. even though we had people that volunteered, they were saying, i'm not sure about this. so they were somewhat skept -- skeptical. but they said lieutenant cochran is part of this. he's going to watch out for us. and i made that commitment to them. i was going to other view the issues being presented to them so that the training met their needs as a law enforcement. they were nervous at the -- this was the start of the program. they said, we don't want this to interfere with other issues that

-- commissioner kingsley: chief godown: when we went to los angeles and look at their model, and went to memphis, i think all three of us sat down collectively and meant the decision that was what we wanted to do. the argument here is the fact that we are still trying to implement the cit. i could of been an obstruction to this and tried very hard not to implement the memphis model. i understand the theory that we want the memphis model up and running. what i am asking is a proposal to go back and research not only the taser, but any less lethal options in the law enforcement community today. i am being told there are lasers? you can flash and disorient people that have weapons. that is my request, to be able to go up there and research all less lethal options that are out there, plus obviously the taser. that is what i am asking for. like i said before, i have an obligation to the men and women of this department to give them another -- i know people hate to hear the term "tool in the toolbox." as far as the scenario today with the knife -- the suspect could have a broken bottle or a

i want to thank the commissioners, chief godown, and especially the community and the gentleman from memphis for coming out and taking such a serious look at a very real crisis situation facing our community. i want to focus on a few points. the resolution at hant hand, crisis intervention training is a necessary component of addressing police interest action with -- interaction with people with mental health. however, there are a few things that really need to be looked at. one in particular, i notice there were sections of it emphasized what to do when interacting with a person that had a blated object and that seemed to leave a huge loophole open. what if it is a blunted object, does that give officers an excuse to shoot at that point? what if it is a gun? so loopholes like this need to be looked seriously at. also, i want to say that i recommend that you check out the beautiful people out here that work with these communities every day. because these people have resources of their own and have special expertise and should be consulted. >> hi, my name is lydia. i'm a single mom li

. >> commissioner, chief godown, i want to thank you for having me with you tonight. i'm the deputy public defender assigned to behavioral health court. i'm also one of the people who was responsible for creating that program. i represent on average about 100 to 125 people at a time who have a serious mental illness and are in the criminal justice system. most of my clients, 80% or more are charged with a felony. 75% of my clibets clients have -- 75% of my clients have a diagnosis of skits freenia. -- skits frenchia. behavioral health court, this problem has been left in the hands of a system that was not designed to deal with it. in behavioral health court i have to say proudly we have done a pretty good job. we have great outcome data that show that we are reducing recidivism dramatically. we are reducing rearrests after crimes of violence by about 54%. we're reducing jail days on average from 36 to 40 days for clients as compared to a control group, and we are saving the city and county $2.7 million a year just in both criminal justice and mental health dollars. th

interim sfpd chief jeff godown says the department will study the taser issue and present its findings to the commission in 90 days. 7 07 a.m., alive look at the bay bridge as we go. showers in the area in advance of much more rain expected later this afternoon. more in a moment. >> james: quick look at your 74 test feared the possibility for los no tomorrow and saturday. more and mother in a moment. new store this morning more recalls for toyota. toyota motor is recalling 2.17 million toyota and lexus vehicles sold in the u.s. for carpet and floor mat flaws that could interfere with the gas pedal, the company's biggest such announcement in a year. the recall includes 769,000 highlanders, highlander hybrids, and lexus rx330s, rx350s and rx400hs sport-utility vehicles, with model years ranging from 2004 to 2007, toyota said today in a statement. the car maker is also expanding its november 2009 recall of suvs to fix floor mats that could shift out of position and jam the accelerator to include 1.38 million more vehicles. general motors posted a $510 million profit in the fourth quarter

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i also want to make sure that we think chief godown, the mental health stakeholders, and the department of public health, the mental health board, and the coalition on homelessness. i am sure i am leaving out a few amazing people that helped in this effort. in particular, and joyce hicks from the -- going into the model, the commission finance the about the last week, it is called the crisis intervention teams. it is an innovative first responder model of police-based police-based intervention with police and attkisson partnerships. developed by the memphis police department in 1988, the memphis model is recognized as the best breakfast by the u.s. department of justice and also by the u.s. department of health and human services. in addition to the partnership among law enforcement, mental health providers, and community advocates, the memphis model relies on specially trained cit officers, while continuing their duty as regular officers in their district, there also dispatched as first responders to mental health calls. a good parallel would be the swat team, gang task force. this is